Malakar Posted March 24, 2019 Posted March 24, 2019 I'm having an issue where sometimes certain cells crash. For example rorikstead keeps crashing, it doesn't crash on a new character though. Then some other cell kept crashing as well, waited 2 ingame days and suddenly it doesn't crash anymore. Inns worked fine before but now for some reason most inns crash upon entering. I wanted to check my papyrus logs but they for some reason don't generate. My last logs are from 2018, what folder are they supposed to be in? I'm gonna post you my load order, maybe you find something that looks suspicious to you. I don't know every incompatibility there is. I'm slowly trying to disable plugins to find out which is causing the crashes. That's not easy though because as I already said I'm not getting crashes on new characters thus disabling addons without making my older saves break is kinda tricky. https://modwat.ch/u/Malakar/plugins Edit: Another example, riverwood worked fine before. Went into the vuoksi playerhome, waited ~40 days (to be sure lol - accelerated that with tfc), leaving the home now into riverwood ctds the game. /: Edit 2: Okay wth, i managed to walk around riverwood for 5 seconds but 3 skeleton archers randomly spawned and after that the game crashed. WTH? Edit 3: Okay I must have a mod installed that spawns enemies on you because I just teleported to whiterun stables and could run around for like 10 seconds when suddenly 3 mammoths spawned on me and seconds after that the game crashed. Wat. Edit 4: Ported to markarth stables, chief borguk and some other orcs spawned on me, used console to killall but the game still crashed afterwards. This is getting weird.
GenioMaestro Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Malakar said: I'm having an issue where sometimes certain cells crash. For example rorikstead keeps crashing, it doesn't crash on a new character though. Then some other cell kept crashing as well, waited 2 ingame days and suddenly it doesn't crash anymore. Inns worked fine before but now for some reason most inns crash upon entering. You are ussing SE and that is support for LE. I request a moderator move the post. As you have SE you can not have any memory problem and yours CTD must be caused by one of the 680 mods that you have. With yours test and yours explanations i presume a problem in one of the mods that generate creatures but seems that all are SE version and i doubt a mod for SE can cause CTD in SE. Probably your problem is caused by your horrendous Load Order----> RUN LOOT--->NOW For example, *Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp is in position 68 and must be one of the last five mods. Simply, RUN LOOT and report if the problem is solved. Aditionally, a papyrus log is totally unusefull for locate the cause of the CTD because is a BUFFERED file. The las lines of the log with the information about the CTD are never writen to the log. Not worry about the papyrus log when you have a CTD.
Malakar Posted March 25, 2019 Author Posted March 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: You are ussing SE and that is support for LE. I request a moderator move the post. Oh crap I derped there. I'm sorry about that. I actually ran LOOT several times, that is the load order that LOOT generated for me. And that 680 mods number is a bit bloated. Most of them are texture mods that themselves consist of several parts, patches etc.
GenioMaestro Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, Malakar said: Oh crap I derped there. I'm sorry about that. I actually ran LOOT several times, that is the load order that LOOT generated for me. Not worry, everyone can have a mistake and only a moderator can move the post. But that load order is totally incorrect. You must run LOOT incorrectly or in the wrong file or in the wrong folder. That loading order is pathetic. Alternate Start has priority 70 and ELFXEnhancer has priority 75. It MUST be in the last positions of the load order. Spoiler Maybe that loading order is not the REAL loading order used by the game. I guess you have MO. Go to the folder where you have the profile of MO, in my machine is in D:\Games\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default, and look at the files loadorder.txt and plugins.txt because if they have the same thing that you have published in modwat you have to fix it. If you are using that loading order published in modwat you have a lot of problems in the game.
Malakar Posted March 25, 2019 Author Posted March 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: But that load order is totally incorrect. You must run LOOT incorrectly or in the wrong file or in the wrong folder. That loading order is pathetic. Alternate Start has priority 70 and ELFXEnhancer has priority 75. It MUST be in the last positions of the load order Reveal hidden contents I used the integrated sort feature inside MO this time instead of launching loot from inside MO. I updated modwatch but the game still keeps crashing.
GenioMaestro Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 36 minutes ago, Malakar said: I used the integrated sort feature inside MO this time instead of launching loot from inside MO. I updated modwatch but the game still keeps crashing. Look better. Has been moved to position 245 and 248 and the real position removing disabled is 206 and 209. As you change the load order is recomended, maybe necesary, regenerate your Bashed Patch. I'm not sure because i not use Wrye Bash. Seems that you have a problem in the configuration of LOOT inside MO. Revise it. Probably, your CTD is caused by SexLab More Creatures SE because REQUIRE Hentai Creatures SE and you not have it in your load order or mod list. Remove SexLab More Creatures or reinstall More Nasty Critters Special Edition 11.4C and enable Hentai Creatures. If the CTD persist can be a skeleton problem. Move your +XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - Cleanup Profile from position 235 to 682. XPMSE is the main base skeleton for the game and MUST be in the last positions of the mod list. XPMSE must overwrite the skeleton files from any other mod and NONE mod can overwrite XPMSE until the web page of the mod say it very clear in a concrete and concise way.
Malakar Posted March 25, 2019 Author Posted March 25, 2019 Installed hentai creatures, changed the load order to MNC Hentai Creatures More Creatures The game is still crashing. I then moved the XP32 Skeleton down to position 682. It's weird, It doesnt CTD immediately when I go outside. I can run around for several seconds and then it ctds. I saw messages on the top right "Player in new location" "Carrier Sent" .... maybe that has something to do with the ctd? I just added and added to the LO over the last year. It's probably time for me to redo it from scratch, think about which mod can go and stuff.
GenioMaestro Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Malakar said: I then moved the XP32 Skeleton down to position 682. It's weird, It doesnt CTD immediately when I go outside. I can run around for several seconds and then it ctds. I saw messages on the top right "Player in new location" "Carrier Sent" .... maybe that has something to do with the ctd? That message has none relation. Come from Captured Dreams. You have SE and the only posibility for have CTD is a bad mesh or a bad DLL. Revise the versions of the mods, verifi that ALL yours mods are for SE. If you not see any bad remove mods until locate the problematic mod.
Malakar Posted March 31, 2019 Author Posted March 31, 2019 I found the mod that was causing the crash. It was indeed Captured Dreams. Starting from a certain point in the playthrough the game would crash whenever I approached a town / city. I'm guessing the Courier delivering the captured dreams ad was causing the crash.
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