pinkink Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Hi guys, I'm trying my luck here as well as in the Nexus because I'm honestly lost already and maybe here a competent modder can put a finger on the problem I'm having. I'm experiencing frequent CTD's when getting into Inventory/Magic/Looting/shopping menus. This doesn't happen all the time, sometimes it takes some time or a number of times entering menus before it decides to CTD, and sometimes it happens on the first time I try accessing the inventory after starting up the game. I did notice that sometimes, before CTDing, it looks like a broken 3D model topography (screenshot below). This started happening right after finishing the opening scene in Helgen. I exited the cave, walked for 50 meters, quicksaved and activated all the mods I needed, so the save can't be corrupt. Meanwhile, I tried: -Deactivating all my mods and adding them back in, one by one (Couldn't find the culprit because the CTD's are not consistent and are unpredictable). -Reloading a previous save that didn't CTD and then trying to add mods one-by-one. Made CTD's a bit less frequent but still the game is near-unplayable. -Installing SafetyLoad -Implementing the 4GB patch. -Deactivating ENB (Still happens). -Cleaning my mods and masters using TES5Edit. -Uncleaning Update.esm (I'm given to understand it's not supposed to be cleaned?) -Sorting the load order with LOOT after deactivating/reactivating every mod. -Implementing a bashed patch using Wyre Bash. -Reconfiguring enblocal.ini as S.T.E.P suggests (Even though the problem happens even without ENB on). None of these seem to work. My load order (After reinstalling all my mods): Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 7 7 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm 9 9 AOM.esm 10 a ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp 12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp 13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp 14 e Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 15 f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 16 10 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 17 11 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 18 12 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 19 13 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 20 14 SkyUI.esp 21 15 iHUD.esp 22 16 iActivate.esp 23 17 RaceMenu.esp 24 18 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 25 19 UIExtensions.esp 26 1a AH Hotkeys.esp 27 1b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 28 1c Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp 29 1d ELFX - Exteriors.esp 30 1e 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp 31 1f Brows.esp 32 20 WetandCold.esp 33 21 Beards.esp 34 22 XPMSE.esp 35 23 SOSRaceMenu.esp 36 24 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 37 25 BHWarPaints.esp 38 26 Maevan2EyeBrows.esp 39 27 KS Hairdo's.esp 40 28 SC_Mouth.esp 41 29 Vivid Landscapes.esp 42 2a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp 43 2b ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 44 2c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 45 2d WetandCold - Ashes.esp 46 2e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 47 2f FNIS.esp 48 30 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 49 31 Savage Wolves - Fox Fix.esp 50 32 Skysan_Icicle.esp 51 33 ZaitamasAncientShroudedArmor.esp 52 34 TKDodge.esp 53 35 Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp 54 36 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp 55 37 LostGrimoire.esp 56 38 AOS.esp 57 39 Combat Evolved.esp 58 3a Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 59 3b DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 60 3c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 61 3d dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 62 3e dD-Medium Script Range.esp 63 3f MagicArmorVisuals.esp 64 40 TrueStorms.esp 65 41 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp 66 42 UltimateCombat.esp 67 43 3DNPC.esp 68 44 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 69 45 ETaC - Falkreath.esp 70 46 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 71 47 DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp 72 48 ETaC - Dawnstar.esp 73 49 ETaC - Riverwood.esp 74 4a Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 75 4b ETaC - Morthal.esp 76 4c ETaC - Rorikstead.esp 77 4d SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 78 4e ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp 79 4f OBIS.esp 80 50 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 81 51 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 82 52 Immersive Weapons.esp 83 53 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 84 54 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 85 55 Unique Uniques.esp 86 56 Bijin NPCs.esp 87 57 ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp 88 58 ETaC - Ivarstead.esp 89 59 Bijin Wives.esp 90 5a Bijin Warmaidens.esp 91 5b 3PCOFull.esp 92 5c Ragged Trousers and Top - 2 piece.esp 93 5d TradeBarter.esp 94 5e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 95 5f NB-Scars.esp 96 60 Headtracking.esp 97 61 OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp 98 62 EnchantedArsenal.esp 99 63 PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp 100 64 AOM.esp 101 65 Immersive Whiterun.esp 102 66 ETaC - Winterhold.esp 103 67 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp 104 68 ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp 105 69 Immersive Solstheim.esp 106 6a ETaC - Karthwasten.esp 107 6b Immersive Stonehills.esp 108 6c ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp 109 6d ArcheryDummyXP.esp 110 6e Inconsequential NPCs.esp 111 6f SpellResearch.esp 112 70 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 113 71 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 114 72 Immersive Shors Stone.esp 115 73 The Honored Dead.esp 116 74 fallentreebridges.esp 117 75 Immersive Patrols II.esp 118 76 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 119 77 skycity3.esp 120 78 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 121 79 Missives.esp 122 7a