darkblackbad Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 the problem only occured on Lakeview Manor. ____________________________________ I think some of you maybe had seen this problem in the past. of course before i posted this thread, i already check any topic similar with this on the internet. _____________________________________ I had this error in my playthrough before. so recently i played a new game, i had installed many mod. at the beginning of the game i had completed all the byohh quest. its mean i already bought it. at the start i just made some basic floors and pillars. (its worked on all of the three houses) i think thats mean the error is gone. but after 10-11 quest i cameback to the house and build something. the error is coming back, the items that i made is not spawned. is there any way to fix this glitch other than play a new game or reinstall skyrim. --------------------------------------- Load Order (i didn't had birds and flocks) Dawnguard.esm Dragonborn.esm HearthFires.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm hdtHighHeel.esm RaceCompatibility.esm SGHairPackBase.esm Falskaar.esm FoxPalace_X.esm Gray Fox Cowl.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm ITortureFramework.esm Brawl Bugs CE.esp FNIS.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Lovergirl Race.esp MashupUNP.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Cloaks.esp DG-NoAttacks.esp Killable Lootable Children.esp Silmeria14224.esp LyPlayerVoice.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp SGHairPack01.esp SGHairPack03.esp SGHairPack04.esp SGHairPack05.esp SGHairPack06.esp SGHairPack02.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - Shop.esp HDT Havok Object.esp unpb vanilla armors.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Private Needs Discreet.esp NPCPrivateNeeds.esp MilkModNEW.esp MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp FollowerEmily.esp FollowerElf.esp SexAddict.esp Sunsakuka's Follower.esp Rowana Follower.esp Hermit.esp HDT Capes.esp Cat_mount.esp Blush When Aroused.esp TMRLilith.esp fox_ThroneXX.esp ZazResources.esp Amame_follower.esp Poet.esp JaxonzUtilities.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp taniahair(hair only).esp taniahair(for fun).esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp CyndisIrisScout.esp c35Silmeriagirl002.esp VoicesFollowerNeutral.esp Facelight.esp TavernClothes-MTM.esp Armored Bikini - UNPB BBP.esp Bless_Tinuviel.esp Bondage Straps - UNPB BBP.esp The Ningheim.esp Novamonk.Butler Uniform.esp TKcombat.esp Dodge Mod.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp Blade & Soul.esp WhiteSharkRobes.esp Rifle.esp Revealing Ebony Nocturna.esp Scythe Weapon mingyannuV20121226.esp DS_BlackKnightSword.esp RippedBodySuit.esp Satan_maid.esp RobesReplacer.esp Shaydows VampireLord Replacer OVERHAUL.esp SUNMagicArmor.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp Osare Maid Outfit.esp FollowersAlwaysEquipFromInventory.esp UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Maxwell Outfit.esp DeathRobes.esp LoversComfort.esp zz_GDRAHoods.esp nightshade_armor_UNPB.esp SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp XPMSE.esp SBF All In One + DLC.esp SBF Aela.esp CeciliaBlack.esp WMFSRenaFollower.esp Follower Onean.esp GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp LiliFollower.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Quest Eraser.esp Player Size Adjuster.esp chfshImbuedSword.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp FoxClub_Z.esp Avalon_wp.esp SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp DW.esp WindPath.esp Follower Neisa.esp Neo's Lei Fang & Christie.esp Tempest.esp RapidSlash.esp PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp S3.esp Dark Souls Weapons.esp WetFunction.esp sextoys-calyps-2.esp SkyUI.esp SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp Zhumoyi.esp SLAnimLoader.esp FalmerBikini.esp SteelBikini.esp SteelPlateBikini.esp SOS Schlong Controller.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Blackjack.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SL Sleeping Necro.esp SLALAnimObj.esp adcSexlife.esp SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp SSLToys.esp SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp Nilheim.esp GiftsOfAkatosh.esp NecroAnims.esp Tongueswcript.esp HTools.esp DorothyRobes.esp Overknee_Allusia.esp Sina Follower.esp DismissSteward.esp Overknee_Betty.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp SOS Equipable Schlong.esp Halo's Poser.esp vampirefarith.esp XNLLT.esp satan_maidcopy.esp MomoDash.esp Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp MiniBikini.esp SkyCompleteLegendary.esp Skyrim Tropical Style Suit (UNPB Remodeled).esp ExtraPocket.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp Inner Suit.esp Sit Anywhere.esp GoToBed.esp Immersive waiting.esp Animations.esp LayDown.esp No More Glowing Edges.esp ItRainedOn.esp RealShelter.esp RSPatch.esp FAMP2.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin NPCs.esp WhiterunPerformanceOverhaul.esp The Ordinary Women.esp Reinforced Ebony Armor.esp TKDodge.esp Gleaming falls.esp Daz Fantasy Collection.esp SLbikini.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp SlaveTats.esp PeeAndFart.esp Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp mannequin_collars.esp CumOnAnything.esp PerrineFollower.esp dcc-dm2.esp UIExtensions.esp _aya_lin.esp _clover.esp Astaroth Horns - All in one.esp HENTAI PANTS.esp fox56 Armor.esp TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp GPPoses.esp Tiny Little Living Origin.esp LabiaVariants.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp RandomIdleAnimation.esp Insignificant Object Remover.esp East Reach House.esp HDTSextoys.esp RPG-7.esp YunDao_Hdt_V2.7.esp zzEstrus.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp HavokCollisionObject.esp Ciceriareplacor.esp Toccata as Elisif.esp ShinShi_Armor_Replacer.esp Grass On Steroids.esp AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
