Mud Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 So something in my mods is causing certain skill trainers to lose their functions. They'll offer training, but the following voice clip will have no sound, and not bring up the training menu. Not all of them are affected, but quite a few are, such as Ogmund in Markarth or Arcadia in Whiterun. Is something messing with their voice files or something? Load order: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 SkyMoMod.esm 03 BlackreachRailroad.ESM 04 Deus Mons.esm 05 moonpath.esm 06 RiverHelm.esm 07 SleepingTreeSanctuary.esm [Version 1.2] 08 ApachiiHair.esm 09 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 0A XFLMain.esm 0B Daeas.esm 0C RaceCompatibility.esm 0D Sanctum of the Fallen.esm 0E LunariRace.esm 0F MTAutoStorage.esm 10 ElinRace.esm [Version 20120809] 11 ElinRaceTaint.esm 12 ElinRace - ApachiiHair.esm 13 Hideout.esm 14 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.1] 15 DW Commoners.esp 16 DW Enemies and Wanderers.esp 17 Cute Girl s Replacer Markarth v01.esp 18 Cute Girl s Replacer Riften v 0.2.esp 19 Cute Girl s Replacer Solitude v01.esp 1A Cute Girl s Replacer Witherun v 3.0.esp 1B FixCombatMusic.esp 1C PersonalizedMusic_v4.0.esp 1D PM_DwemerMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp 1E PM_CollegeMusic_v1.0.esp 1F PM_BlackreachMusic_v1.0.esp 20 PM_BlackreachMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp 21 PM_DwemerMusic_v1.0.esp 22 PM_TempleMusic_v1.0.esp 23 PM_TempleMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp 24 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp 25 Birdsofskyrim.esp 26 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 27 Crafting300.esp 28 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 29 TK_Clutter_Plants.esp 2A Auto Unequip Arrows.esp 2B BBP_ArmorPack.esp 2C Cloaks - No Imperial.esp 2D Cloaks.esp 2E Cloaks - Player Only.esp 2F CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp 30 Dr_Bandolier.esp 31 fox14 Armor.esp 32 fox19 Armor.esp 33 fox15 Armor.esp 34 fox18 Armor.esp 35 Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp 36 HentaisJamellaArmor.esp 37 OchinClothingMod02_WitchHat_Edit00.esp 38 Onechanbara Kagura Set.esp 39 Osare Maid Outfit.esp 3A Plush Backpack.esp 3B R18Pn - Astaroth Suit.esp 3C R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp 3D Remodeled Armor.esp 3E SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp 3F Skeleton bikini.esp 40 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp 41 TERA Armors for Skyrim - UNPB-BBP.esp 42 tera swords.esp 43 DeadlyDragons.esp 44 DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp 45 DragonsDiversified.esp 46 DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp 47 Monster Wars.esp 48 BecomeKingOfRiverHelm.esp 49 BlackreachRailroad.esp 4A Breezehome remodel.esp 4B buildablehouse.esp 4C Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp 4D aGreyLedgeManorLITE.esp 4E moonpath_questdata.esp 4F The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2] 50 dD-No Screen Blood.esp 51 UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 1.5] 52 YKBeefsteakierDawnbreaker.esp 53 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 54 ColettesRevenge.esp 55 EmpoweredMagic.esp 56 Enchanting Freedom.esp 57 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 58 ACE Realistic Fighting.esp 59 ACE BYOG.esp 5A ACE Speech.esp 5B ACE Armor.esp 5C ACE Enchanting.esp 5D ACE Magic.esp 5E ACE Melee.esp 5F ACE Smithing.esp 60 ACE Synergy.esp 61 numenume Hair.esp 62 RenHair.esp 63 XFLDialogue.esp 64 XFLPlugins.esp 65 XFLTweaks.esp 66 Amanda.esp 67 Lyla.esp 68 Michelle.esp 69 Misha.esp 6A Companion_Ari.esp 6B Companion_Ria.esp 6C DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp 6D alteredbeginning.esp 6E EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 6F Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix.esp 70 WATER.esp 71 WATER - Get Wet.esp 72 Better Dynamic Snow.esp 73 GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp 74 dD-SkyrimMonsterMod EBT Patch.esp 75 SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp 76 ASIS-Dependency.esp 77 