Claire17175 Posted September 27, 2018 Posted September 27, 2018 Hello, now I have a "clean" Skyrim without any errors in Mod Manager. But Game is crashing often by Fast Travelling, Entering some Houses, during some Animations and sometimes at Loading Menus. Crash Fixes v12 is telling: Stack full... crash_2018_09_27_16-50-05.txt May be too many Mods loading? Thank You for Help...
Psalam Posted September 27, 2018 Posted September 27, 2018 Spoiler 48 minutes ago, Claire17175 said: Hello, now I have a "clean" Skyrim without any errors in Mod Manager. But Game is crashing often by Fast Travelling, Entering some Houses, during some Animations and sometimes at Loading Menus. Crash Fixes v12 is telling: Stack full... crash_2018_09_27_16-50-05.txt May be too many Mods loading? Thank You for Help... If you think it may be due to too many mods (although it looks like stack dump) it would be beneficial if you would post your load order. Please ignore the following if you already know how to post your load order: Run LOOT. In the top right hand corner there is an icon that looks like 3 vertical dots or buttons. When you press on it there will be an option to copy your load order. Do so and paste it here (preferably in a spoiler box).
Claire17175 Posted September 27, 2018 Author Posted September 27, 2018 Here it is... Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm SexLabAroused.esm CreatureFramework.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm SkyrimChainBeasts.esm daymoyl.esm RidingStyles2.esm ITortureFramework.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm EFFCore.esm RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SkyUI.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp FNIS.esp MilkModNEW.esp SD Cages.esp Shout Like a Virgin.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancyB.esp SLAnimLoader.esp TaraOffsetBondagePack.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp KomAnimObjects.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp SexLabStopCombat.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp ForcedMilkMaid.esp SkyrimChainBeastsDB.esp JContainers-optional_installation_validator.esp SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp SexLabTools.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp HentaiCreatures.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp zzEstrus.esp EstrusChaurus.esp EstrusSpider.esp wristbinder.esp BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp Captured Dreams.esp Skyrim Unbound.esp animal_mansion.esp SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp AddItemMenuLE.esp TDF Aroused Rape.esp SLPleasure.esp SexLabDefeat.esp LoversVictim.esp LoversVictim_DogsnHorses.esp SexLabSquirt.esp non-devious devices.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp dD Enchanted Chests.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp EFFDialogue.esp UIExtensions.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Bondage Furniture World.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp SimpleSlavery.esp zDeadlyPleasures.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp submissivelola.esp Milk Addict.esp Dallas Follower.esp CheatChests.esp FNISspells.esp dvmb.esp Xevaria Follower.esp Laura's Bondage Shop.esp MF_RadiantProstitution.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp PetCollar.esp PetCollarComments.esp Bondage Straps.esp DarkPrins.esp Kalena Rios.esp VillageStocks.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Psalam Posted September 27, 2018 Posted September 27, 2018 Spoiler Here it is... What version of ZAP are you using? Some are incompatible with TUFP. -TUFP + ZEP is OK -ZAP 7 + TUFP + ZEP is OK (most common combination) -ZAP 8(+) is OK for gamers who don´t play mods that need ZEP (zaz extension pack) -ZAP8(+) + TUFP is NOT WORKING, combining these is not necessary and causes serious issues (ZAP8+ has everythong from TUFP and them some) -ZAP8(+) + ZEP is NOT WORKING -ZAP 8 (+) + ZEP + TUFP is NOT WORKING from HSH modpage - originally from T.ara (who should know since he wrote or helped write all the mods listed). More Nasty Critters MUST come before SLAL, even if you have to move it there manually. See MNC and SLAL modpages. I'm not expert on this but I understood that damoyl and Defeat were incompatible. I think that's all I see right now.
donttouchmethere Posted September 27, 2018 Posted September 27, 2018 did you activate the memory allocator in crash fixes? activate the memory allocator patch of crash fixes in CrashFixPlugin.ini UseOSAllocators=1 maybe your just running out of skyrim used RAM
Claire17175 Posted September 27, 2018 Author Posted September 27, 2018 Memory Allocator was/is activated (UseOSAllocators=1) But CrashFix Description is saying that Skyrim`s Memory Allocator has to be disabled and regular C Malloc to be used. How to do that?
Claire17175 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Posted September 28, 2018 Had made the recommended Changes: Installed ZAP 7 instead of ZAP 8, placed MNC before SLAL and deinstalled DAMOYL. But got another CTD showing the same Error Message (Stack full) ? It`s the Memory Problem I think and hope to get solved... Nevertheless thank You very much for Help ?