valcon767 Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 14 hours ago, darkblackbad said: I think some of you maybe had seen this problem in the past. of course before i posted this thread, i already check any topic similar with this on the internet. _____________________________________ I had this error in my playthrough before. so recently i played a new game, i had installed many mod. at the beginning of the game i had completed all the byohh quest. its mean i already bought it. at the start i just made some basic floors and pillars. (its worked on all of the three houses) i think thats mean the error is gone. but after 10-11 quest i cameback to the house and build something. the error is coming back, the items that i made is not spawned. is there any way to fix this glitch other than play a new game or reinstall skyrim. --------------------------------------- Load Order (i didn't had birds and flocks) Reveal hidden contents Dawnguard.esm Dragonborn.esm HearthFires.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm hdtHighHeel.esm RaceCompatibility.esm SGHairPackBase.esm Falskaar.esm FoxPalace_X.esm Gray Fox Cowl.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm ITortureFramework.esm Brawl Bugs CE.esp FNIS.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Lovergirl Race.esp MashupUNP.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Cloaks.esp DG-NoAttacks.esp Killable Lootable Children.esp Silmeria14224.esp LyPlayerVoice.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp SGHairPack01.esp SGHairPack03.esp SGHairPack04.esp SGHairPack05.esp SGHairPack06.esp SGHairPack02.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - Shop.esp HDT Havok Object.esp unpb vanilla armors.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Private Needs Discreet.esp NPCPrivateNeeds.esp MilkModNEW.esp MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp FollowerEmily.esp FollowerElf.esp SexAddict.esp Sunsakuka's Follower.esp Rowana Follower.esp Hermit.esp HDT Capes.esp Cat_mount.esp Blush When Aroused.esp TMRLilith.esp fox_ThroneXX.esp ZazResources.esp Amame_follower.esp Poet.esp JaxonzUtilities.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp taniahair(hair only).esp taniahair(for fun).esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp CyndisIrisScout.esp c35Silmeriagirl002.esp VoicesFollowerNeutral.esp Facelight.esp TavernClothes-MTM.esp Armored Bikini - UNPB BBP.esp Bless_Tinuviel.esp Bondage Straps - UNPB BBP.esp The Ningheim.esp Novamonk.Butler Uniform.esp TKcombat.esp Dodge Mod.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp Blade & Soul.esp WhiteSharkRobes.esp Rifle.esp Revealing Ebony Nocturna.esp Scythe Weapon mingyannuV20121226.esp DS_BlackKnightSword.esp RippedBodySuit.esp Satan_maid.esp RobesReplacer.esp Shaydows VampireLord Replacer OVERHAUL.esp SUNMagicArmor.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp Osare Maid Outfit.esp FollowersAlwaysEquipFromInventory.esp UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Maxwell Outfit.esp DeathRobes.esp LoversComfort.esp zz_GDRAHoods.esp nightshade_armor_UNPB.esp SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp XPMSE.esp SBF All In One + DLC.esp SBF Aela.esp CeciliaBlack.esp WMFSRenaFollower.esp Follower Onean.esp GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp LiliFollower.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Quest Eraser.esp Player Size Adjuster.esp chfshImbuedSword.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp FoxClub_Z.esp Avalon_wp.esp SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp DW.esp WindPath.esp Follower Neisa.esp Neo's Lei Fang & Christie.esp Tempest.esp RapidSlash.esp PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp S3.esp Dark Souls Weapons.esp WetFunction.esp sextoys-calyps-2.esp SkyUI.esp SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp Zhumoyi.esp SLAnimLoader.esp FalmerBikini.esp SteelBikini.esp SteelPlateBikini.esp SOS Schlong Controller.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Blackjack.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SL Sleeping Necro.esp SLALAnimObj.esp adcSexlife.esp SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp SSLToys.esp SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp Nilheim.esp GiftsOfAkatosh.esp NecroAnims.esp Tongueswcript.esp HTools.esp DorothyRobes.esp Overknee_Allusia.esp Sina Follower.esp DismissSteward.esp Overknee_Betty.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp SOS Equipable Schlong.esp Halo's Poser.esp vampirefarith.esp XNLLT.esp satan_maidcopy.esp MomoDash.esp Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp MiniBikini.esp SkyCompleteLegendary.esp Skyrim Tropical Style Suit (UNPB Remodeled).esp ExtraPocket.