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Good evening folks. I am having an issue with crashing to desktop pretty much only on loads and saves. The game runs for hours and hours without issue, I save a number of times, new save slots each time, occasionally an autosave. Might even load a few times. But then I'll crash on zoning and reload the game and previous save games won't load - hang (escape kill them) or flat out CTD. I have a few CTDs that everyone with hundreds of mods has but I save frequently so I don't get all pissy about it :smile:

 

Since there is a lot of conflicting information - I'd just appreciate a few folks looking over this load order. 
Note - I use enb series for memory management only. I avoid high end fancy graphics (sometimes play on my rift)
Please make suggestions, I'll listen and follow up on suggestions and not be an ingrateful lout.

I am not happy with the results of submit, but I was not happy with the results of defeat. So if
anyone has suggestions on configuring defeat along with submit I'd like to hear them. 

Here is my general order (and I may have deviated from the general Bethesda recommendations in cases where there are multiple choices or ambiguous choices)

USLEEP, other critical stability, memory bug fixes/patches 
Modders resources, utilities
User interface stuff
Global system changes i.e. overhauls
Immersion/Quests
Environmental
Big location add ons
Models, textures
Creatures, Mounts & Vehicles
Specific compatibility patches
Companions/NPCs
Animations
Weapon/armor/item patches
Weapon/armor/items expansions
Body, face, hair etc
FNIS
OVERWRITE
XPM32
Live another life


# **************************************************************
This is the "right" side (LOOT generated, TES5EDIT cleaned, FNIS run, Bodyslide run)
# **************************************************************

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
BSAssets.esm
BSHeartland.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SMSkyrim.esp
arnima.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
daymoyl.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
NARC-FalskaarConsistencyPatch.esp
NARC.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
FNIS.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Shout Like a Virgin.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Skyrim Romance Animated.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Ambriel.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
NARC-SICConsistencyPatch.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
Better Vampires.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
AliciaPainSlut.esp
SMSkyrim - Compressed.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Immersive Wenches.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
FNISspells.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
AngrimApprentice.esp
SpousesEnhanced.esp
Kate.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
BSHeartland - Textures.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
Aradia Devious Expansion.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
DeviousToys.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Viconia.esp
Lucila Dragon.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
KomAnimObjects.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
HDTSextoys.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
HelmetToggle.esp
JewelCraft.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Beards.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
CFTO.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
Bruma - Alternate Start.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

(following are disabled/included in bashed patch)

BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-BS-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
Falskaar - Hearthfire Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp


# **************************************************************
# And this is the left side
# **************************************************************

