pdw1 Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Whenever I crouch, my character's belly (more precisely, the navel) doesn't move with my character and causes it to go into the chest as shown in the pictures: Load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 7 7 EFFCore.esm 8 8 RaceCompatibility.esm 9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 10 a Havok Breast Physic.esm 11 b hdtHighHeel.esm 12 c guard dialogue overhaul.esp 13 d EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 14 e Distinct Skyrim Landscapes.esp 15 f ELFX - Exteriors.esp 16 10 GodRoom.esp 17 11 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 18 12 prometheus_no_snow_under_the_roof.esp 19 13 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 20 14 allmarkersvisible_en.esp 21 15 OBIS.esp 22 16 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp 23 17 Immersive Encounters.esp 24 18 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 25 19 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 26 1a CZHCAD.esp 27 1b Colorful_Magic.esp 28 1c better_fast_travel.esp 29 1d Size Does Matter.esp 30 1e cherrywoodenchanter-replacer.esp 31 1f teleport.esp 32 20 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 33 21 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp 34 22 dungeonquestawareness.esp 35 23 dynamic fires.esp 36 24 ssapbwk.esp 37 25 enchantingsupplies.esp 38 26 getdrunk.esp 39 27 Yggdrasil Music.esp 40 28 ImprovedCombatMusic.esp 41 29 killarrows.esp 42 2a lockpickpro.esp 43 2b milkywaygalaxy.esp 44 2c more guards.esp 45 2d private_nokillblur_test.esp 46 2e ragdollspell.esp 47 2f rbes enhanced 1st person camera bob - standard.esp 48 30 realistic piercing arrows.esp 49 31 ringofguile.esp 50 32 RobloxDeathSound.esp 51 33 SlowtimeSlower.esp 52 34 Socially Alert Guards (Guard Dialogue Tweaks).esp 53 35 stoneoflearning.esp 54 36 SuperUnrelentingForce.esp 55 37 timering.esp 56 38 unlimited shouts.esp 57 39 unreadbooksglow.esp 58 3a XPMSE.esp 59 3b 12FemaleBrows.esp 60 3c [COCO]CheongSan_full.esp 61 3d Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 62 3e KS Hairdo's.esp 63 3f FNIS.esp 64 40 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp 65 41 Lieyes_v1.0.esp 66 42 SkyUI.esp 67 43 SGEyebrows.esp 68 44 UIExtensions.esp 69 45 iHUD.esp 70 46 TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp 71 47 FacelightPlus.esp 72 48 PerkPointsMaster_v1_2.esp 73 49 Skill Config.esp 74 4a Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp 75 4b TweakRim.esp 76 4c Proper Aiming.esp 77 4d Immersive Weapons.esp 78 4e aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 79 4f faster_daggers.esp 80 50 WondersofWeather.esp 81 51 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 82 52 EFFDialogue.esp 83 53 Sweeping Twohanders lite.esp 84 54 Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp 85 55 Supreme Miraak.esp 86 56 LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp 87 57 VioLens.esp 88 58 lilithssickle.esp 89 59 Scottish Claymore.esp 90 5a Golden Rings Of Craft.esp 91 5b dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 92 5c dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 93 5d dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp 94 5e ScopedBows.esp 95 5f ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp 96 60 ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp 97 61 natsuno.esp 98 62 Light Elven Armor.esp 99 63 Lucien.esp 100 64 Follower Onean.esp 101 65 darkknightarmor.esp 102 66 sulundo.esp 103 67 BB Pack by Team TAL.esp 104 68 AddItemMenuLE.esp 105 69 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 106 6a Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 107 6b EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 108 6c Hermit.esp 109 6d FireBurns.esp 110 6e HavenBag.esp 111 6f IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 112 70 OBISDB.esp 113 71 FISS.esp 114 72 Insignificant Object Remover.esp 115 73 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp 116 74 RevampedExteriorFog.esp 117 75 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 118 76 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 119 77 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp 120 78 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp 121 79 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 122 7a Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 123 7b TrueStorms.esp 124 7c TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp 125 7d Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 126 7e Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp 127 7f Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp 128 80 Havok Breast Physic.esp Mods in question (by my judgement): FNIS UNPB BLESSED BODY XPMSE Bodyslide and Outfit Studio HDT Physics Extensions HDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 Required XML Kit HDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 BM2 Regular TBBP Only HDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 Havok Object I've had this problem for a very long time and I have tried just about everything I could think of: I reinstalled and updated all my body mods many times, ran LOOT many many times, tried different presets on bodyslide, tried every combination of install order and which mod overwrites which on mod organizer 2, generated FNIS, reinstalled skyrim and everything else on a completely new, higher end pc while following STEP closely. Even though I've been modding my skyrim for over 4 years, i'm still a noob at stuff... I can't think of anything else except coming here for help. EDIT: The problem has finally been fixed thanks your suggestions.