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp Inner Suit.esp Sit Anywhere.esp GoToBed.esp Immersive waiting.esp Animations.esp LayDown.esp No More Glowing Edges.esp ItRainedOn.esp RealShelter.esp RSPatch.esp FAMP2.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin NPCs.esp WhiterunPerformanceOverhaul.esp The Ordinary Women.esp Reinforced Ebony Armor.esp TKDodge.esp Gleaming falls.esp Daz Fantasy Collection.esp SLbikini.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp SlaveTats.esp PeeAndFart.esp Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp mannequin_collars.esp CumOnAnything.esp PerrineFollower.esp dcc-dm2.esp UIExtensions.esp _aya_lin.esp _clover.esp Astaroth Horns - All in one.esp HENTAI PANTS.esp fox56 Armor.esp TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp GPPoses.esp Tiny Little Living Origin.esp LabiaVariants.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp RandomIdleAnimation.esp Insignificant Object Remover.esp East Reach House.esp HDTSextoys.esp RPG-7.esp YunDao_Hdt_V2.7.esp zzEstrus.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp HavokCollisionObject.esp Ciceriareplacor.esp Toccata as Elisif.esp ShinShi_Armor_Replacer.esp Grass On Steroids.esp AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp some note that may help 1 - load order needs work Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm Hearthfires.esm Dragonbron.esm USLEEP.esm rest of ESM files 2 - no USLEEP or other unofficial fixes (they do fix a lot of vanilla bugs) 3 - you should make a bashed patch (even if you don't actually use it) if for no other reason than the "missing master" warning it gives for actual missing master files OR misplaced master files. 4 - i (personally) find that placing add-ons for mods works better if they are in the same order as the vanilla game (see #1 above) 5 - makes sure nothing overwrites XMPSE. some follower mods, and other mods, include skeletons (which is fine use in those mods), but if loaded after XPMSE will overwrite it, which can cause problems. for personal ease i just install it at the end of load order, that way i can be sure nothing overwrites it. if you use a mod manager (other than MO) you may want to move it, then re-install it to be sure it has all its files in it and correctly placed. as i have not seen that bug in my game in a long time now, i tend to think that is a bug that USLEEP fixed (i could be wrong here). the last time i did see that bug it was easily fixed by - going back to the workbench and making any part again (for some reason this fixed it for me). hope this information is helpful edit if you do as i suggested in #1-#5 it will require a new game for all those changes to take full effect, and avoid any "baked in" problems. end edit
darkblackbad Posted February 13, 2018 Author Posted February 13, 2018 8 hours ago, valcon767 said: some note that may help 1 - load order needs work Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm Hearthfires.esm Dragonbron.esm USLEEP.esm rest of ESM files 2 - no USLEEP or other unofficial fixes (they do fix a lot of vanilla bugs) 3 - you should make a bashed patch (even if you don't actually use it) if for no other reason than the "missing master" warning it gives for actual missing master files OR misplaced master files. 4 - i (personally) find that placing add-ons for mods works better if they are in the same order as the vanilla game (see #1 above) 5 - makes sure nothing overwrites XMPSE. some follower mods, and other mods, include skeletons (which is fine use in those mods), but if loaded after XPMSE will overwrite it, which can cause problems. for personal ease i just install it at the end of load order, that way i can be sure nothing overwrites it. if you use a mod manager (other than MO) you may want to move it, then re-install it to be sure it has all its files in it and correctly placed. as i have not seen that bug in my game in a long time now, i tend to think that is a bug that USLEEP fixed (i could be wrong here). the last time i did see that bug it was easily fixed by - going back to the workbench and making any part again (for some reason this fixed it for me). hope this information is helpful edit if you do as i suggested in #1-#5 it will require a new game for all those changes to take full effect, and avoid any "baked in" problems. end edit i'm actually had USLEEP, but turned it off yesterday (i've seen a post that it fixed after uninstall the USLEEP). welp, i'll turn it on again.the conclusion i got is that my load order is broken and i need to start new game to remove this glitch. thank you, you had answered my question with a very detailed reply. i'm very grateful. (although i didn't know it'll work or not)
valcon767 Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, darkblackbad said: the conclusion i got is that my load order is broken and i need to start new game to remove this glitch. before you actually start a new game, assuming your game works now, you can try the fix that worked for me in the past first. go to a workbench at one of the affected sites and make anything in the list that shows up again. if nothing is showing right off you can try to use the drafting table again, and then make a item if something showed up. (if these do not work it will take a new game and still might not be fully fixed). best information i have though.