GenioMaestro Posted September 28, 2018 Posted September 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Claire17175 said: now I have a "clean" Skyrim without any errors in Mod Manager. But Game is crashing often by Fast Travelling, Entering some Houses, during some Animations and sometimes at Loading Menus. With 100 mod's you not need use UseOSAllocators=1 The normal memory manager of SKSE can handle it whitout problems. Only is really need with more that 200 mod's or more than 30 dll's inserted in SKSE. As you have a lot of CTD verify the stability tools. Install this if you not have it: SKSE Memory path Crash Fixes 12 ENB in Boost mode... Today is strictly necesary have ENB at least in Boost mode. You can have a problem in the INI files. Install BethIni. Open it and select ENB mode and recomended Tweaks. Press High or Ultra and Save/Exit. Skeleton problems is a know cause of CTD. Reinstall XPMSE and put it the last in the load order. None mod can overwrite XPMSE. Be sure you install it with the corresponding patch's. Launch the installer of XPMSE and verify it. Of course, test the stability of the game in a NEW GAME. Is know that some problems in the savegame can cause CTD.
Claire17175 Posted September 29, 2018 Author Posted September 29, 2018 Did all the Things shown above on a new Game. First it seemed to work well. But after some Animation in Whiterun Brothel Display freezed and then CTD. Same Error Message by Crash Fixes as before: Stack full... I*m near to Desparation ? What is this Problem caused of?
GenioMaestro Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Claire17175 said: Did all the Things shown above on a new Game. First it seemed to work well. But after some Animation in Whiterun Brothel Display freezed and then CTD. Same Error Message by Crash Fixes as before: Stack full... I*m near to Desparation ? What is this Problem caused of? If you always get Stack full you can have a problem in C++ Libraries. Try reinstall the runtime libraries of Visual C++ 2010 and 2013 in 32 and 64 bits.
samadara Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 On 9/27/2018 at 9:14 PM, Claire17175 said: Hello, now I have a "clean" Skyrim without any errors in Mod Manager. But Game is crashing often by Fast Travelling, Entering some Houses, during some Animations and sometimes at Loading Menus. Crash Fixes v12 is telling: Stack full... crash_2018_09_27_16-50-05.txt May be too many Mods loading? Thank You for Help... I dont know if you have ENBoost, if not then: Download it from here https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38649 instal it and after read here how to set your enblocal.ini section Memory here http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI/Memory make your Memory section settings, start the game and see how its running, if not as you want, modify again your Memory section settings and try again. I run ENBoost since one year and 99% from my CTDs dont exist anymore. I give you my enblocal.ini memory settings but you must self run the http://enbdev.com/download_vramsizetest.htm to find how much MB memory you have, read exactly on Memory section the VideoMemorySizeMb part. My enblocal memory section settings, only as example: [MEMORY] ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true DisableDriverMemoryManager=false DisablePreloadToVRAM=false EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false ReservedMemorySizeMb=1024 VideoMemorySizeMb=21730 EnableCompression=false AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false I play Skyrim LE on 4k resolution all the time and with 200 mods. CPU i7 6700 Grafics NVIDIA GTX 980 Memory 16gb DDR 4 Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Neko-Barbare Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 You can try this. It helps me a lot when having such CTD problems. First enter in the console in the main menu and write : "coc quasmoke". Then when it finishs loading, make a save. After that enter the console again and write : "player.kill" While your character is diying (during the animation I mean) load yyour current save (the one with the CTD problem). When you've load your save enter the console and kill your character again (with player.kill) and let the game reload this save. Then you will see your character and NOW you can save without crashing. Hope it'll helps you.
Claire17175 Posted September 30, 2018 Author Posted September 30, 2018 First: Thank You Guys so much for Spending Time on Trying to help me :-) I`ve learnt a lot since Playing this Game. But I`m still a Noop in technical Things. So I can only do Things I`m told to do and see the Results... Therefore I did as You described - and it`s working a bit better now (especially Game Loading takes considerably less Time) . But there is still some Stuttering at Loading the Game and in Game after a While i get still CTD with same Error Message ("Stack full") :-( Something I`m wondering about: The VRAMSizeTest is showing only 2.112 MB (having 4 GB RAM) - seems relatively little to me...