kevin33 Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Have you tried removing the havok breast physic esps? if youre using cbbe hdt body, you dont need them since it already has breast and butt physics, as well as belly scaling, they may have a conflict. Edit: whoops, i forgot to open the fourth spoiler. well, but you should still try to fully uninstall these:HDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 Required XML KitHDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 BM2 Regular TBBP OnlyHDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 Havok Object try this (if you havvent already) on a new game after you uninstalled them and reconfigured your bodyslide preset to the equivalent of CBBE HDT BODY (ive never used UUNP so i dont know the exact name)
pdw1 Posted June 24, 2019 Author Posted June 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, kevin33 said: Have you tried removing the havok breast physic esps? if youre using cbbe hdt body, you dont need them since it already has breast and butt physics, as well as belly scaling, they may have a conflict. i use UNPB instead of CBBE but I will try that and see if it works Edit: It crashed
pdw1 Posted June 24, 2019 Author Posted June 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, kevin33 said: Have you tried removing the havok breast physic esps? if youre using cbbe hdt body, you dont need them since it already has breast and butt physics, as well as belly scaling, they may have a conflict. Edit: whoops, i forgot to open the fourth spoiler. well, but you should still try to fully uninstall these:HDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 Required XML KitHDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 BM2 Regular TBBP OnlyHDT Bounce and jiggles 8.0 Havok Object try this (if you havvent already) on a new game after you uninstalled them and reconfigured your bodyslide preset to the equivalent of CBBE HDT BODY (ive never used UUNP so i dont know the exact name) I've tried it and it still happens ;-;
Grey Cloud Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Two suggestions: 1. Make sure FNIS says Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)your skeleton has 115 bones. 2. If that fails get rid of Bounce n Jiggles and use something that doesn't require Havoc objects.
pdw1 Posted June 24, 2019 Author Posted June 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Two suggestions: 1. Make sure FNIS says Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)your skeleton has 115 bones. 2. If that fails get rid of Bounce n Jiggles and use something that doesn't require Havoc objects. I removed the bounce n jiggles and generated fnis but it comes out as only 99 bones for both male and female
Grey Cloud Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, pdw1 said: I removed the bounce n jiggles and generated fnis but it comes out as only 99 bones for both male and female Then reinstall the skellie and let it overwrite what it wants. Something has obviously overwritten it. B & J works it's just that havoc object is the old way of doing things.
pdw1 Posted June 24, 2019 Author Posted June 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Then reinstall the skellie and let it overwrite what it wants. Something has obviously overwritten it. B & J works it's just that havoc object is the old way of doing things. it still happens even when I followed what you said
Grey Cloud Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, pdw1 said: it still happens even when I followed what you said What still happens?
pdw1 Posted June 24, 2019 Author Posted June 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: What still happens? sorry i wasn't clear enough. I meant the 99 bones showing up instead of 115 bones when generating FNIS. although, I was able to fix the problem (which turned out to be rather simple in the end) after disabling everything except the body mods and switching which mod overwrites which. I appreciate the time you took to help me with this problem, thank you
kevin33 Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 1:02 AM, pdw1 said: sorry i wasn't clear enough. I meant the 99 bones showing up instead of 115 bones when generating FNIS. although, I was able to fix the problem (which turned out to be rather simple in the end) after disabling everything except the body mods and switching which mod overwrites which. I appreciate the time you took to help me with this problem, thank you glad that it is fixed by now. are you using mod organizer 2 or nexus mod manager?
pdw1 Posted June 27, 2019 Author Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, kevin33 said: glad that it is fixed by now. are you using mod organizer 2 or nexus mod manager? mod manager
Grey Cloud Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 9 hours ago, pdw1 said: mod manager They are all 'mod managers'.
pdw1 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Posted June 28, 2019 16 hours ago, pdw1 said: mod manager 7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: They are all 'mod managers'. whoops it was late at night. I meant mod organizer
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