DredayAJO7 Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 Whenever I try using Devious Devices Equip I get the exact same scenario as mentioned in the title, I'm completely new to this so I would prefer not a huge paragraph explaining every single depth. Just a simple explanation of what to do would be very appreciated.
DredayAJO7 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, DredayAJO7 said: Whenever I try using Devious Devices Equip I get the exact same scenario as mentioned in the title, I'm completely new to this so I would prefer not a huge paragraph explaining every single depth. Just a simple explanation of what to do would be very appreciated. Also, arms stay in place as if there were no restraints behind my back at all. This whole process is very frustrating.
Holzfrau Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, DredayAJO7 said: Also, arms stay in place as if there were no restraints behind my back at all. This whole process is very frustrating. You mean the arms move like you're not restrained? Sounds like you need to run FNIS (for Users) to get the proper animations in-game.
DredayAJO7 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Holzfrau said: You mean the arms move like you're not restrained? Sounds like you need to run FNIS (for Users) to get the proper animations in-game. Always running bodyslide and FNIS, When FNIS is ran it says 3.7k animations were loaded and 1 warning.
Holzfrau Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, DredayAJO7 said: Always running bodyslide and FNIS, When FNIS is ran it says 3.7k animations were loaded and 1 warning. Well, it would be helpful if you provide more information on what you're seeing. It sounds like this is an armbinder issue, is the armbinder visible? Do you have issues with other devices that change animations, like hobble skirts? My guess is that something's gone wrong with your Devious Devices - Assets install, so you could try reinstalling that (along with rerunning BS and FNIS, of course).
DredayAJO7 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Holzfrau said: Well, it would be helpful if you provide more information on what you're seeing. It sounds like this is an armbinder issue, is the armbinder visible? Do you have issues with other devices that change animations, like hobble skirts? My guess is that something's gone wrong with your Devious Devices - Assets install, so you could try reinstalling that (along with rerunning BS and FNIS, of course). I can provide you with screenshots of my mods in NMM, If you'd like
DredayAJO7 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Holzfrau said: Well, it would be helpful if you provide more information on what you're seeing. It sounds like this is an armbinder issue, is the armbinder visible? Do you have issues with other devices that change animations, like hobble skirts? My guess is that something's gone wrong with your Devious Devices - Assets install, so you could try reinstalling that (along with rerunning BS and FNIS, of course). Also, It's wrist restraint issues
Holzfrau Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, DredayAJO7 said: Also, It's wrist restraint issues Is it only wrist restraints that you're having issues with? Are the other custom DD animations working, like bound combat? Also, I don't think there is any need to worry about your load order here.
DredayAJO7 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, Holzfrau said: Is it only wrist restraints that you're having issues with? Are the other custom DD animations working, like bound combat? Also, I don't think there is any need to worry about your load order here. Just wanted to be sure I wasn't working with two mods that are incompatible with each other. and It's hard to tell if bound combat works because the arms aren't behind my back in the first place. I can test other the armbinder if you'd like
Holzfrau Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, DredayAJO7 said: It's hard to tell if bound combat works because the arms aren't behind my back in the first place. It's actually not hard at all. Your character should be attacking with kicks if it's working. It's still sounding to me like your issue is coming from missing animations. I think those are in Devious Devices - Assets, so I would try reinstalling that.
DredayAJO7 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Holzfrau said: It's actually not hard at all. Your character should be attacking with kicks if it's working. It's still sounding to me like your issue is coming from missing animations. I think those are in Devious Devices - Assets, so I would try reinstalling that. Okay, will do that now. Again, if you need anymore depth to what I see on my end, I.E recordings or screenshots of my gameplay I can gladly provide. I'll let you know if reinstalling works, thanks.
DredayAJO7 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Holzfrau said: It's actually not hard at all. Your character should be attacking with kicks if it's working. It's still sounding to me like your issue is coming from missing animations. I think those are in Devious Devices - Assets, so I would try reinstalling that. No animation happened, the restraints were just on my wrists as well as my upper wrist / forearm being invisible.
SleepyJim Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 For the problem with bound animations, is it only happening with Devious Devices - Equip restraints, or also the ones from the core DD mods (Integration and Expansion)? There was a very public argument between the author of DD Equip and the maintainer of the framework mods DDa, DDi and DDx, revolving around the dropping of Zaz keywords. The result was that DD Equip was not updated to work with the current core devious mods. If you're trying to use it with DDi and DDx 4.0 or above its restraints likely will not function properly. (Unless this ended up being resolved.) If it is only the DD Equip restraints that don't work, you could try asking in its own support thread here. Also bear in mind that any devices from DD Assets do not bind you. Integration is the mod that applies scripts, locks and animations to devices. The ones from DDa itself shouldn't ever be equipped.
DredayAJO7 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SleepyJim said: For the problem with bound animations, is it only happening with Devious Devices - Equip restraints, or also the ones from the core DD mods (Integration and Expansion)? There was a very public argument between the author of DD Equip and the maintainer of the framework mods DDa, DDi and DDx, revolving around the dropping of Zaz keywords. The result was that DD Equip was not updated to work with the current core devious mods. If you're trying to use it with DDi and DDx 4.0 or above its restraints likely will not function properly. (Unless this ended up being resolved.) If it is only the DD Equip restraints that don't work, you could try asking in its own support thread here. Also bear in mind that any devices from DD Assets do not bind you. Integration is the mod that applies scripts, locks and animations to devices. The ones from DDa itself shouldn't ever be equipped. What would be a good way to test restraints right off the bat when joining my Skyrim world aside from DDe so I can be sure other restraints work?
SleepyJim Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, DredayAJO7 said: What would be a good way to test restraints right off the bat when joining my Skyrim world aside from DDe so I can be sure other restraints work? Probably install Add Item Menu. Select the item it gives you automatically and then take the spell book. Read the book then use the lesser power it teaches you to bring up a list of all your esms and esps. Selecting one of them opens up an inventory containing all of their items to pick from. Add any devices you want to test (not the ones from Assets) and try equipping them to see if they work.
DredayAJO7 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Posted December 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, SleepyJim said: Probably install Add Item Menu. Select the item it gives you automatically and then take the spell book. Read the book then use the lesser power it teaches you to bring up a list of all your esms and esps. Selecting one of them opens up an inventory containing all of their items to pick from. Add any devices you want to test (not the ones from Assets) and try equipping them to see if they work. Zaz's mod menu that gives you the option to bound yourself appears to be working, I guess maybe DDe was my problem all along considering that is all I used. Let me be sure with AddItemMenu and I'll let you know
DredayAJO7 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Posted December 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, SleepyJim said: Probably install Add Item Menu. Select the item it gives you automatically and then take the spell book. Read the book then use the lesser power it teaches you to bring up a list of all your esms and esps. Selecting one of them opens up an inventory containing all of their items to pick from. Add any devices you want to test (not the ones from Assets) and try equipping them to see if they work. Zbf rope restraints worked, as well as a tape gag and an armbinder. I truly think you found the solution to my problem. Now I can actually focus on installing more mods and enjoying my game, thanks so much
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