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Maer & Her Mods (Mod List Discussion)


Anunya

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I've had a few people ask about the mods used for the Maer playthrough. Rather than put them in comments or direct messages I'm posting them here. I have the complete load order at the end of the post if you want to read through it, but I can talk a bit about the key mods (since I have some mods installed but disabled in the MCM, installed but never really used, or installed but something's wrong somewhere so I never see them in action). Looking at it, it looks like I have some random Flower Girls thing there that I should probably take out since I'm using Sex Lab.

 

Obviously I have Sex Lab, a bunch of animations and so on (SLSO, Sex Lab Aroused, Blush When Aroused, Drip When Aroused, SLEN) installed. I also have some historical/ realistic weapons and armour because that's the way my tastes run, CBBE, 3BBE, HDT-SMP, various body textures on so on. If you're curious about any of it, feel free to ask in the comments.

 

The core of the playthrough, however is Sex Lab Survival (source of barefoot speed debuff, orgasm fatigue, misogynistic low carrying capacity and lessened damage, horniness for spell casting (IIRC), and Septims with actual weight), Devious Followers Continued (starting out the relationship), Submissive Lola (turned on manually once DFC hit some roleplaying triggers I defined), and Sex Lab Solutions. Apropos2 adds sex wear and tear debuffs, and Spank That Ass adds to (or rather subtracts from) DFC willpower so that matters too. Sex Lab Adventure is also in there, but not doing much in this playthrough.
 

Once I did some of the Dibella Quests I also turned on Dibella's Blessing manually.  I have Wintersun Faiths, and Wintersun for SL.

 

I do have Frostfall enabled, but turned down to minimum exposure. Sex Lab Survival (IIRC) has a setting to give some help against hypothermia which I've cranked up. I've also used Frostfall's debug MCM to make some of my random items acccesories that provide legendary protection against cold/ rain. My goal here is to make the weather something that I worry about a bit (especially staying out all night), but avoid the mad scramble to stay indoors all the time that I find I get from regular Frostfall.

 

To keep the game low powered I have Slow Levelling, Sleep to Level, No Starting Spells, Immersive Spell Learning cranked to max, and Rare Spell Tomes. I have Wildcat Combat, but it seems mostly to add a bit more impact to getting hurt.

 

Oh, I also have Radiant Prostitution in case Maer needed to make some money in the early game by selling her body and dignity. She didn't need to, but it also integrates very nicely with Submissive Lola so who knows.....

 

Complete Load Order in Spoiler Block:

 


Skyrim.esm
DeviousFollowers.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
CT_AskToShowRoom.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
RM_Barbarian.esp
EstrusTrappedEggs.esp
EstrusSpider.esp
EstrusDwemer.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
CombatFatigue.esp
BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
BodySearchND.esp
CreatureFramework.esm
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
BanditEncounters.esp
DD_Helpers.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
AngrimApprentice.esp
DW.esp
DibellasBlessings.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
ColovianFurClothes.esp
CommonClothes.esp
3PCO.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Alchemy Redone.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp
Immersive Followers.esp
CFTO.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
BW_BarrenWorld.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Campfire.esm
Darkwater Crossing.esp
3BBB-FlowerGirls_NoStrip.esp
CBCraftableRobes.esp
AmorAdvExtended.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
BecomeABard.esp
CBBE.esp
TheCleaner.esp
daymoyl.esm
Apropos2.esp
Blades Hakama SE.esp
PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
Northpoint's Weaponry.esp
RBB - USSEP Patch.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
PipeSmokingSE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
OCharacters.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RaceMenuPresetLoader.esp
Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp
lighter pickaxes & woodcutter axes.esp
LB Lady Alina SSE.esp
FNIS.esp
Experience - Slower Leveling.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Blush When Aroused.esp
College students.esp
DawnguardMage.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
zzEstrus.esp
SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
NoOverpenetration.esp
ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp
FemaleCoverSelfAnimations.esp
Fortran's Shields.esp
12FemaleBrows.esp
FollowersDeathChance_Vanilla.esp
Frostfall_Seasonal_Temps_patch.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp
Frostfall.esp
Kaw's Claws.esp
Immersive Encounters - Open Cities Patch.esp
JNL - Lots More Followers.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
Hunters Not Bandits.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
MoreBanditCamps.esp
Mortal Enemies.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Karthwasten.esp
Light Guard Shields.esp
Keep It Clean.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
DIS_RealisticArmor.esp
Missives.esp
NibsFollowers.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
edit_LearnEffects.esp
Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp
MotionSick.esm
NoSpells.esp
NordicCooking.esp
GoToBed.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
More idle markers.esp
ImmersiveSpellLearning.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
Ophelia.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
nwsFF_NTMD_Apocalypse.esp
Open Monk Robes.esp
Cumshot.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
Random Emotions.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
BodySearch.esp
Sleep to Level Up.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp
SexyStartingOptions.esp
Sleep for Credit.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SexLabAroused.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
Runandwalkpaces.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
Shor's Stone.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
sneak mod.esp
Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SeptimNotGoldLight.esp
SWT1.2.esp
SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
SLSO.esp
SLSO_F_VP_The Girl Next Door.esp
SLSO_F_VP_Maria.esp
SLSO_F_VP_Eliz.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Redguard Noble Armor.esp
Shield Enchantments.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
SexyMerchantClothes.esp
Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp
Spank That Ass - Butter Balm.esp
submissivelola_est.esp
Tentapalooza.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Summer Miner trunks and tunic.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
Rare Spell Tomes.esp
RainRepel.esp
Hoop Earrings.esp
SexistGuards.esp
SLSLolaPatch.esp
SLAdventures.esp
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
UIExtensions.esp
TrueStormsSE.esp
SL Survival.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
CumshotSL.esp
[Christine] Forsworn Retribution.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
BetterQuestObjectives - Wintersun Patch.esp
Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
Hunterborn.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Wintersun - BCS Patch.esp
Whistling Mine.esp
Wintersun - SexLab Integration.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp
zzArmormashups.esp
WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
Whistle.esp
WetandCold.esp
DFLolaPatch.esp
nwsFF_NTMD_ElementalDestruction.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Immersive Encounters.esp
ImprovedClosefacedHelmets_WACCF.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
Cloaks.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Keep It Clean.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
3BBB-RaceMenuMorphs.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
XPMSE.esp
WintersunSLI - DD expansion.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
KSWigsSMP.esp
3BBB.esp
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
nwsFollowerFramework.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 

