megamantaray Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 For a while now, I'm not exactly sure when honestly, but I've been tackling this for a good 2 weeks at least. Anyway, I've had this issue where I crash when I'm in the overworld. I'm on MO and until this began I was playing through the game flawlessly and was honestly really impressed and happy I came back to it then this began to happen. Things I've tried: 1 - Reinstalling every single one of my mods from scratch both Nexus ones and LL ones I have [Load Order Below] 2 - Reinstalling SSE from scratch, SKSE, and other executables through MO. 3 - Extensive crash testing disabling all my mods in groups and making a new character to see when they crash, made like 100 characters at this point, results completely inconclusive because it's so inconsistent when it happens, it always does happen though. Using the "Camping in the Woods" start from Alternate Start I let my mods set up in the cell and use the bed, once I'm in the overworld it'll usually take from 1 to 3 minutes and the game will inexplicably crash, with no warning or seemingly any trigger, sometimes coincidental things will seem to make the game crash, like Alduin flying overhead, but that doesn't always do it and given everything else being so inconsistent I find it hard to believe that fatso giving his wings a flap is what's causing this. I can do the same with vanilla save files I downloaded to test, I coc myself to PinewatchExterior after my mods set up and crash after taking a few steps, I've done most of my testing there because it's where it's most common. 4 - Cleaned my .ini files, used BethINI to set them up with their recommendations thinking maybe I messed up there somehow but nah still crash. I don't know what else to do at this point, sometimes when I disable enough mods it seems to not want to crash, I've narrowed it down to just a single mod and then it ends up crashing again once I delete that mod. Only seems to not crash when I play fully Vanilla, that is, with Alternate Start just run around and do things it doesn't crash but I'm not sure if even that's true because like I said sometimes it takes a while for the game to crash. Usually it comes down to a Sexlab mod though, in fact most of the time it does but I was very careful installing every SexLab mod I have and again I reinstalled every single mod ever just today too. I should note that it's only in outdoor areas though, indoors the game is perfect and from what I recall on an older character I deleted thinking this was a save issue the game worked fine in Solstheim as well but maybe I was getting lucky. 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I've done all I know short of reinstalling Mod Organiser itself after purging literally everything. Any help would be greatly appreciated, this is depressing the fuck outta me cos I was thinking this version of Skyrim wouldn't break on me inexplicably and make me quit but here we are. Edit: Apparently if I install every mod except my SexLab mods and then install those once everything else is set up I don't seem to crash anymore... ??? I ran around with yet another test character, this time I activated every mod except the Sexlab/SoS-related ones, saved once I was outside and ran around a bit without crashing, then quit the game and activated the SexLab mods... no crash for a few minutes. Hnnnnn- Well, I'll try this on a new new character and see how it goes but if someone knows what's going on solving the problem would be ideal instead of.. this. Edit 2: Well that didn't work very well, it's definitely a SexLab mod causing this though. I wish I knew which or how but it's so inconsistent I can't, and when I disable one to test it while it's gone the game just tells me my save file is corrupted and doesn't let me play at all to see what's going on.
Fotogen Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 Personaly I had lots of problems with CreatureFramework and related mods. Not the framework itself, but creature skeleton/mesh. Framework is suppose to swap creature mesh so they sometimes have a schlong and sometimes not. Problem is if creature mesh or skeleton is corrupted/broken or "old" LE version. You can get "invisible", "triangle" or just old fasion CTD
megamantaray Posted September 1, 2019 Author Posted September 1, 2019 I didn't do anything different but now I'm not crashing on a new character... Okay Skyrim, you're giving Dracula's Castle a run for its money with this "creature of chaos" BS. Whatever, I'll take it. Edit: And it's crashing again. This is some quantum mechanics bullshit with cosmic rays or hitting my PC or something.
megamantaray Posted September 1, 2019 Author Posted September 1, 2019 For some reason the male test character I made REFUSES to crash now even though others did before but under the same circumstances the female one always does. I'm gonna have to make a female one and go through this whole process again and see at what point things break. I've now been debugging this game more longer I have been playing it. Edit: Tried uninstalling and reinstalling every mod one by one and the game still crashes. I don't know what else I could possibly do. I guess I'm reinstalling Mod Organiser because it's the only thing I haven't done.
megamantaray Posted September 2, 2019 Author Posted September 2, 2019 Not gonna get my hopes up but I think properly uninstalling Sexlab Adventures SE might've fixed it?????? My testing area didn't crash at least, after a few attempts. True randomness, which this certainly is, means I could've had a lucky streak but I hope it's fixed and I'm way too tired. Sorry for triple posting on my own thread but maybe someone can use this like a survivor's journal in the future and it might help. Blech. Time time to die fap and sleep. I can confirm if this is unfucked or not tomorrow, I tested it several times and didn't explode so I'm hoping.
megamantaray Posted September 4, 2019 Author Posted September 4, 2019 Yeah, no it's still crashing. I really did just get lucky all those times. Fuck. Well, I'm done I guess.
megamantaray Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 So far it looks like if I don't crash immediately loading into the game, like, 15 seconds in, then I won't crash until the next time I load an outside cell which is also random. I can't figure this out, none of my mods consistently cause this, the closest I've gotten turned out to be a false positive because it's so inconsistent. The only actually consistent piece of data I have is that if I don't have SexLab installed AT ALL I'll never crash, maybe it's loading too many animations/mods from SexLab. Maybe it's too many cloak spells running for SexLab stuff? I don't know and I don't know enough to really determine something like that. I think I'm gonna stop posting here and deal with it, I just gotta quicksave more often I guess. I also don't wanna drop the lewd mods because they're the main reason I began playing again. Oh well.
