kryssikari Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Hi there, First post and can I just say I'm a huge fan I've had Lovers running for a while now, and it works fairly well, I understand that Oblivion is buggy regardless of mods, so this isn't a particularly urgent request, but I still have a lot of CTD's, sometimes when loading a save, sometimes on fast travel, sometimes just out of the blue. The game is playable, a few missing meshes that I still can't track down, but I figured this would be a good place to seek advice. As far as I can tell, most of what should be working is working, but I'll list the errors I've found so far. 1/ Missing Mesh's popping up in odd places, for example, in the imperial waterfront, the stone statues (which I think are part of Better Cities) have a few minor missing meshes which I think are plants, or misc items. 2/ Frequent Crash To Desktop, these are somewhat inconsistent, so I can't place where they're coming from, I'm confident my load order is pretty reasonable, having ran it through BOSS, and gotten no errors in Wrye Bash or TES4LODgen. The crashes come in loading sequences most often, such as loading a save, a new area or fast traveling. 3/ occasional infinite vertex issues on some models, i think it might be a skeleton error, but its VERY inconsistent, only see it occasionally, but it can be bothersome. Doesn't effect PC at all though. 4/ Most Lovers Animations don't line up at all, I've used the Daedra Sutra to replace some, so that may be the issue... but a lot of them are just like a full character length apart. They can manually adjust it's just rediculously time consuming, and i've tried the lovers settings fix bugs options to no effect. 5/ High Heel System idles and walk doesn't seem to work for player chacater, but does for NPC's. Tried the fix Idles option, which used to work, but doesn't anymore 6/ Some missing Eyes and some hairs have lots of strange sizings when creating a new character, which I believe may be part of the Bashed Patch, but i'm not sure which settings to tweak to fix these... I think thats it for the most part. If anyone feels like taking a look over my Load Order etc, It's in the spoiler below. Any mods titled Merged xxx.esp are custom merges I've done in Gecko, which don't seem to be causing problems, since all the content thats merged seems to be there with minimal errors. Thanks for all the awesome mods anyways, and hopefully you have some advice! Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm CLS-ClassyClothes.esm Cobl Main.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Mart's Monster Mod.esm Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm Armamentarium.esm Better Cities Resources.esm Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm CLS-Craftybits.esm Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm EyeCandy - Content.esm x117race.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm Cobl Races TNR.esp Cobl Races TNR SI.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp Better Cities .esp Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp ChaseCameraMod.esp Damsels In Distress.esp Camping.esp QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp Real_Mannequin.esp Street Gangs.esp Vows and Covenants.esp Living Economy.esp Living Economy - Items.esp Cutthroat Merchants.esp Populated Prisons.esp DropLitTorchOBSE.esp sycNiceToMeetYou.esp P1DlookHereYou.esp Synchronized Date and Time.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp EyeCandy Compilation.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp FLY Armor and Clothing - Non-replacers.esp Gizmodian - Shell of the Artifice.esp Hentai Compilation.esp KDDwemerSpectacles.esp SPB Oppai Sensei.esp VipCxjHHTest.esp Hana six.esp Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp LiLi six.esp Neo's LandCH.esp Neo's Morrigan.esp Neo'sFelicia.esp Sweet six.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Cobl Glue.esp Merged DLC and Patches Plugin.esp Cobl Si.esp OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp OOO-BirthSigns.esp OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp OOO-Potions.esp Merged MMM Plugin.esp Mart's Monster Mod.esp Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp TIE.esp ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp Smarter Bandits.esp Bandit Hideouts.esp Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp BDBS - Chapel Memorial.esp Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp EM_FarmAnimals1.esp Flying Island House.esp Hentai Mania.esp Housewives v101.esp Lorekeep.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Whispered Warning.esp BDBS - Whispered Warning Patch.esp Knights.esp KORE- Blood Drinker Umbra.esp Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulArriusCreek.esp Merged Unique Landscapes Plugin.esp BanditHideouts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp HUD Status Bars.esp Realistic Hatred.esp TamagoPlayerHUD.esp TamagoBreak.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp HiyokoQuestTarget.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversAdultYield.esp LoversSetBody.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversRapeman.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversVoiceSSPx117.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversJealousy.esp LoversBed.esp LoversNecrophilia.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp LoversBrothel.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversMagic.esp LoversTrueCrime.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp CLS-Craftybits.esp CB-BeeEnhancement.esp CB-DepositsForges.esp Alternative Beginnings.esp Basic Primary Needs.esp Basic Physical Activities.esp Unholy Darkness.esp SetBody.esp MidasSpells.esp StolenItemOwnership.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp DRSplatter.esp SDR_Core.esp SDR_NPC Behavior.esp OOO-Level_Slow.esp zzEstrus.esp CuteElf11.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp X.Races.Comp.esp Cobl Races.esp Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp Cobl Races - Balanced.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities - Dark Brotherhood Chronicles.esp Better Cities - COBL.esp MassA.I.esp DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp LoversSummonRapeman.esp LoversRapeStruggle.esp LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp LoversUnicorn.esp LoversCalm.esp LoversSkirtFlipper.esp LoversImmoralSisters.