darkblackbad Posted February 13, 2018 Author Posted February 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, valcon767 said: before you actually start a new game, assuming your game works now, you can try the fix that worked for me in the past first. go to a workbench at one of the affected sites and make anything in the list that shows up again. if nothing is showing right off you can try to use the drafting table again, and then make a item if something showed up. (if these do not work it will take a new game and still might not be fully fixed). best information i have though. hey, the house problem is only occured on lakeview manor. (found it recently) i can build the pavement and pillar before but when i build the wall, it didn't shown up. it's maybe because the byohh quest falkreath (the one that jarl send you a letter had a problem that when you approach the jarl, there's no option to talk about the house.) bugged in my playthrough. but why i can build the pavement and wall pillar before? (i tried to load the savegame the moment before i build that and i can't even build the pavement and pillar again, lol.) _________________________ anyway i'll try your method first. thanks again.
valcon767 Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 53 minutes ago, darkblackbad said: it's maybe because the byohh quest falkreath (the one that jarl send you a letter had a problem that when you approach the jarl, there's no option to talk about the house.) bugged in my playthrough. ok i actually do know what bug you hit, and the real problem with it is if that method does not work it will take a new game to fix. it is a bug the USLEEP team has fixed part of, but not the whole thing, and understanding how hard that particular bug is to track down i can understand why it is not totally quashed. the bug is related to the Thane of Falkreath vanilla questline. if you have any problems progressing that questline normally it can cause later problems with Lakeview Manor. (i actually spent over a week dedicated time to trying to narrow down what causes it and got nowhere) sadly the only way i know of to fully quash it does require a new game, and some specific work in the new game to boot. note you do not need to wait and get the letter from the Jarl of Falkreath to do the Thane of Falkreath quest. i will post what has worked for me to ensure i do not run into that problem at Lakeview Manor i use this procedure on all new games now so i can both complete the Thane of Falkreath questline, and not run into that bug on Lakeview Manor, at least on building the manor itself. i will still have it happen sometimes inside the manor, but by just rebuilding anything at the workbench fixes it then for the inside stuff at least. i do use AS-LAL, so if you don't use it, or use a different alternate start you may need to adjust this to have it work for you. hopefully this works for you as well. you may have your own procedure for steps 1-12, i included them so i don't forget something. 1 - start new game 2 - adjust character for race/gender/looks in AS-LAL cell. (i have a preset so this is fast now) 3 - wait out all notices 4 - start Sexlab, wait out its notice, and load its saved settings 5 - reset creature framework, and wait for it to finish, then adjust its settings 6 - register ZAZ Animation pack animations 7 - make a hard save 8 - load save made in #7 9 - wait out fresh round of notifications (mods that require loading a saved game, and other mods that waited for Sexlab) 10 - enable all mods not started automatically and wait out notifications from them 11 - adjust all MCMs 12 - make a new hard save (in a new slot) 13 - start the game to play (use the Mara Statue in the AS-LAL cell) 14 - get into a playable state, if needed (i use the random start feature all the time and most times i have something i have to get out of to be able to play) 15 - go to Helgen and complete main vanilla game until the quest "Before the Storm" is fully completed (hang on to Black Briar Mead found under Helgen) 16 - walk to Falkreath (for some reason if i fast travel Jarl does not always have his correct dialogues). 17 - make a new hard save enroute so if i get the 1 bad location in Thane of Falkreath questline i can reload (1 of 6 chances in vanilla) note i have the Aurora Village mod and make my save there, but the cross roads by the lake where you turn south works as well 18 - talk to Jarl Siddgeir (at this point he is the Jarl for sure) about work 19 - give him his Black Briar Mead (saved in step 15) 20 - talk to Jarl about work again 21 - go kill said bandit 22 - return to Jarl, get permission to buy land 23 - talk to Jarl again and make sure i get the Help my people to become Thane quest started 24 - talk to steward and buy the land (i make the money needed by looting and selling everything i can from Helgen and the Bandit i have to kill, this works over 99% of the time for me, and if not i just go chop some firewood to make the difference). 