past79 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Always hard to tell with random crashes like that. Try to get a crashdump, might give you a clue. Easiest way is to add the following to your skse.ini [Debug] WriteMiniDumps=1 Then you should get a "Crashdumps" folder where your skse logs are stored the next time your game crashes. You'll also need a program to view the dumps, "WinDbg Preview" worked well for me. Also, you might want to check your Papyrus.0.log, make sure you have bEnableLogging=1 and bEnableTrace=1 in the [Papyrus] section of your skyrim.ini. Especially the last couple of lines can give you a hint what the game was up to before it crashed, even if they do not directly show an error. On 9/1/2019 at 8:21 AM, Fotogen said: Personaly I had lots of problems with CreatureFramework and related mods. Second that, also did a (nearly) complete reinstall of my mods a few weeks back and my game kept crashing almost at exactly the same location in the first dungeon. Turned out to be the spiders that caused my problems. Brrr...spiders. I hate them. ? (You don't need to uninstall, just disable all the types in CF's MCM menu, if your game stops crashing you can start narrowing it down by re-enabling them)
megamantaray Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, past79 said: Always hard to tell with random crashes like that. Try to get a crashdump, might give you a clue. Easiest way is to add the following to your skse.ini [Debug] WriteMiniDumps=1 Then you should get a "Crashdumps" folder where your skse logs are stored the next time your game crashes. You'll also need a program to view the dumps, "WinDbg Preview" worked well for me. Also, you might want to check your Papyrus.0.log, make sure you have bEnableLogging=1 and bEnableTrace=1 in the [Papyrus] section of your skyrim.ini. Especially the last couple of lines can give you a hint what the game was up to before it crashed, even if they do not directly show an error. Second that, also did a (nearly) complete reinstall of my mods a few weeks back and my game kept crashing almost at exactly the same location in the first dungeon. Turned out to be the spiders that caused my problems. Brrr...spiders. I hate them. ? (You don't need to uninstall, just disable all the types in CF's MCM menu, if your game stops crashing you can start narrowing it down by re-enabling them) That line in my skse.ini doesn't seem to do anything. No .dmps are being generated either in the MO folders or in My Games. I'll re-enable papyrus logging and see if it helps me see anything but it never did before. Maybe it's CF, I'll try anything at this point.
megamantaray Posted September 6, 2019 Author Posted September 6, 2019 Because of how inconsistent it's been to this point I'm not getting my hopes up but the papyrus logs lead me to believe the game was crashing trying to give Elk and Deer their SoS from AnimalSOS. So I changed the schlong type they get and I don't seem to be crashing so far. Again, not getting my hopes up but maybe that's it? Eh...
megamantaray Posted September 7, 2019 Author Posted September 7, 2019 I may have figured it out..... again(???). I had Animal SOS loaded after XPMSE because Terumi(GroovTama) is very intense about it being last for everything. The SE page for Animal SOS doesn't say it but the original says XPMSE overwrites animal skeletons, which can cause crashes and overall weirdness with animals. I stepped outside after reordering those a bit a few times and Skyrim didn't explode so here's hoping. At this point this thread is just spam but again it's like a survival journal, one day an adventurer will wander into my body and find these weird scribblings and maybe learn something. Or die like I did.
psychochild Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 10:32 PM, megamantaray said: Edit: Apparently if I install every mod except my SexLab mods and then install those once everything else is set up I don't seem to crash anymore... ??? I ran around with yet another test character, this time I activated every mod except the Sexlab/SoS-related ones, saved once I was outside and ran around a bit without crashing, then quit the game and activated the SexLab mods... no crash for a few minutes. Hnnnnn- Well, I'll try this on a new new character and see how it goes but if someone knows what's going on solving the problem would be ideal instead of.. this. Edit 2: Well that didn't work very well, it's definitely a SexLab mod causing this though. I wish I knew which or how but it's so inconsistent I can't, and when I disable one to test it while it's gone the game just tells me my save file is corrupted and doesn't let me play at all to see what's going on. I have...opinions about using LOOT to do load order because it makes mistakes in my opinion, but aside from that - I suspect your culprit is having BDHoodies and SOS at the same time as well as if you have Animal SOS load after XPMSSE which is a no no. If I'm right this would make you crash every time you run into a creature or male character pretty much - which also could be random. Try fixing that and if still no - I can give you some suggestions about how to order your mod list.
megamantaray Posted September 8, 2019 Author Posted September 8, 2019 4 hours ago, psychochild said: I have...opinions about using LOOT to do load order because it makes mistakes in my opinion, but aside from that - I suspect your culprit is having BDHoodies and SOS at the same time as well as if you have Animal SOS load after XPMSSE which is a no no. If I'm right this would make you crash every time you run into a creature or male character pretty much - which also could be random. Try fixing that and if still no - I can give you some suggestions about how to order your mod list. Yeah it's basically fixed now, no crashes since putting XPMSE before the animal skeleton replacing mods besides one I induced but it was going ham during the Whiterun fight. Basically solved I think.
TheBatDad1989 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 I've been having similar issues for a long long time like this actually. I too had to end up changing the spiders from animalsos to MNC, I'm still getting the occasional freeze (every 30 minutes or so) when loading up animals in the wild though and I have XPMSE loading before animalsos and ABC (and its patch). By loading XPMSE afterwards do you mean the esp but not the package? All the instructions on the ASOS and ABC pages say to over-write the XPMSE skeletons with the skeletons included in their packages.
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