shencereys Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 This actually has been a long standing problem I've had but until recently it's only been a minor annoyance: My NPCs sometimes spawn in with Zaz / Devious collars equipped (and sometimes will just acquire them later after a cell update). I'd prefer it if they didn't do that at all - prefer it if they spawned with no Devious Devices or zaz equipment of any kind in fact. Here's a load order - I've removed mods I'm 100% certain can't be the cause : Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm EFFCore.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm BeeingFemale.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Inn Girls Resources.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm paradise_halls.esm Heretical Resources.esm ITortureFramework.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm CreatureFramework.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp UIExtensions.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp SexLabDefeat.esp DSHg - Hats.esp DSHg - Helmets.esp DSHg - UpdateDB.esp DSHg - UpdateDG.esp FNIS.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp SexLab Attraction.esm SkyUI.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp VioLens.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp zzArmormashups.esp ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI.esp JKs Skyrim.esp 3DNPC.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp PetCollar.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp Slaverun_Reloaded.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp EFFDialogue.esp HentaiCasualKarliah.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp AshiensCursedRings.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp PubicMeshColor.esp SexlabAchievement.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp TrueStorms.esp mintylightningmod.esp MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp dcc-dm2.esp SexLabTools.esp pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp EldersOfSkyrim.esp FNISspells.esp SerialStrip.esp SerialStripper.esp WestWindMisfit.esp SlaveTats.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp AddItemMenu.esp SexLab Strapon.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Devious Deviants.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp Hott Interesting NPCs.esp SLALAnimObj.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp I'm not asking for anybody to dig through a bunch of files or teach me how to edit anything - but if you happen to know which one of these guys is adding Collars to my NPCs and Followers when they spawn in, I'd appreciate it if you could point it out. Thanks
GenioMaestro Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 In your mod list i not see a mod that can make this. Have you make a test in a NEW GAME??? If problem happend in a NEW GAME probably is a mod making it. If problem disapear in a NEW GAME can be for trash in your savegame or bad configuration of a MCM. If problem happend in a NEW GAME disable mods until the problem disapear. If you disable ALL your mods, excep the core game and the main mods of DD, and the problem persist can be for trash in your skyrim directory caused by bad mod installation or un-installation. I have this problem sometimes, one when my NMM crash in the midle of a installation time ago. Another when i manually re-mod a mod.
shencereys Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: In your mod list i not see a mod that can make this. Have you make a test in a NEW GAME??? If problem happend in a NEW GAME probably is a mod making it. If problem disapear in a NEW GAME can be for trash in your savegame or bad configuration of a MCM. If problem happend in a NEW GAME disable mods until the problem disapear. If you disable ALL your mods, excep the core game and the main mods of DD, and the problem persist can be for trash in your skyrim directory caused by bad mod installation or un-installation. I have this problem sometimes, one when my NMM crash in the midle of a installation time ago. Another when i manually re-mod a mod. Yeah I'm running through this now - always new games. But this could be many hours of testing before i find it. I'm turning off mod after mod. But if someone can see a mod that's causing it and just point it out that could potentially make my search many hours shorter. I should add I think it's only ZAP items that are being added, only collars, and not always, only occasionally. I have a feeling something is adding these collars to the leveled lists, or adding them by script. Hopefully not the latter because that'll be very difficult to fix I think.
GenioMaestro Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 You can try the DIRECT WAY... is not waranty success but some times work. DIRECT WAY: If the problem happend in cell change, simply enter and exit from a cell to another until the problem appear. In the exact moment that you see any of your folowers equiped with the collar, inmediatelly load your last savegame and make exactly the same things. If the process is repeated, verify it again, load and repeat, and another, load and repeat, for be sure is not an aleatory thing. When you have a game saved in a position that the problem happend with security, disable mods and load your savegame until the problem disapear. This can cause problems because maybe your game not load always with mod's disabled. Try install Crash fixes, Load Game CTD Fix and Safety Load
shencereys Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 Update - Found it. searched specifically for one of the actual item names that was equipped. That actually returned usable search results. Culprit is: SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm There is a setting that equips Devious Devices on random npcs if it determines they have a "submissive" fetish. One of those item types can be collars. This setting can actually be toggled off (in the MCM under "Customization NPC"), which stops npcs from spawning with random collars. Well hidden feature I never knew the mod had.
shencereys Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: You can try the DIRECT WAY... is not waranty success but some times work. DIRECT WAY: If the problem happend in cell change, simply enter and exit from a cell to another until the problem appear. In the exact moment that you see any of your folowers equiped with the collar, inmediatelly load your last savegame and make exactly the same things. If the process is repeated, verify it another time, load and repeat, and another, load and repeat, for be sure is not an aleatory thing. When you have a game saved in a position that the problem happend with security, disable mods and load your savegame until the problem disapear. This can cause problems because maybe your game not load always with mod's disabled. Try install Crash fixes, Load Game CTD Fix and Safety Load aha, thanks for the continued help - its guys like you that make using this site so great. I did find it! (see above if you're curious)
GenioMaestro Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 I never install and test SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm... This site have hundreds and hundreds of mods. I very dificult know all and know the problems that generate. Specially when start to mixing it.
shencereys Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 Its ok! hardly anyone can be expected to know all these mods. The important part is you tried to help, and your advice was all good - nothing was a wrong procedure.
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