Immersive Music Temples.esp 123 7b Immersive Music.esp 124 7c PCE - SPO Patch.esp 125 7d PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp 126 7e PCE - Inconsequential NPCs Patch.esp 127 7f Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 128 80 ISC CCF Patch.esp 129 81 ISC WAFR Patch.esp 130 82 VioLens.esp 131 83 SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp 132 84 SolitudeTempleFrescoesExpanded.esp 133 85 OBISDB.esp 134 86 ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp 135 87 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 136 88 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 137 89 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp 138 8a ISC DeadlySpellImpacts Patch.esp 139 8b AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp 140 8c AOS2_CoTWP Patch.esp 141 8d AOS2_WAF Patch.esp 142 8e AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp 143 8f DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 144 90 DIVERSE SKYRIM - Immersive Patrols Patch.esp 145 91 Footprints.esp 146 92 Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp 147 93 PCE - Art of Magicka Patch.esp 148 94 PCE - USLEEP Patch.esp 149 95 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 150 96 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 151 97 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 152 98 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 153 99 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 154 9a RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 155 9b AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 156 9c PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp 157 9d ELFXEnhancer.esp 158 9e Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 159 9f PCE - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp 160 a0 ASIS-Dependency.esp 161 a1 ASIS.esp 162 a2 Bashed Patch, 0.esp My PC specs are: Intel i7-3370 CPU @ 3.40GHz 16 GB RAM Skyrim is installed on a 1TB HDD (Not SSD, I know it sucks but it just makes the load times longer). nVidia GTX 670 2GB Windows 10 Pro x64 This is what it sometimes looks like before opening the menu again and CTDing: [/IMG] Thanks to whoever tries helping! EDIT: The issue is solved. For whoever else having this problem: After a LOT of research and screwing around, the answer was the Safety Load, which seems to not work well with SkyUI. I had to remove it and instead install SSME - Skyrim Startup Memory Editor. Here's the link: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/ Hopefully this helps.
crplivion Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 im no expert.maybe try lightining up some of the redundant mods.mods that are doing the same thing.lots of climates tamriel,lots of changes to skyrim,and realwater.maybe checkout the recomended screen resolution of your monitor outside of skyrim. i had troubles awhile back cuz i was running amd apu with 1 gig vram.when i checke.i of coarse had it on 1080,and set it to recomended 1362x768. that was a big help. allso seems redundant is maybe imersive patrolls and nonseqential npc.s. just thoughts,ive read here to try to to keep lots of mods from trying to do the same thing.anyway goodluck
Psalam Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Spoiler 1 hour ago, pinkink said: Hi guys, I'm trying my luck here as well as in the Nexus because I'm honestly lost already and maybe here a competent modder can put a finger on the problem I'm having. I'm experiencing frequent CTD's when getting into Inventory/Magic/Looting/shopping menus. This doesn't happen all the time, sometimes it takes some time or a number of times entering menus before it decides to CTD, and sometimes it happens on the first time I try accessing the inventory after starting up the game. I did notice that sometimes, before CTDing, it looks like a broken 3D model topography (screenshot below). This started happening right after finishing the opening scene in Helgen. I exited the cave, walked for 50 meters, quicksaved and activated all the mods I needed, so the save can't be corrupt. Meanwhile, I tried: -Deactivating all my mods and adding them back in, one by one (Couldn't find the culprit because the CTD's are not consistent and are unpredictable). -Reloading a previous save that didn't CTD and then trying to add mods one-by-one. Made CTD's a bit less frequent but still the game is near-unplayable. -Installing SafetyLoad -Implementing the 4GB patch. -Deactivating ENB (Still happens). -Cleaning my mods and masters using TES5Edit. -Uncleaning Update.esm (I'm given to understand it's not supposed to be cleaned?) -Sorting the load order with LOOT after deactivating/reactivating every mod. -Implementing a bashed patch using Wyre Bash. -Reconfiguring enblocal.ini as S.T.E.P suggests (Even though the problem happens even without ENB on). None of these seem to work. My load order (After reinstalling all my mods): Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 7 7 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm 9 9 AOM.esm 10 a ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp 12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp 13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp 14 e Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 15 f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 16 10 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 17 11 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 18 12 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 19 13 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 20 14 SkyUI.esp 21 15 iHUD.esp 22 16 iActivate.esp 23 17 RaceMenu.esp 24 18 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 25 19 UIExtensions.esp 26 1a AH Hotkeys.esp 27 1b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 28 1c Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp 29 1d ELFX - Exteriors.esp 30 1e 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp 31 1f Brows.esp 32 20 WetandCold.esp 33 21 Beards.esp 34 22 XPMSE.esp 35 23 SOSRaceMenu.esp 36 24 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 37 25 BHWarPaints.esp 38 26 Maevan2EyeBrows.esp 39 27 KS Hairdo's.esp 40 28 SC_Mouth.esp 41 29 