 

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@Anunya I have been reading this list in one of your later blog posts you mention utilising Experience mod however you haven't really given a suggestion or recommendation, through possibly an example of the kind of values, which you are using in the config file for it.

 

Also worth considering for a future playthrough and/or blog story, if you aren't already utilising try Equipment Durability System (just make sure that you add Devious Devices etc - to non-breakable list).

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2 hours ago, KLongad Sirtup said:

@Anunya I have been reading this list in one of your later blog posts you mention utilising Experience mod however you haven't really given a suggestion or recommendation, through possibly an example of the kind of values, which you are using in the config file for it.

 

Also worth considering for a future playthrough and/or blog story, if you aren't already utilising try Equipment Durability System (just make sure that you add Devious Devices etc - to non-breakable list).

I don't think I've touched the Experience mod for more than a year, so I'd have to look up if I changed the settings from the default because I honestly don't remember.

 

And yeah the Equipment Durability System looks interesting. I've downloaded it, but haven't played around with or really looked at it yet. The main feature I'm hoping it has is an ability to repair/ maintain gear before it breaks.

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6 hours ago, Anunya said:

I don't think I've touched the Experience mod for more than a year, so I'd have to look up if I changed the settings from the default because I honestly don't remember.

 

And yeah the Equipment Durability System looks interesting. I've downloaded it, but haven't played around with or really looked at it yet. The main feature I'm hoping it has is an ability to repair/ maintain gear before it breaks.

 

Yes. Please go and look up the Experience mod configuration info for your settings. Please update this blog entry with the details in a spoiler so people can read it if they wish.

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5 hours ago, KLongad Sirtup said:

 

Yes. Please go and look up the Experience mod configuration info for your settings.

 

Turns out it's an easy answer: there's no MCM for the experience related mods and I have not messed around with any console commands or anything. I'm using whatever it is out of the box.

 

So I'm using Experience and Experience - Slower Levelling as is.

 

For Immersive Spell Learning, I've cranked the time factor up to max (300%), and I also have Rarer Spell Tomes SE and No Starting Spells. Other than the time factor for ISL, I haven't changed anything from the default install. I played around with Spell Research at one point, but found it too tedious and frustrating in actual gameplay. I also had Really Expensive Spell Tomes, but the cost scale was too massive for my game (and also had the reverse effect that finding a single spellbook would be a massive windfall).

 

 

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How does ISL cranked up to 300% interact with Devious Followers? In my experience even at just 100% time it made learning higher-level spells often significantly expensive because the DF still expects to be paid while you're spending time with the notes. Wondering if 300% discourages you from experimenting with spell builds.

 

Experience does have a config file that you have to tweak outside the game. For me I turned down all XP by 50%. I like the speed of leveling that results from this setting, but it also makes Devious Followers easier because DF costs only really starts spiraling out of control at higher levels. I also use the Uncapper to change health/magicka/stamina gain per level to just 5 instead of 10, which also works in adding to that "weak girl" experience.