25 - go to Lakeview Manor and build the small house completely (from the stuff in the chest at any rate from the outside). this give me the small house built (nothing made inside it yet though). 26 - complete Thane of Falkreath questline, vanilla - help 3 people in Falkreath Hold (1 take ashes from Thadegeier to Runil, 2 sell cabbage to Mathies,the farmer, in town, 3 go to Half-Moon Mill and chop some firewood and sell to Hert) just make sure to wait for the quest to update after each part (game is slow with this one a lot of times for me), or if you have Sexlab Solutions installed you can use that instead (I do). 27 - after being named Thane of Falkreath wait for Housecarl to introduce herself (might be himself for you) 28 - go to Whiterun Stables and buy rides to all the vanilla cities (opens fast travel points for late) and let the games scripted scenes play out (so they are out of the way for later visits to the cities, the stuff like the execution scene in Solitude). 29 - continue game as normal 30 - later in game build the wings of Lakeview Manor (they build normally for me every time providing i at least completed the small house and the thane questline as described above). if i do not do it in that order (skip doing the Thane of Falkreath questline to completion, steps 16-27) during step 28 of opening the fast travel points the Thane of Falkreath questline will bug out on me EVERY SINGLE TIME. the screwy part is it will bug out at a different time each game during the process of opening all the city fast travel points, and i open them in the exact same order every time (this does explain why it is such a hard bug to track down to quash). you can use the console command "sqs favor258" to check the status of the Thane of Falkreath questline, if the final stage shows a 1 on it at anytime, but all the previous stages show a 0 you have hit that bug. i used that console command a lot (tons of times) when i was trying to track down the cause of it. the final stage of the Favor258 quest (Thane of Falkreath) should get set to 1 during step 26 above, but should also have the previous stages set to 1 before it does. hopefully this information is helpful edit when i have the disappearing stuff problem inside the manor it never affects a non-respawning container if it has ever had anything placed in it. i still to this day do not understand this particular bug, but through trial and error found a method that works (mostly) to, if not prevent it totally, at least mitigate the affects to nothing game breaking anymore.
darkblackbad Posted February 13, 2018 Author Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, valcon767 said: ok i actually do know what bug you hit, and the real problem with it is if that method does not work it will take a new game to fix. it is a bug the USLEEP team has fixed part of, but not the whole thing, and understanding how hard that particular bug is to track down i can understand why it is not totally quashed. the bug is related to the Thane of Falkreath vanilla questline. if you have any problems progressing that questline normally it can cause later problems with Lakeview Manor. (i actually spent over a week dedicated time to trying to narrow down what causes it and got nowhere) sadly the only way i know of to fully quash it does require a new game, and some specific work in the new game to boot. note you do not need to wait and get the letter from the Jarl of Falkreath to do the Thane of Falkreath quest. i will post what has worked for me to ensure i do not run into that problem at Lakeview Manor Hide contents i use this procedure on all new games now so i can both complete the Thane of Falkreath questline, and not run into that bug on Lakeview Manor, at least on building the manor itself. i will still have it happen sometimes inside the manor, but by just rebuilding anything at the workbench fixes it then for the inside stuff at least. i do use AS-LAL, so if you don't use it, or use a different alternate start you may need to adjust this to have it work for you. hopefully this works for you as well. you may have your own procedure for steps 1-12, i included them so i don't forget something. 1 - start new game 2 - adjust character for race/gender/looks in AS-LAL cell. (i have a preset so this is fast now) 3 - wait out all notices 4 - start Sexlab, wait out its notice, and load its saved settings 5 - reset creature framework, and wait for it to finish, then adjust its settings 6 - register ZAZ Animation pack animations 7 - make a hard save 8 - load save made in #7 9 - wait out fresh round of notifications (mods that require loading a saved game, and other mods that waited for Sexlab) 10 - enable all mods not started automatically and wait out notifications from them 11 - adjust all MCMs 12 - make a new hard save (in a new slot) 13 - start the game to play (use the Mara Statue in the AS-LAL cell) 14 - get into a playable state, if needed (i use the random start feature all the time and most times i have something i have to get out of to be able to play) 15 - go to Helgen and complete main vanilla game until the quest "Before the Storm" is fully completed (hang on to Black Briar Mead found under Helgen) 16 - walk to Falkreath (for some reason if i fast travel Jarl does not always have his correct dialogues). 