scorcher64 Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 As the title says, I'm trying to disable (and even get rid of) LoversNiche so I can do a clean save hoping to correct these unrelated issues I have: 1. When I started using Lovers, I didn't know the proper load order, and I had mixed up the some of the Japanese versions with the English versions. I learned the load order and got rid of the Japanese versions, but some of the dialogue was left over. 2. The foreplay animations (I believe from PK extender) never worked for me. The first issue I had the receiver sat in the giver's lap and they both swayed from side to side with their arms in the air. That has since been corrected, but now it looks like they're supposed to be doing it doggy style, and the giver is facing the wrong way. 3. The futa body always works with offending female npc's, but rarely works with my own female character (only seen it work a couple of times). I also want to experiment with LoversChildDatabse. I originally downloaded LoversNiche with Donkey saying we could just simply uninstall it in his post, so I didn't give it any second thought that there will be issues after doing so. What Darkwingsv says here in Post #18 is pretty much my issue in a nutshell. However I made too much progress in my game to really want to start over. Since that post is old, I was wondering if anyone has since managed to come up with any way to reset the body, or am I just screwed and have to stick with it enabled until i finish the game, or have to start a new game? I've done a forum search and folks don't seem to mention that mod much. Posted load order just in case: 00 oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 xeoracex117.esm 04 xeorace.esm 05 Lovers with PK.esm 06 BreakUndies.esm 07 TamagoClub.esm 08 HiyokoClub.esm 09 CM Partners.esm 0A Toaster Says Share v3.esm 0B DIM Elves Of Lineage II Retex.esm 0C IceElfRace.esm 0D Chanpon.esm 0E ShieldOnBack.esm [Version 3.4.1] 0F Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esm 10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 11 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 12 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] 15 Countess Wear Gowns 1.1.esp 16 personality_idles3b.esp 17 Streamline 3.0.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 18 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 19 1SB_TerryMalick_BallGownVariants.esp 1A Apprentice Sorceress.esp 1B AdeptSorceress2.esp 1C BWisteria.esp 1D CB Elegant Dress.esp 1E CB Gothic Mistress.esp 1F crusaderdress.esp 20 candy.esp 21 Diano.esp 22 HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp 23 Dungeon Explorer.esp 24 Dominatrix Suit.esp 25 ElyndasShortSack.esp 26 Elisyum.esp 27 FF00_SA-LightArmor.esp 28 Flame Atronach Armor.esp 29 Hentai Compilation.esp 2A HentaiSeraphimArmour.esp 2B homura outfit HGEC.esp 2C HentaiSummerFestaRELOADED.esp 2D Hentai DMRA Collection.esp 2E icearmor.esp 2F JannetEveningDress.esp 30 Lady Anna.esp 31 Lady Dress.esp 32 Lady Jasmine Moon.esp 33 LBExoticAyleidArmorVender+LL.esp 34 Long fall boots.esp 35 MakotoOutfit.esp 36 moon.esp 37 MillaOutfit.esp 38 Marine Armor dm Enchant.esp 39 Ogre armor.esp 3A PatzyIntnlBikinitops.esp 3B Ryk_SorceressArmor.esp 3C Robe sexy de Mbass.esp 3D Schwertleite Armor.esp 3E SDHeartbreaker.esp 3F SpeedBuster Collection.esp 40 Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp 41 Sophitia_BKS.esp 42 Shining will.esp 43 Edhildils Seductive Poison Armors.esp 44 DMRA BBB Skimpy Shivering Royalty.esp 45 TTB.esp 46 TribalPrincess.esp 47 RFHighHeels HGEC Vipcxj.esp 48 BisSP_RHH_2.esp 49 VipCxjHHTest.esp 4A Diva.esp 4B DMRA BBB Skimpy Emperor Robe.esp 4C DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp 4D DMRA Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp 4E DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp 4F GladiatorHeels.esp 50 KAIHIME.esp 51 Lady Style.esp 52 Neo's LandCH.esp 53 Priestess_of_Dibella_HGEC.esp 54 R18PN - Mina Armor.esp 55 SexyKunoichi.esp 56 slinky kunoichi.esp 57 Argent Iron Armor.esp 58 HGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp 59 DMwardropemerged.esp 5A mystery of mausoleum.esp 5B Romuska Fantasy Store.esp 5C Theryon.esp 5D Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 5E Knights.esp 5F HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 60 MaternityClothes.esp 61 TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp 62 TamagoNews.esp 63 