Vivid Landscapes.esp 42 2a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp 43 2b ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 44 2c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 45 2d WetandCold - Ashes.esp 46 2e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 47 2f FNIS.esp 48 30 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 49 31 Savage Wolves - Fox Fix.esp 50 32 Skysan_Icicle.esp 51 33 ZaitamasAncientShroudedArmor.esp 52 34 TKDodge.esp 53 35 Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp 54 36 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp 55 37 LostGrimoire.esp 56 38 AOS.esp 57 39 Combat Evolved.esp 58 3a Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 59 3b DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 60 3c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 61 3d dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 62 3e dD-Medium Script Range.esp 63 3f MagicArmorVisuals.esp 64 40 TrueStorms.esp 65 41 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp 66 42 UltimateCombat.esp 67 43 3DNPC.esp 68 44 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 69 45 ETaC - Falkreath.esp 70 46 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 71 47 DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp 72 48 ETaC - Dawnstar.esp 73 49 ETaC - Riverwood.esp 74 4a Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 75 4b ETaC - Morthal.esp 76 4c ETaC - Rorikstead.esp 77 4d SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 78 4e ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp 79 4f OBIS.esp 80 50 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 81 51 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 82 52 Immersive Weapons.esp 83 53 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 84 54 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 85 55 Unique Uniques.esp 86 56 Bijin NPCs.esp 87 57 ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp 88 58 ETaC - Ivarstead.esp 89 59 Bijin Wives.esp 90 5a Bijin Warmaidens.esp 91 5b 3PCOFull.esp 92 5c Ragged Trousers and Top - 2 piece.esp 93 5d TradeBarter.esp 94 5e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 95 5f NB-Scars.esp 96 60 Headtracking.esp 97 61 OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp 98 62 EnchantedArsenal.esp 99 63 PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp 100 64 AOM.esp 101 65 Immersive Whiterun.esp 102 66 ETaC - Winterhold.esp 103 67 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp 104 68 ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp 105 69 Immersive Solstheim.esp 106 6a ETaC - Karthwasten.esp 107 6b Immersive Stonehills.esp 108 6c ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp 109 6d ArcheryDummyXP.esp 110 6e Inconsequential NPCs.esp 111 6f SpellResearch.esp 112 70 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 113 71 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 114 72 Immersive Shors Stone.esp 115 73 The Honored Dead.esp 116 74 fallentreebridges.esp 117 75 Immersive Patrols II.esp 118 76 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 119 77 skycity3.esp 120 78 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 121 79 Missives.esp 122 7a Immersive Music Temples.esp 123 7b Immersive Music.esp 124 7c PCE - SPO Patch.esp 125 7d PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp 126 7e PCE - Inconsequential NPCs Patch.esp 127 7f Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 128 80 ISC CCF Patch.esp 129 81 ISC WAFR Patch.esp 130 82 VioLens.esp 131 83 SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp 132 84 SolitudeTempleFrescoesExpanded.esp 133 85 OBISDB.esp 134 86 ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp 135 87 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 136 88 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 137 89 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp 138 8a ISC DeadlySpellImpacts Patch.esp 139 8b AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp 140 8c AOS2_CoTWP Patch.esp 141 8d AOS2_WAF Patch.esp 142 8e AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp 143 8f DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 144 90 DIVERSE SKYRIM - Immersive Patrols Patch.esp 145 91 Footprints.esp 146 92 Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp 147 93 PCE - Art of Magicka Patch.esp 148 94 PCE - USLEEP Patch.esp 149 95 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 150 96 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 151 97 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 152 98 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 153 99 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 154 9a RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 155 9b AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 156 9c PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp 157 9d ELFXEnhancer.esp 158 9e Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 159 9f PCE - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp 160 a0 ASIS-Dependency.esp 161 a1 ASIS.esp 162 a2 Bashed Patch, 0.esp My PC specs are: Intel i7-3370 CPU @ 3.40GHz 16 GB RAM Skyrim is installed on a 1TB HDD (Not SSD, I know it sucks but it just makes the load times longer). nVidia GTX 670 2GB Windows 10 Pro x64 This is what it sometimes looks like before opening the menu again and CTDing: [/IMG] Thanks to whoever tries helping! Let's start with basics. Do you have crash fixes and ENBoost (both available on Nexus) loaded? If not, get those and see if that fixes your problem. If so, a papyrus log might be helpful. If you don't know how to get a papyrus log you can do a Google search or you can find that information on my blog - the link is in my signature below.
pinkink Posted January 6, 2019 Author Posted January 6, 2019 SOLVED! After a LOT of research and screwing around, the answer was the Safety Load, which seems to not work well with SkyUI. I had to remove it and instead install SSME - Skyrim Startup Memory Editor. Here's the link: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/ Thank you to everybody that tried to help!
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