17 - make a new hard save enroute so if i get the 1 bad location in Thane of Falkreath questline i can reload (1 of 6 chances in vanilla) note i have the Aurora Village mod and make my save there, but the cross roads by the lake where you turn south works as well 18 - talk to Jarl Siddgeir (at this point he is the Jarl for sure) about work 19 - give him his Black Briar Mead (saved in step 15) 20 - talk to Jarl about work again 21 - go kill said bandit 22 - return to Jarl, get permission to buy land 23 - talk to Jarl again and make sure i get the Help my people to become Thane quest started 24 - talk to steward and buy the land (i make the money needed by looting and selling everything i can from Helgen and the Bandit i have to kill, this works over 99% of the time for me, and if not i just go chop some firewood to make the difference). 25 - go to Lakeview Manor and build the small house completely (from the stuff in the chest at any rate from the outside). this give me the small house built (nothing made inside it yet though). 26 - complete Thane of Falkreath questline, vanilla - help 3 people in Falkreath Hold (1 take ashes from Thadegeier to Runil, 2 sell cabbage to Mathies,the farmer, in town, 3 go to Half-Moon Mill and chop some firewood and sell to Hert) just make sure to wait for the quest to update after each part (game is slow with this one a lot of times for me), or if you have Sexlab Solutions installed you can use that instead (I do). 27 - after being named Thane of Falkreath wait for Housecarl to introduce herself (might be himself for you) 28 - go to Whiterun Stables and buy rides to all the vanilla cities (opens fast travel points for late) and let the games scripted scenes play out (so they are out of the way for later visits to the cities, the stuff like the execution scene in Solitude). 29 - continue game as normal 30 - later in game build the wings of Lakeview Manor (they build normally for me every time providing i at least completed the small house and the thane questline as described above). if i do not do it in that order (skip doing the Thane of Falkreath questline to completion, steps 16-27) during step 28 of opening the fast travel points the Thane of Falkreath questline will bug out on me EVERY SINGLE TIME. the screwy part is it will bug out at a different time each game during the process of opening all the city fast travel points, and i open them in the exact same order every time (this does explain why it is such a hard bug to track down to quash). you can use the console command "sqs favor258" to check the status of the Thane of Falkreath questline, if the final stage shows a 1 on it at anytime, but all the previous stages show a 0 you have hit that bug. i used that console command a lot (tons of times) when i was trying to track down the cause of it. the final stage of the Favor258 quest (Thane of Falkreath) should get set to 1 during step 26 above, but should also have the previous stages set to 1 before it does. hopefully this information is helpful edit when i have the disappearing stuff problem inside the manor it never affects a non-respawning container if it has ever had anything placed in it. i still to this day do not understand this particular bug, but through trial and error found a method that works (mostly) to, if not prevent it totally, at least mitigate the affects to nothing game breaking anymore. OMG.. Skyrim really interesting isn't. There will be many works to do.. i'm regretting that i didn't build all the small house component first before leaving it (i only build the basic floor and pillars) i think i need "AS" now since i can't even start new game. (the carriage always flying lol i wonder why) so maybe that "bug" is also caused by a "clean save" i downloaded from internet. (vanilla save at the start savefiles) well, shit. Thanks m8. Hopefully this information is helpful to the others too.
valcon767 Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 i think the reason it cannot bug out the same way anymore (i am not 100% sure though) is that completing the small house causes the game to load it (into the game) and it is actually a different cell after completing the small house, which thinking about it makes sense. though we should remember this is a Bugthesda game so i could very easily be wrong here.
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