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversSexKariBurne.esp MbpGirlImp.esp MbpGirlRed.esp MbpGirlBosmer.esp MbpGirlAltmer.esp MbpGirlNord.esp MbpGirlKhajiit.esp MbpGirlBreton.esp LST-EURN.esp EURN.esp RaceCompatibilityForEurn.esp OSM-Only female.esp Waywards.esp TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp WulfGlassArmor.esp Neo's Kasumi and Tina.esp SM_Metal_Kunai.esp SM_Headbands.esp LoversNiche.esp Fallen Throne Armor.esp LoversHooker.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Specialanims.esp Merged BBB clothes Plugin.esp Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xuldarkforest.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp xulImperialIsle.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulSnowdale.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp xulJerallGlacier.esp xulTheEasternPeaks.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Note: The xulXXXXXXX.esp files at the end of the load order were only added to see if they were causing missing meshes, as there is a merged version further up that seems to work fine. EDIT : This is what happens when BOSS has it's way with my load order, incase it's any use to you all. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 CLS-ClassyClothes.esm 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.32.Final] 05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.5.5b4] 06 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.8b5] 07 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] 08 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.2.3] 09 Lovers with PK.esm 0A TamagoClub.esm 0B HiyokoClub.esm 0C LoversCreature.esm 0D CLS-Craftybits.esm 0E Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm 0F EyeCandy - Content.esm 10 x117race.esm 11 HorseCombatMaster.esm 12 Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53] 13 Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53] ** Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1] ** UOPS Additional Changes.esp ** Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] 14 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] 15 Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp 16 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 17 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 18 ChaseCameraMod.esp 19 Damsels In Distress.esp 1A Camping.esp 1B QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp 1C Real_Mannequin.esp 1D Street Gangs.esp 1E Vows and Covenants.esp 1F Living Economy.esp 20 Living Economy - Items.esp 21 Cutthroat Merchants.esp 22 Populated Prisons.esp 23 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] 24 sycNiceToMeetYou.esp 25 P1DlookHereYou.esp 26 Synchronized Date and Time.esp 27 DLCHorseArmor.esp ** DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 28 DLCOrrery.esp ** DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 29 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp ** DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2A EyeCandy Compilation.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 2B VipCxj_HighHeels.esp ++ CLS-ClassyClothesFactions.esp 2C FLY Armor and Clothing - Non-replacers.esp 2D Gizmodian - Shell of the Artifice.esp 2E Hentai Compilation.esp 2F KDDwemerSpectacles.esp 30 SPB Oppai Sensei.esp ++ VA_FemmeDaedricHelmet.esp 31 VipCxjHHTest.esp 32 Hana six.esp 33 Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp 34 LiLi six.esp 35 Neo's LandCH.esp 36 Neo's Morrigan.esp 37 Neo'sFelicia.esp 38 Sweet six.esp 39 DLCThievesDen.esp ** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] ** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.5] 3A Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 3B Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ++ CB-Cobl_Glue.esp 3C Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.32.Final] 3D OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp 3E OOO-BirthSigns.esp 3F OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp ++ OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp 40 OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp 41 OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp 42 OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp 43 OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp 44 OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp 45 OOO-Potions.esp ++ OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp [Version 0.2] 46 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ** Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] 47 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.8b5] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Giants.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Spiders.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Wyvern.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] 48 Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] 49 Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] 4A TIE.esp [Version 1.48] 4B ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] 4C ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] 4D Smarter Bandits.esp 4E Bandit Hideouts.esp 4F Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.1] 50 BDBS - Chapel Memorial.esp [Version 3.1] 51 Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp 52 EM_FarmAnimals1.esp 53 Flying Island House.esp 54 Hentai Mania.esp 55 Housewives v101.esp 56 Lorekeep.esp 57 LSTBravilUnderground.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversSlaveTrader.esp 58 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 59 Whispered Warning.esp 5A BDBS - Whispered Warning Patch.esp ** DLCFrostcrag.esp ** DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 5B Knights.esp ** Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] ++ KotN Wayshrine Fix.esp 5C KORE- Blood Drinker Umbra.esp 5D Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp 5E DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.1] 5F xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 60 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 61 xulTheHeath.esp 62 XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] 63 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 64 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] 65 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] 66 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] 67 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4] 68 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2] 69 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] 