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6 hours ago, Buridan said:

How does ISL cranked up to 300% interact with Devious Followers? In my experience even at just 100% time it made learning higher-level spells often significantly expensive because the DF still expects to be paid while you're spending time with the notes. Wondering if 300% discourages you from experimenting with spell builds.

 

The way it has turned out for me so far is that - combined with with Rarer Spell Tomes - every time I saw a spell tome I might be interested in I bought it. Typically, that ended up driving me deeper into DFC debt. The first few times I used the game, but once Maer switched to gold control it just became "can I borrow some money?"/ "sure we'll just add it to the talley" (or wiping out all the profits from a successful dungeon run or alchemy inventory clearance). I really think Rarer Spell Tomes added a lot to that dynamic (and definitely lowered the scope for experimenting with builds). The question were always "can I afford this?".... "when will I have time to learn it?"... "is there some other spell I'll study later instead?"... and "but if I don't buy this now I don't know when I'll get the chance to get it next time." It meant that sometimes I invested effort in less optimal spells - like Bound Hunting Knife and Repel Rain and whatever the Novice level summon melee weapon spell is - because I had nothing else available.

 

In terms of learning spells, it definitely forced me to prioritize which spells Maer learned (of the ones I got access to). It was very much a "grab an hour here and there in between running around to satisfy Master's whims" and learning even a Novice spell like Lesser Ward or Flames felt like a potentially game changing accomplishment (once I found them, which took a while) which played out over a couple of game days or longer... followed by experimenting with exactly how much it powered Maer up given all the other debuffs in play.

 

Meanwhile, Apprentice level spells like Flame Atronach and the various Bolt spells takes several days of concentrated study (I use RND so Maer needs to eat and sleep and so on), and at least a week or two if busy with serving other people's needs. Maer hasn't gotten to Adept level yet (or even near them), but I feel like if she manages to get there it might be an end game state for the play-through. Alternately, I'll adjust some settings (I typically change some settings after a major plot development).

 

I'm not sure how far you've read yet, but the next part pertains to events in Maer 12 & Maer 13, so I've spoiler blocked it just in case you haven't got that far and want to let the story unfold chronologically:

 

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When Maer is at the College DFC is paused and she doesn't have a SubLola master either, so the time pressure is pretty much absent. Maer learned a couple of Apprentice level spells (39 to 42 hours of study, IIRC) the full way. It got a bit boring after a bit, so I set the multiplier down to 25%, learned all the Apprentice and Novice spells she had notes on, and hand-waved it as "a few months pass." I didn't touch the higher level Adept spells, so I'll still have to figure out how to put several hundred hours of gameplay time in to learn those. Alternately, I'd have to get to a story point that justifies lowering the multiplier again but right now my thinking is that Maer has to get a couple of those spells "the hard way" before I'll even consider it.

 

 

6 hours ago, Buridan said:

 

Experience does have a config file that you have to tweak outside the game. For me I turned down all XP by 50%. I like the speed of leveling that results from this setting, but it also makes Devious Followers easier because DF costs only really starts spiraling out of control at higher levels. I also use the Uncapper to change health/magicka/stamina gain per level to just 5 instead of 10, which also works in adding to that "weak girl" experience.

 

Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. I've looked at it a bit now and I am considering my next play through already (of course, isn't that always the case). I might try out a "no XP stuck at Level 1" play through (maybe while trying out The Ancient Profession). Or maybe some other skewed set-up like a thief one with XP only from thief related things.

 

Part of me just wants to do another Maer play through, but with a different configuration of "it's hard for you, poor girl" mods and settings, and part of me wants to try something different (warrior play through, actual dragon born play through, thief play through, stuck at level 1 play through... who knows)

 

Some good ideas there, though, thank you :)

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Interesting dynamic with Rarer Spell Tomes, I hadn't even thought of that!

 

12 hours ago, Anunya said:

I might try out a "no XP stuck at Level 1" play through (maybe while trying out The Ancient Profession).

 

One thing to consider with this method is that this might actually make the game easier since (by default at least) enemies scale with your level, and level 1 enemies are weaker compared to you (f.e. a basic bandit having only 35 HP vs your 100 HP).

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1 hour ago, Buridan said:

Interesting dynamic with Rarer Spell Tomes, I hadn't even thought of that!

 

 

One thing to consider with this method is that this might actually make the game easier since (by default at least) enemies scale with your level, and level 1 enemies are weaker compared to you (f.e. a basic bandit having only 35 HP vs your 100 HP).

 

That's a good point. Personally I haven't felt particularly powerful at the lowest levels, but then again levelling up is pretty fast. Maybe I just haven't noticed.

 

On the other hand, if you're dealing with a fixed level it may be easier to adjust all the other variables and debuffs to get the relative power levels you're looking for.

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