GenioMaestro Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Claire17175 said: Something I`m wondering about: The VRAMSizeTest is showing only 2.112 MB (having 4 GB RAM) - seems relatively little to me... Make work a modded skyrim with 100 heavy mod's in a machine with ONLY 4 GB RAM is not easy. I presume your CPU is slow and your video card have only 1 gb of VRAM, then expect problems. The tools work perfect with 8 gb but is a bit dificult get the correct configuration with only 4gb. Enable UseOsAllocators=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini and configure the memory section of ENB in AUTO. Be sure your memory seccion inside ENBlocal.ini is like this: [MEMORY] ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true DisableDriverMemoryManager=false DisablePreloadToVRAM=false EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false ReservedMemorySizeMb=128VideoMemorySizeMb=0 EnableCompression=trueAutodetectVideoMemorySize=TRUE With that, ENB only get the real available memory and not get all the memory that you specify. If the problem persist try EnableCompression=FALSE Launch BethIni and be sure you enable the ticks for ENB Mode and Recomended Tweaks. Try the options Medium and Low in BethIni. Open your skyrim.ini and put the [Papyrus] section as this: [Papyrus] bEnableLogging=0 bEnableProfiling=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000 fUpdateBudgetMS=1.6 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600 iMaxMemoryPageSize=8192 iMinMemoryPageSize=256 If the problem is not solved with all of this, can be a problem in DirectX. Download and re-install the directc redistributables from june 2010: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109 Verify the driver of your video card. Go to Device Manager --> rigth mouse click over mi pc search for your video card and select -->Update controler software If with all the utils installed, c++ and directx reinstalled and manually aplied the specified configuration the problem not disappear the only solution is remove mod's. Start removing hdtPhysicsExtensions, is a bit hardware demanding and need a lot of memory and resources.
yatol Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 On 9/27/2018 at 9:14 PM, Claire17175 said: now I have a "clean" Skyrim without any errors in Mod Manager. But Game is crashing often by Fast Travelling, Entering some Houses, during some Animations and sometimes at Loading Menus. Crash Fixes v12 is telling: Stack full... because there's no errors in your mod manager, your skyrim is clean? no idea what crash fix do, think it mess with some settings to reduce ram ctd, that are most ctd heard of crashfix when i tried enderal (it say to install it, i do it, no idea what it do about ctd...) enderal esm was a huge mess when i took a look after getting stuck with the mayor quest bug that bug was because the dialog quest had the same id as a loading screen all mining ore script were spamming errors because there's no cidhna mine in enderal some idles were no good because the condition were no longer in the esm that huge mess was nothing complicated to take care of (but it wasn't taken care of before the release) you have errors in the papyrus log with the id of the stuff to fix, you go there and fix whatever is the problem for the mining ore, you put back cidhna quest and it's fine (doesn't matter there's no cidhna) you load crap kit, you get an errors.txt with everything the game don't like your skeleton don't have tbbp but you have a tbbp armor, it's there all the ctd are there that's the easiest and fastest way to fix them instead of asking other to look at useless stuff ; EBP(1F4EE940); ESP(1F4EE920); STACK(F5340C F5342E 4202B9 C3A7C1); Not so useful info (don't post unless asked? STACK_FULL(F5340C 0 0 0 0 0 2618CB80 312B4020 1F4EE95C F5342E 1F4EE990 400 1148E34 0 1F4EE984 1F4EFA04 4202B9 1F4EE990 400 1148E34 1F4EE984 C3A7C1 1 somebody have ask you the not so usefull info? who can read that? beside the one that made crash fix, and know what that is?
Claire17175 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Posted October 2, 2018 Done all the Things again including Installing/Reinstalling the Utils - nothing changed. Then removed some Mods (especially HDT to reduce Memory Using), reinstalled XPSE and so on. CTD happens later (with same Error Message) but some Animations are wrong now: for Example PC is lying while Using vertical Furniture like Crosses, PC or NPC is just standing during some Animations. There is no Difference between using or not using Crash Fixes. Installed CK (took a while I understood You mean Creation Kit ;-). But by Running it don`t get a File called Errors.txt - don`t find any Connection between Game and CK (may be my Fault cause of Ingnorance).
GenioMaestro Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 https://www.loverslab.com/topic/46913-how-to-debug-ctd/?do=findComment&comment=2387722 Are you ussing WINDOWS 10 in a machine with ONLY 4gb of memory??? HOW??? If you have Windows 10 try follow the indication in this post: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3089504-fix-for-skyrim-crashing-instantly-with-enb-on-windows-10/page-14#entry56131491 Your ORS say the error is in SexlabUtil.dll that is part of the main SexLab 1.62: MODULE_NAME: SexLabUtil IMAGE_NAME: SexLabUtil.dll Reinstall SexLab 1.62 and download and install the updated version of PapyrusUtil. In game, in the MCM of SexLab, in the second page, be sure you have active the mark for Prevent CTD.
RW311 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Crashing on traveling, sleeping, etc, most often indicate the game is hitting memory limit. Stack full most likely this message means you just don't have available space to get address from. Your pc specs would help determine if this is the case, also check papyrus logs for stack dump this could cause skyrim to reach the stack limit. Another possibility is you are running the game in a limited permission state and crash fixes or skse memory hack are prevented from accessing any memory by windows. Use this to find out how much memory game is using and how much is available. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/6491
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