6A xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 6B xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 6C xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] 6D xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 6E xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] 6F xulPantherRiver.esp 70 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 71 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] 72 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] 73 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] 74 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 75 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] 76 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] 77 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5] 78 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] 79 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3] 7A BanditHideouts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp [Version 1.0] 7B xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1] 7C xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0] 7D Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 7E HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 7F Realistic Hatred.esp 80 TamagoPlayerHUD.esp 81 TamagoBreak.esp 82 TamagoNews.esp 83 TamagoShop.esp 84 TamagoTopic.esp 85 TamagoConfide.esp 86 LoversTamagoClub.esp 87 LoversEncounter.esp 88 HiyokoGenetics.esp 89 HiyokoGenerator.esp 8A HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 8B HiyokoQuestTarget.esp 8C TamagoSetBody.esp 8D Lovers3dorgasm.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 8E LoversAdultYield.esp 8F LoversSetBody.esp 90 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] 91 LoversAphrodisia.esp 92 LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp 93 LoversFSE.esp 94 LoversDRader.esp 95 LoversRapeman.esp 96 LoversVoiceSSPx117.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 97 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 98 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 99 LoversRaperS.esp 9A LoversJoburg.esp 9B LoversJealousy.esp 9C LoversBed.esp 9D LoversNecrophilia.esp 9E LoversPayBandit.esp 9F LoversPower.esp A0 LoversContraception.esp A1 LoversNTRburglar.esp A2 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] A3 LoversCreature.esp A4 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] A5 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp A6 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp A7 LoversBrothel.esp A8 LoversStopCombatEx.esp A9 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp AA LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp AB LoversRapeSlave.esp AC LoversMagic.esp AD LoversTrueCrime.esp AE LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp AF LoversSlaveTrader.esp B0 ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp B1 CLS-Craftybits.esp B2 CB-BeeEnhancement.esp B3 CB-DepositsForges.esp B4 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.3] B5 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.1] B6 Basic Physical Activities.esp [Version 1.3] B7 Unholy Darkness.esp B8 SetBody.esp B9 MidasSpells.esp ** StealthierMagic.esp [Version 1.35] BA StolenItemOwnership.esp BB Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp BC Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp BD SDR_Core.esp [Version 4.4.1] BE SDR_NPC Behavior.esp [Version 4.4.1] BF OOO-Level_Slow.esp C0 Specialanims.esp C1 zzEstrus.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Spire Revisited.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.78] C2 CuteElf11.esp [Version 1.3.5] ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp C3 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp C4 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp C5 Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp C6 X.Races.Comp.esp C7 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] C8 Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp C9 Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] CA Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.2.3] CB Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.2.3] CC Better Cities - Dark Brotherhood Chronicles.esp [Version 5.1.0] ++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.7.0] ** Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.7.0] ++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.7.0] ++ Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.esp CD Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] ++ X-Ray Detect.esp CE MassA.I.esp CF DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] D0 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] D1 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp D2 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp D3 Merged DLC and Patches Plugin.esp D4 Merged MMM Plugin.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] D5 Merged Unique Landscapes Plugin.esp [Version 1.0.5] D6 LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp D7 LoversSummonRapeman.esp D8 LoversRapeStruggle.esp D9 LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp DA LoversMB2.esp DB Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp DC LoversHiyokoShooter.esp DD LoversUnicorn.esp ++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp DE LoversCalm.esp DF LoversSkirtFlipper.esp E0 LoversImmoralSisters.esp E1 LoversImmoralGuards.esp E2 LoversSexKariBurne.esp E3 MbpGirlImp.esp E4 MbpGirlRed.esp E5 MbpGirlBosmer.esp E6 MbpGirlAltmer.esp E7 MbpGirlNord.esp E8 MbpGirlKhajiit.esp E9 MbpGirlBreton.esp EA LST-EURN.esp EB EURN.esp EC RaceCompatibilityForEurn.esp ED OSM-Only female.esp EE Waywards.esp EF TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp F0 WulfGlassArmor.esp F1 Neo's Kasumi and Tina.esp F2 SM_Metal_Kunai.esp F3 SM_Headbands.esp F4 LoversNiche.esp F5 Fallen Throne Armor.esp F6 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] ++ LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp F7 Merged BBB clothes Plugin.esp F8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
kryssikari Posted August 26, 2012 Author Posted August 26, 2012 UPDATE : Having messed around with ALOT of things, I seem to have fixed a few of these problems, High Heels now work fine. Eyes and Hair are back to normal (seems to have been an issue inside the bash patch.) and the infinite vertex seems to have stopped, at least I haven't found one yet... EDIT: Seem to have fixed the missing meshes too, hurrah!