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
# FOR WHATEVER REASON WHEN I EXPORT THIS IT IS IN OPPOSITE PRIORITY ORDER
# The top is at the bottom, the bottom is at the top
# also note I used the longer form of the mod name so I can easily uncheck old versions and check new ones
#
+Bruma - Alternate Start-85325-1
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
+VR_Malisce_Overwrite
+FNIS Behavior V7_0 XXL-11811-7-0-XXL
+Superior Lore-Friendly Hair HD 2K - Rough Hair-36510-2-0
+Beards - 1K Resolution-28363-v4-1
+SG Textures Renewal CBBE-35267-1-5
+The Eyes Of Beauty 9-13722-9-0
+KS Hairdos Renewal-68311-1-4
+JewelCraft V0_20-1042
+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade-49791-1-7
+FNIS Spells V5_0_1 -- ADD-ON for the spells -11811-5-0-1
+Zim's Immersive Artifacts V1.4-81036-V1-4
+HDTSextoys v0.8
+Devious_Toys_v0.2
+Devious Devices for Him 9
+hdtHighHeel_beta0_5-36213-beta0-5
+Helmet Toggle-22765-3-02
+Clothing and Clutter Fixes-43053-1-7
+Weapons and Armor Fixes-34093-5-2
+Immersive Weapons-27644-1-5
+Immersive Armors v8-19733-8
+AmazingFollowerTweaks_1_66-15524-1-66
+MYSLALPACK v12.0
+SLAL_KomAnim_10a_update_HDTfix
+SLAL_KomAnim_09a_Update
+SLAL_KomAnim_08a_ObjectsPack
+SLAL KomAnim 08a AnimPack
+SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6
+SLAL NibblesAnims 4.3
+ZazAnimationPackV7.0[2017-05-16]
+Realistic Force-601-1-9
+SLAnimLoader-1.5
+Bijin Wives v1.1-63473-1-1
+Bijin Warmaidens v3.1.2-40038-3-1-2
+Bijin NPCs v1.2-71054-1-2
+DibellaSisterhoodSisters132
+Ambriel Fully Voiced and Quest Version CBBE-78762-AQ1-06
+Selene_v1-6-0_CBBE-TBBP_BSA-36993-1-6-0
+Viconia FULL Version 4 point 2-28941-4-2
+SpousesEnhanced_version1.7.3
+Lucila Dragon - Sexy Follower S.O-80540-2-0
+Skyrim Romance 3.0-71754-3-0
+RaceCompatibility All-in-One NMM installer - Fixed Installer Version-24168-1-106
+Hearthfires - Falskaar - Riften Content Patch-61509-0-1
+Climates of Tamriel - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch-85209-1-0
+Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch-17802-3-1
+Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch-16225-
+Even Better Quest Objectives - 1.5.8a
-Default_Overwrite
+Skyrim Immersive Creatures v6_5_2b NMM BAIN-24913-6-5-2b
+Estrus Chaurus v3.94 Spider Addon V2.1
+Estrus Chaurus 4.31
+Creature Framework 1.1.0-pre2
+FNIS Creature Pack 6_1-11811-6-1
+CD Part 4 - DD Pre Gen meshes for CBBE v3.2 body
+CD Part 3 - Catsuit CBBE Mesh & Bodyslide Data
+CD Part 2 - Meshes and Textures - 2048k V4.09
+Main File and UNP mesh Aradia 2
+AliciaPainslutSLoptional37
+SDResources361
+CC's Enhanced Ore Veins - 2K - 4.4-74836-4-4
-VR_Standard_Overwrite
+SOS
+Caliente's Vanilla Outfits - v2.1.1-12273-2-1-1
+Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition v3.4f-2666-3-4f
+COMPLETE FULL-607-1-7
+Beyond Skyrim - Bruma 1.3.30-84946-1-3-30
+BeyondReach3_991-48467-3-991
+Falskaar V1_2_1final-37994-1-2-1final
+Climates Of Tamriel-V
+Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - MCM Special Edition-18916-2-5
+Shout_Like_a_Virgin_V6.5b
+SexLab Romance V1
+xazPrisonOverhaul V033 fix
+Simple Slavery 5.3 with Devious Framework
+AngrimApprentice v2 11
+AmorousAdventures-v3_2_1-SexLab
+DibellaSisterhood132
+Dovahkiins Infamy 2 0
+Maids II - Deception-16021-5-1
+AliciaPainslutSLcore39
-Maria-v2-01-20160813-205012_ENG
+SkoomaWhore1
+CDS_V4-051_Update
+CD Part 1 - Esp and Scripts - v4.15
+MoreNastyCritters v11G
+SDPlus361
-SL Defeat v5.3.5
+Deviously Cursed Loot 6.1
+Better Vampires 8.1-9717-8-1
+Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul-65013-0-4-0-1
+Immersive Wenches-51189-1-5-4
+Immersive Patrols II Skyrim.7z-12977-2-1-0
-Better Fast Travel v3.76 - Loose - Hearthfires-15508-3-76
+Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO v2.0i-74568-2-0
+Guard Dialogue Overhaul-23390-1-4
+Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life-45894-7-0-1
+SLDialogues29
+Carriage and Ferry Travel Overhaul-68221-2-0
+Simply Knock 1.0.8 Release-73236-1-0-8
+Thief Skills Rebalance for Ordinator-68425-
+Ordinator v926-68425-9-26
+Apocalypse v945-16225-9-45
+SexLab Submit + DD Progression 1.71
+Devious Devices Expansion
+DeviousDevices-Integration4.0
+Devious Devices Assets
+SexLabAroused V28b
+SexLabFramework v162 FULL
+Cutting Room Floor-47327-2-0-8
+Unread Books Glow v2_2_0
+SkyUI
+RaceMenu v3-4-5
+IFPV-SexLabSpecial-Config-1.5
+First Person 3_4-49036-3-4
-Enhanced Camera 1.4-57859-1-4
+Better MessageBox Controls v1_2-28170-1-2
+Better Dialogue Controls v1_2-27371-1-2
+A Quality World Map 9.0.1 - Vivid with Stone Roads-4929-9-0-1
+A Quality World Map - Clear Map Skies-4929-9-0-1CMS
+Skyrim -Elys- MemInfo v0_9_8_4_PR-2006-0-9-8-4
+INI settings-51038-1-1
+Fuz Ro Doh 61-14884-6-1
+BodySlide and Outfit Studio
+PapyrusUtil - Scripting Utility Functions-58705-3-3
+JContainers-49743-3-3-0-RC-3
+NARC - NMM-FOMOD Installer-68125-1-2
-OneTweak-40706-2-1-0-2
+Crash Fixes v12 - Beta 4-72725-12
+HDT Physics Extensions-53996-14-28
+SafetyLoad 1_2-46465-1-2
+Bug Fixes v1-76747-1
+Unofficial High Resolution Patch-31255-1-2-1
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch-71214-3-0-12
*DLC: Dawnguard
*DLC: Dragonborn
*DLC: HearthFires
*DLC: HighResTexturePack01
*DLC: HighResTexturePack02
*DLC: HighResTexturePack03
 

REMEMBER! This order is backwards - I'm not an idiot! well probably not. This runs 60 FPS on my AMD 4350/Nvidia GTX 1056/SSD/ 16 GB - memory info shows about 1 gb peek use at worst (crash to desktop at 2700mb without ENB)

 

Thanks in advance. Take your time, ask any questions, make any suggestions. Peace.

 

Posted

HOW did I miss that one. Rookie mistake. 
It may be that one of the crash fixes allegedly addressed it and I dropped it from the order.
I know that was a lot of reading you did for a one liner. I appreciate it.

 

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