TamagoShop.esp 64 TamagoTopic.esp 65 TamagoConfide.esp 66 LoversTamagoClub.esp 67 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 68 LoversEncounter.esp 69 HiyokoQuestTarget.esp 6A HiyokoGenerator.esp 6B TamagoSetBody.esp 6C LoversSetBody.esp 6D LoversFSE.esp 6E LoversDRader.esp 6F LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 70 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 71 LoversTachiCat2.esp 72 LoversRaperS.esp 73 LoversJoburg.esp 74 LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp 75 LoversJealousy.esp 76 LoversBed.esp 77 LoversBedNonStop.esp 78 LoversPayBandit.esp 79 LoversSlavePlay.esp 7A LoversPower.esp 7B LoversContraception.esp 7C LoversNTRburglar.esp 7D Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 7E Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 7F LoversStopCombatEx.esp 80 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 81 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp 82 LoversRapeStruggle.esp 83 LoversRapeSlave.esp 84 LoversMagicEx_0_1.esp 85 LoversSlaveTrader.esp 86 LSTBravilUnderground.esp 87 LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp 88 LoversImmoralSisters.esp 89 LoversLight.esp 8A LoversSucMP.esp 8B LoversStopSweetDeath.esp 8C LoversNiche.esp 8D NoEncumberance.esp 8E MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 8F MCS extension.esp 90 SpellSinger.esp 91 SetBody.esp 92 HumantouchNPC.esp 93 Oblivion XP.esp 94 LoversOblivionXP.esp 95 DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp 96 SP1stPLegs.esp 97 personality_idlespcb.esp 98 RGMsRealFlails.esp [Version 1.1] 99 Cazy Hairs.esp 9A babehair_EV.esp 9B Soya 4 Hair Pack - English.esp 9C Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp 9D CM Partners.esp 9E Demoness.esp 9F AIRrace Evy.esp A0 kaleen.esp A1 Kaleencolors.esp A2 Lucha's Blood Witch.esp A3 Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp [Version 1.0] A4 Nec-Character_Karla.esp [Version 1.0] A5 Nec-Character_Sonnet_Mature.esp [Version 1.0] A6 Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp A7 Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp [Version 1.0] A8 CuteElf11.esp [Version 1.3.5] A9 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp AA The Forgotten.esp AB Elves Of Lineage II.esp AC Tolkien Elves.esp [Version 1.1] ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp AD Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp AE Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp AF Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp B0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp B1 x117race.esp B2 Lop-ears Elf.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp B3 Demon Hunter.esp B4 Chocolate Elves.esp B5 Warcraftelf.esp B6 Raven Elves.esp B7 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp B8 SuccubusRace.esp B9 X.Dea.Obscura.esp BA X.Races.Comp.esp BB DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp BC Dark Raven Elves.esp BD ArimerRaceWithWings.esp BE Nona.esp BF TSS Custom Companion Template.esp C0 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp C1 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp C2 CM Partners NPC.esp C3 CM Partners More NPCs.esp C4 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp C5 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp C6 ambreskav02.esp C7 ambreskav02_default_anim.esp C8 cmAbbeyAeryn.esp C9 cmBellenia.esp CA CM PARTNER KITTY SNOW.esp CB CM Partner Elena.esp CC cmSashaSonja.esp CD CM Embla.esp CE CM_Zheane.esp CF Companion Postal Service.esp D0 companion_chocolate.esp D1 GGValeria2_0.esp D2 DAValeriaCuteElf.esp D3 DAKaleah.esp D4 Nec-Elf_Kaleah.esp [Version 1.0] D5 DALineage2Elves.esp D6 DACompilation_GO_SI_APN.esp D7 DN13_CMPartners-RavenElves.esp D8 cm_Sandy_shamikka.esp D9 CMSuccubusSS&L.esp DA cmLegacy.esp DB cmKittyCole.esp DC cmDahlia.esp DD cmAshley.esp DE CM Cris.esp DF CM Arimer.esp ++ EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp E0 xeoex.esp E1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp E2 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp E3 Lovers3dorgasm.esp E4 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp E5 Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.SoB.esp [Version 1.0] E6 Aspiria_EV.esp E7 Amy Hair.esp E8 Armory of MoM2.esp E9 ONE PIECE.esp EA Demon Lilith.esp EB Neo's Kasumi and Tina.esp EC Colourwheels Sexy Lady Outfit.esp ED ANBRedNinja.esp EE CSRBW.esp EF DMHHHarmor.esp F0 Arshes Nei Armor.esp F1 SPB DMMC Rose Set.esp F2 SPB Body Suit 2.esp F3 Pancho's Oblivion Highschool.esp F4 Colourwheels Sexy & extremely short dress.esp F5 TACMTifaLovehart.esp F6 Armored Princess.esp F7 ShevaTribal.esp F8 yangyang_HWDress.esp F9 soka.esp FA CM_Nelfs.esp FB BountyHunter.esp