gregathit Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Well, you are doing some things right and others....wrong. BOSS is a great program HOWEVER it sucks hairy donkey $#@% at organizing lovers files. It just doesn't have a clue. The solution is to do one of two things: Run Boss and then hand organize your lovers files to match the one in the spoiler here. You can't ever have any lovers files below this: LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp and it needs to be below your bashed patch. Next, you need to make sure that you disable ALL lovers plugins (except the sexual organs ones) prior to building your bashed patch to make CERTAIN that they are not included in it as it can break their scripts. Additionally you need to start paying attention to what wrye is trying to tell you: ----> Delinquent MASTER: When you see this it means you have something out of order. You get this message when you put a mod that depends on another mod above it, instead of below. Finally, you need to read the readme's and not install duplicates: LoversTrueCrime.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp It clearly states to pick only one of these and not both. And this: 48 Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] You know better than to install all three of these. This is the type of detail you have to learn to look at and for if you want a stable game. Since Oblivion works off of a system of conflict resolution by using whichever is lowest in the load order it is the Reduced Reduced version that is "winning" making the other two redundant. There may be more of this so you need to go over things with a fine toothed comb to whack them out of your load order. And this: Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Pick one or the other...not both. EDIT: Hey, you also need to install NifSE and the DR6-NifSE patch. NifSE link: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/21292 DR6-NifSE link: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/40336 I also recommend disabling this: Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp and to NOT fight off of horse back at all. It is buggy as hell and can lead to a bunch of CTD's. Now, as to your questions: 1. Impossible to say for sure what mod is effecting things as you have so many that "could" be the problem. You also "could" have install something incorrectly. The best thing is to grab a program like FormID Finder and use it on the missing item to see what mod it is from and go from there. FormID Finder link: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/16704 2. You have deliquent masters in your Boss load out which "can" cause all sorts of problems including crashes. You might look into OSR (oblivion stutter remover) and Streamline from the Nexus. OSR has a better heap memory management system than the original game which can help prevent some crashing. Also, I recommend Earl Windom's Crash prevention dll: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/22282 Oblivion is buggy and with as many mods as you have going you are going to get some crashes. Be sure to turn off autosaves and NEVER quicksave. Streamline has a autosave feature that won't corrupt your saved games and won't cause crashes. 3. It "could" be a skeleton issue (you should be using Growlf's universal skeleton) but it also could just be a bad mesh, or one that is missing some texture files. All three items can cause things to go wild. If installing Growlf's universal skeleton doesn't fix things then it is one of the other two. 4. You need lovers backup2 which can be find in the lovers minor modpack in the download section. Once you make your adjustment to that animation it will save it so you don't need to mess with it anymore. Unfortunately you will have to adjust every animation that is off but only the one time. Also avoid sex on uneven ground or too near walls\objects as this plays screws up the havoc and causes animations to be "off". 5. The high heel system depends on a certain skeleton so if you install any mod that contains a skeleton either loose or inside a bsa file then it breaks the high heel system. You will have to reinstall it. 6. As to your custom race problems....well you are running a crap load of races so there are bound to be "some" problems. I don't know how well these function so they could be part of the issue: LST-EURN.esp EURN.esp RaceCompatibilityForEurn.esp Make sure they are in the proper order as that can mess things up as well. If all else fails try putting them below your bashed patch to see if that helps.