Sims_hair.esp 78 Monli.esp 79 ElinRace - Use Monli custom BBP Body.esp 7A MikuHairElin.esp 7B SummonElinRing.esp 7C ElinmageFollowersVanilla.esp 7D ElinRaceIdle.esp 7E ElinRaceVoice - ElinVoice.esp 7F FollowerSaber.esp 80 Sylmeria.esp 81 DTHKhajArgTailRemoverClothes.esp 82 numenume bikini.esp 83 MyTypeAeliaV3L2.esp 84 MyTypeCynthiaV3L1.esp 85 MyTypeIonaV3L1.esp 86 MyTypeJordisV3SL1.esp 87 MyTypeLydiaV3L2.esp 88 lilithssickle_2_0.esp 89 Lady of Death.esp 8A Daeas.esp 8B Followers.esp 8C BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp 8D BetterCitiesWindhelm.esp 8E modteacher3.esp 8F ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp 90 MODLusia.esp 91 AK- A Friend of Time.esp 92 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nounderwear.esp 93 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirtnounderwear.esp 94 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirt.esp 95 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_normal.esp 96 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nobra.esp 97 Al3dHotDress1_1.esp 98 JNPC_AelaTheHuntress.esp 99 Realistic Lighting.esp 9A Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp 9B Path of Shadows - Sneak Perks.esp 9C Path of Shadows - Alchemy.esp 9D Path of Shadows - Sneak Settings.esp 9E Bashed Patch, 0.esp 9F Automatic Variants.esp A0 ASIS.esp ++ DeadlyDiversifiedDragonsPatch.esp ++ Jump100.esp ++ SkyJubs_Invisible_Helmets_English_Main_1_2.esp ++ SkyMoMod_lists.esp
Chupy Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I can't help you there, but i can give a tip, how can you do it yourself. I was using this trick in the FO3/Oblivion/NV. When doing this it might CTD, so don't save during this! - disable half of all your mods, and load the game like this - if the problem still exists, then you know that the other half that you didn't select isn't the problem OR if the problem doesn't exists then the problem lies in the other half - next, from the half that is causing trouble make another half, and just use this, again try to load and see the results... and again check which half works and doesn't, and again just half that it doesn't works, and so on, again again again, till you find the problematic one, I know that it might be time consuming but still you will find the problematic ESP, sometimes you will find more than one causing trouble, so you must first find one, then again go do it all over again but not selecting the first problematic you found
gregathit Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 One thing that also might not hurt is going through your load order with a fine toothed comb and making sure you have no duplicates: 92 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nounderwear.esp 93 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirtnounderwear.esp 94 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirt.esp 95 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_normal.esp 96 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nobra.esp I am pretty sure that you were supposed to pick only one of the above and not all of them. I could be wrong but it is worth you reading the readme for that mod and any other that you may have installed where there are multiple esp files. More examples of possible duplicates: 2C Cloaks - No Imperial.esp 2D Cloaks.esp and 22 PM_TempleMusic_v1.0.esp 23 PM_TempleMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp Cheers, Greg EDIT: Also take a hard look at any skill, perk or dialogue mods that you have as one of them could be the culprit. Again, read the readme's and mod descriptions so you know exactly what each mods esp does and this can save you from all sorts of conflicts popping up.
Mud Posted August 24, 2012 Author Posted August 24, 2012 The culprit turned out to be the Dovahkiin Hideout home mod. Somehow. Seeing as how the mod seems to be abandoned, I suppose it's time to put this one to rest. And oh wow, I had no idea NMM had installed every esp. Since I couldn't read the full names in the list I thought those mods were just broken up like that. Thanks for the heads up!
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