Oblivion - Dynamic Leveled List

[Nepro]

Problem: Oblivion freezes when loading the mods before getting into main menu

 

Solution: Use Wrye Bash 295 (version 295). Dynamic Leveled List doesn't work with Bash Patch that comes from Wrye Bash 295.

 

[spoiler=Original Post message]I did everything according to installation instructions, but the game won't even load to the main menu. It freezes when it loads the mods.

 

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.35Beta]
05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
06  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
09  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
0A  Lovers with PK.esm
0B  TamagoClub.esm
0C  HiyokoClub.esm
0D  LoversCreature.esm
0E  x117race.esm
0F  HorseCombatMaster.esm
10  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]
11  YoungerHotterNPCwithPussies.esp
12  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.2]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
13  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
14  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.1]
15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
17  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
1A  Idle Dialogue.esp  [Version 1.3]
1B  Guiding Beacons.esp
1C  Portable Campsite.esp
1D  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
1E  Populated Prisons.esp
1F  FormID Finder4.esp
20  Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
21  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
22  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
23  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
24  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
25  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]
26  DLCHorseArmor.esp
27  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
28  DLCOrrery.esp
29  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
2A  DLCVileLair.esp
2B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
2C  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
2D  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp
2E  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
++  MaleBodyReplacer.esp
2F  Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp
30  M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp  [Version 2]
++  M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp  [Version 1]
**  DMRA BBB Armamentarium Complete.esp
31  DLCThievesDen.esp
32  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
33  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp
34  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
35  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
36  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
37  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
38  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
39  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]
++  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]
3A  OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp  [Version 1.33]
++  OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp  [Version 1.33]
++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]
**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
3B  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
3C  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]
3D  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8]
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
44  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
45  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
46  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]
**  TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp
++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp  [Version 1.39c]
47  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
**  ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp
++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  MMM4OOO&FCOM- Slofs Horse & DLC Armor.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
48  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  DMRA BBB Artifacts Complete.esp
49  Gaenor in Dementia.esp  [Version 1]
4A  Jail Break Escape Routes.esp
4B  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.6]
4C  M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp  [Version 6]
4D  M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp  [Version 2]
++  OldwolfLifeLikeStatues.esp
++  Shady Sam Enhanced.esp
4E  SRJmarasProtection.esp
4F  The Siren's Deception.esp
50  innquest.esp
51  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.0.5]
**  Cyrodiil Travel Services Vwalk.esp
52  boat ride.esp
53  za_bankmod.esp
54  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
55  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
56  DLCFrostcrag.esp
57  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
58  Knights.esp
59  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
++  DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
**  Knights Vwalk.esp
5A  M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.esp  [Version 3]
**  DLC_MOBS.esp
5B  MannimarcoComplete.esp
5C  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
5D  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]
5E  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]
5F  Banes Guilds UnitedOOO.esp
60  CoverYourself.esp
61  LadyDeath_DMRA.esp
62  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
63  GoldCoinBagger.esp
64  M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp  [Version 7]
65  Nephs Unique Thievery.esp
66  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
67  RenCorpseMod.esp
68  LoversTamagoClub.esp
69  LoversEncounter.esp
6A  HiyokoGenetics.esp
6B  HiyokoGenerator.esp
6C  HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp
6D  LoversAdultYield.esp
6E  LoversSoundCreature.esp  [Version 0.1.0]
6F  LoversFSE.esp
70  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
71  LoversHooker.esp  [Version 2.2]
72  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
73  LoversRaperS.esp
74  LoversOverhaul.esp
75  LoversJoburg.esp
76  LoversBed.esp
77  LoversImmoralGuards.esp
78  LoversPayBandit.esp
79  666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp
7A  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 94]
7B  LoversCreature.esp
**  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp
**  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp
7C  LoversSkirtFlipper.esp
7D  LoversStopCombatEx.esp
7E  LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
7F  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
80  LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp
81  PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp
82  LoversHVirus.esp
83  Nudeshy X.esp
84  nudeshyceadb.esp  [Version 2.8.2]
85  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.1]
86  Basic Personal Hygiene.esp  [Version 2.5]
87  Nekhanimal's Awesome Vampire Mod.esp
88  M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp  [Version 1]
89  M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp  [Version 2]
8A  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]
8B  MCS extension.esp
8C  Resurrect.esp
8D  SetBody.esp
8E  AutoSetBody.esp
8F  Real Time Lockpicking Minigames.esp
90  SM Bounty.esp  [Version 1.22c]
91  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
92  TRN One of the Gang.esp
93  Death No More v102.esp
94  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
95  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
96  Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
97  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp  [Version 7.1]
98  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
++  OOO-Level_Slow.esp  [Version 1.33]
++  Specialanims.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
99  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
++  x117Race ENG Race.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
9A  pussyfur.esp
9B  VailenaCompanionValeria.esp
9C  Uruk-hai Raiding Parties.esp
9D  UVII.esp
9E  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
++  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp
**  Sensual Walks.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp
9F  TT-EquipableBeardsLEVELEDLIST.esp
++  DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
++  Oblivifall - Female Armors.esp  [Version 2.1]
A0  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
A1  FCOM_MOECaptainRenaultArmor.esp
A2  M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp  [Version 2]
A3  Adjusted Armors for DMRA BBB.esp
A4  Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp
A5  BetterOrcs v1.02(Old skin&smallTeeth).esp
A6  LoversMB2.esp
A7  Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
A8  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
A9  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
AA  DynamicLeveledLists.esp

 

 

It is weird because last time I was playing Oblivion with roughly same amount of mods DLL worked all fine.

 

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

You using Oblivion mod manager ?

 

Run the conflict detector, has saved me so many hours of strife.