kryssikari Posted August 26, 2012 Author Posted August 26, 2012 Well' date=' you are doing some things right and others....wrong. BOSS is a great program HOWEVER it sucks hairy donkey $#@% at organizing lovers files. It just doesn't have a clue. The solution is to do one of two things: Run Boss and then hand organize your lovers files to match the one in the spoiler here. You can't ever have any lovers files below this: LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp and it needs to be below your bashed patch. Next, you need to make sure that you disable ALL lovers plugins (except the sexual organs ones) prior to building your bashed patch to make CERTAIN that they are not included in it as it can break their scripts. Additionally you need to start paying attention to what wrye is trying to tell you: ----> Delinquent MASTER: When you see this it means you have something out of order. You get this message when you put a mod that depends on another mod above it, instead of below. Finally, you need to read the readme's and not install duplicates: LoversTrueCrime.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp It clearly states to pick only one of these and not both. And this: 48 Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] You know better than to install all three of these. This is the type of detail you have to learn to look at and for if you want a stable game. Since Oblivion works off of a system of conflict resolution by using whichever is lowest in the load order it is the Reduced Reduced version that is "winning" making the other two redundant. There may be more of this so you need to go over things with a fine toothed comb to whack them out of your load order. And this: Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Pick one or the other...not both. EDIT: Hey, you also need to install NifSE and the DR6-NifSE patch. NifSE link: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/21292 DR6-NifSE link: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/40336 I also recommend disabling this: Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp and to NOT fight off of horse back at all. It is buggy as hell and can lead to a bunch of CTD's. Now, as to your questions: 1. Impossible to say for sure what mod is effecting things as you have so many that "could" be the problem. You also "could" have install something incorrectly. The best thing is to grab a program like FormID Finder and use it on the missing item to see what mod it is from and go from there. FormID Finder link: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/16704 2. You have deliquent masters in your Boss load out which "can" cause all sorts of problems including crashes. You might look into OSR (oblivion stutter remover) and Streamline from the Nexus. OSR has a better heap memory management system than the original game which can help prevent some crashing. Also, I recommend Earl Windom's Crash prevention dll: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/22282 Oblivion is buggy and with as many mods as you have going you are going to get some crashes. Be sure to turn off autosaves and NEVER quicksave. Streamline has a autosave feature that won't corrupt your saved games and won't cause crashes. 3. It "could" be a skeleton issue (you should be using Growlf's universal skeleton) but it also could just be a bad mesh, or one that is missing some texture files. All three items can cause things to go wild. If installing Growlf's universal skeleton doesn't fix things then it is one of the other two. 4. You need lovers backup2 which can be find in the lovers minor modpack in the download section. Once you make your adjustment to that animation it will save it so you don't need to mess with it anymore. Unfortunately you will have to adjust every animation that is off but only the one time. Also avoid sex on uneven ground or too near walls\objects as this plays screws up the havoc and causes animations to be "off". 5. The high heel system depends on a certain skeleton so if you install any mod that contains a skeleton either loose or inside a bsa file then it breaks the high heel system. You will have to reinstall it. 6. As to your custom race problems....well you are running a crap load of races so there are bound to be "some" problems. I don't know how well these function so they could be part of the issue: LST-EURN.esp EURN.esp RaceCompatibilityForEurn.esp Make sure they are in the proper order as that can mess things up as well. If all else fails try putting them below your bashed patch to see if that helps. Thanks for such an indepth response. I've only been modding Oblivion for about a week, and was pretty clueless before that. I think the main issue I was having in regards to duplicate instances such as TrueCrime was that I installed all this from AIOblivion, then just bundled a load of mods on top. So unfortunantely I wasn't sure what all the mods actually were, or did. Though thanks to your advice I'll go through everything with much more scrutiny. As for the mesh Issues, it seems MMM didn't install properly with BAIN, since there were 4000 files aprox, and only 2000 conflicts when I manually extracted the meshes/textures. So thanks for all the advice and I shall update once I've exhausted all the issues
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