gregathit Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 1. Here is what you should try to "get rid of" lovers niche. Find the original download that you installed it from (LoversNiche.7z) and either just open it to use as a guide or extract it to some temp location. You need to do this since LoversNiche has quite a few pieces. If you can't find the file just download it again. 2. Now go through your game folder and delete all the parts of LoversNiche from it. NOTE: ONLY DELETE THE ACTUAL FILES AND NOT THE ENTIRE FOLDERS OR YOUR GAME WILL BE COMPLETELY SCREWED!!! This will take some work as Niche is really spread out. 3. Now you are going to need to download and install growlf's universal skeleton. I recommend the controllable version. 4. Now download and install the lovers resource pack. (to restore the animations) 5. Now download and install the lovers base pack. (to restore the animations) 6. Now download and install the lovers extender plugin. (to restore the animations) 7. Disable all lovers esp and esm files and start the game and load your save. When it loads then hit escape and make a new save. Exit the game. 8. Enable your lovers plugins and start oblivion and use your newly created clean save.
scorcher64 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Posted August 12, 2012 It's just as I feared. The same thing continues to happen. When it came time to make a new save at step 7, I get the CTD.
gregathit Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 Ok, try one more thing: Did you rebuild your bashed patch with lovers niche and all its parts deleted? If that doesn't get you anywhere, you may indeed have to start a new game. You can quickly get back to where you where quest wise by using the console cheats to complete quests and up your skills.
scorcher64 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Posted August 12, 2012 Just got done trying with the rebuilt bashed patch. Same issue. Guess I'll just have to start over. Thanks for your help anyway.
GMac2021 Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 TL;DR Follows: To me it looks like you need to run BOSS. You've got armors listed where no armors should ever be, err.... listed. BOSS may not recognize some of your armor mods, but those esps should all be placed waaaay up at the top with the rest of the clothing mods. What harm can an armor mod do? A lot. One unclean mod - no matter how small - can destroy your game and savefile. Particularly if that esp gets "Bashed" into your "Patch". You only ever need one armor / clothing esp. One thing I do now that has not failed me yet, is to put all of my Lover's mods below my bashed patch (except for the ones that need to be merged...) No Lover's mods ever get included in my BP. When I read your post, it sounded like a Bashed Patch issue... As well, I highly recommend adding all of the clothes and armors you download to a single esp. I created a simple "store", and everytime I download a new outfit, I add it to my store. Having a lot of single purpose esps can mess things up real fast. I once downloaded a CM companion mod that actually spun Divine Elegance around about 45 degrees (Hi, Urrl!) It does not take much to screw up this game. I do not use CM Companions anymore because of this. And I never will. A bunch of random CM Companions + 100 Clothing and Armor mods == Reinstall. You can turn 100 armor esps into one esp in an hour or so. You could probably merge your CM Partners, as well. (I strip CM dependancy off them and give them better AI, so I'm not 100% sure about this... I don't use it...) I am NO-WHERE NEAR the authority GregAtHit is. By following his advice to the letter (and by using Donkey's old load order...) I finally have a game that works - although a LOT Nexus downloads try their best to break it. I'm not familiar with Lover's Niche, though. I don't install anything anymore until after I've gone through the file structure and made sure nothing conflicts. It takes a bit of time, but its a lot quicker than re-installing everything... Edit: I put this post in a spoiler for people who don't like Walls 'O Text...
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