[Nepro]

Umm... how do I run conflict detector? I can't see it in OBMM...

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

Button right side, utilties, if I remember right.

[Nepro]

I ran conflict detector. The conflict's window disappears at the moment when the log fills with something unknown to my knowledge - it can be either error log or message detector didn't find anything.

[gregathit]

If you disable the dynamic leveled list esp can you start your game?

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

I ran conflict detector. The conflict's window disappears at the moment when the log fills with something unknown to my knowledge - it can be either error log or message detector didn't find anything.

 

Then you are doing it wrong or it's broke.

[Nepro]

I ran conflict detector. The conflict's window disappears at the moment when the log fills with something unknown to my knowledge - it can be either error log or message detector didn't find anything.

 

Then you are doing it wrong or it's broke.

 

It's broke.

 

If you disable the dynamic leveled list esp can you start your game?

 

Yes. The game without DynamicLeveledLists.esp runs like newly bought bicycle. The game loads to main menu in less than 4 sec.

[gregathit]

Well, I don't use DLL so I am not sure that I can help too much but from reading the readme.txt it mentions that if you have some odd plugins installed that can corrupt the esp. Make certain also that you have updated your Java to the latest edition.

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

 

 

It's broke.

 

 

 

Well there were two options.

 

That one is wrong.

 

Guess which it is .

[Nepro]

Well' date=' I don't use DLL so I am not sure that I can help too much but from reading the readme.txt it mentions that if you have some odd plugins installed that can corrupt the esp. Make certain also that you have updated your Java to the latest edition.

[/quote']

 

Hell yeah! Grega you're master of the help.

I ticked some esp-s into omit rule while building the patch for DLL. I listed bunch of suspected esp-s and kamboom! For the first time the game loaded with DLL esp.

 

I will figure it out soon what corrupt esp do I have. Once I find that criminal I will list him here.

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Something's screwed up. I noticed that at the time I manage to run Oblivion with DLL my bash patch wasn't ticked in. DLL.esp didn't list bash patch as its master. Then I rebuilt the bash patch and all got mixed up. I still cannot run Oblivion with DLL esp :C

[xartom]

Not sure if this is useful at all but I personally haven't been able to use DLL with a bashed patch built with the latest version of Wrye bash. Not sure why that it is but w/e.

[Nepro]

Down grading the wrye bash could solve the problem? What if I used the bash patch file from the older version while keeping wrye bash in the current version?

[xartom]

Down grading the wrye bash could solve the problem? What if I used the bash patch file from the older version while keeping wrye bash in the current version?

 

You can do that, just don't rebuild with the current (if that is the problem). Last version one that worked for me was 295 from that I upgraded to 300 and it wouldn't take even with a fresh everything with just Creature Diversity, TIE and the game selected. Also, item interchange is broken in the newest one.

[Nepro]

Seems like the new version of Wrye Bash is the root of the problem.

I was also able to run Dynamic Leveled List mod with older version of Wrye Bash. I think I had 294 at the time I was using DLL and it worked with FCOM without any troubles.

[gregathit]

Wrye Bash 300 is a piece of crap. I don't know what happened with the Wrye Team but that version is almost as bad as NMM. Revert to an earlier version and you should be fine.

[Nepro]

Wrye Bash 300 is a piece of crap. I don't know what happened with the Wrye Team but that version is almost as bad as NMM. Revert to an earlier version and you should be fine.

 

The question is how to do it without messing anything up? I remember installing Wrye Bash was always pain in the ass.

[gregathit]

It shouldn't be a problem if you use the standalone installer. Now if you go and try to install each individual component, then yea, it sucks to do.

[Nepro]

Can someone make older version of Wrye Bash available? I need 295 version as sroro stated that was the last version on which DLL worked with bash patch.

On nexus they removed all older versions. :/

Looks like Wrye Team wants make all Wrye Bash users as crash dummy testers :?

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Okay I got it. Here it is http://sourceforge.net/projects/oblivionworks/files/Wrye%20Bash/Wrye%20Bash%20295/

 

The installer version will install all I need for me right?

 

Standalone version seems to be 'copy and paste' version.

[gregathit]

Can someone make older version of Wrye Bash available? I need 295 version as sroro stated that was the last version on which DLL worked with bash patch.

On nexus they removed all older versions. :/

Looks like Wrye Team wants make all Wrye Bash users as crash dummy testers :?

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Okay I got it. Here it is http://sourceforge.net/projects/oblivionworks/files/Wrye%20Bash/Wrye%20Bash%20295/

 

The installer version will install all I need for me right?

 

Standalone version seems to be 'copy and paste' version.

 

 

Yea, use the installer version. That should install everything for you.

[xartom]

Note that 295 has face import broken. Anyway, installer should work if not you can try deleting all the folders created/added by Bash but that could take time and some folder watching.

[Nepro]

Note that 295 has face import broken. Anyway' date=' installer should work if not you can try deleting all the folders created/added by Bash but that could take time and some folder watching.

[/quote']

 

So what version do you recommend? I don't wanna use 300 it is too slow compared to 295. I wait ages for esp to tick in when I click on it. I don't have that problem with 295.

 

Anyway I succeeded running DynamicLeveledList with Wrye Bash 295.

Wrye Bash 300 cannot handle DynamicLeveledList.esp resulting in game freezing when Oblivion loads mods before getting to main menu.

 

One piece of advise when installing DLL: make sure to do start the game with clean save.

1. Tick the DLL

2. Load the game

3. Save the game

4. Quit the game

5. Then start really playing

 

I ticked bunch of other mods and build bash patch together with ticking DLL esp. Don't do that mistake. You will get black screen upon entering dungeons, caves etc.