Golgo13 Posted October 8, 2017 Posted October 8, 2017 In my previous game, I started crashing to desktop whenever I entered Dawnstar somewhere in the middle of my game. I thought it might be a fluke-- I wasn't using any mods I hadn't used in the past. That was one of the reasons that I eventually gave up on that game. I'd worked around similar CTD's, like one I often encounter moving south out of Dragon Bridge; but, I just plain couldn't access Dawnstar, at all, after I'd obtained the Mehrune's Razor quest. In my instant game, I can't even enter Dawnstar that first time. I installed Cursed Loot/Captured Dreams for this play-through to break up the monotony; although they are relatively new mods to me, I wasn't using them in my previous game in which Dawnstar was similarly denied to me. I can't play this game without Dawnstar-- Captured Dreams sent my 'toon there on her first quest. How can I fix this? Which mod(s) (if any) have to go? I used NMM, Loot, Wrye Bash, etc. The following is my load order: GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1hdtHighHeel.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1SexLab.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1CreatureFramework.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1SexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=1HighResTexturePack02.esp=1HighResTexturePack03.esp=1FNIS.esp=1The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp=1KS Hairdo's.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1UIExtensions.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1XPMSE.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1Skyrim Bridges.esp=1Skyrim Graveyards.esp=1SLKidnapped.esp=1Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp=0SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1SeranaLearnsSoulCairnSpells.esp=112FemaleBrows.esp=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp=1StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp=1SLAnimLoader.esp=1SLALAnimObj.esp=1NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1DW.esp=1zzEstrus.esp=1Wa Ribbon.esp=1OwOHW1.esp=1non-devious devices.esp=1_ImoMegane.esp=1Qasmoke Travel Spell.esp=1Angelic_Demonic.esp=1calyps-animal-ears.esp=1Bandanas of Skyrim.esp=1Cassandra Frost Witch.esp=1EstrusChaurus.esp=1SimplyKnock.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1NewVampChainsGloves.esp=1NewVampChainsCuirass.esp=1Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp=1AncientDraugr.esp=1FS_AngelsInSkyrim.esp=1EdhildilsDwarvencyborg.esp=1shut up dogs.esp=0SexLab Trainers.esp=1SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp=1ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp=0SexLabTools.esp=1LindsMerEyes.esp=1TL_BareArmor.esp=1TL_FakeCloth.esp=1MoreNastyCritters.esp=1LBackpackAll.esp=1Pentagram.esp=1Night Eye Ring.esp=1VampireJewelry.esp=1CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp=1Helena Succubus.esp=1Priestess of Dibella.esp=1EngineerOutfit.esp=1Revealing Ebony Nocturna.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1SlaveTats.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp=0ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=0ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1Hott Vampires 2.esp=1Updated Harkon and Valerica.esp=0BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp=1BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp=1WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp=1WyldMenuPlugMale.esp=1AddItemMenu2.esp=1pchsImmersivePlugs.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1Captured Dreams.esp=1Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp=1SexLab-Stories.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1HentaiCreatures.esp=1SexLab More Creatures.esp=1SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp=1sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1Deviously Cursed Loot.esp=1fallentreebridges.esp=1Celes Nightingale Armor.esp=1SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_CCOR.esp=0TradeBarter.esp=1Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1Key20 - Chastity.esp=1FollowerCiceria.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1SimpleSlavery.esp=1Immersive Wenches.esp=1SexLab_Dialogues.esp=1SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1Babette Replacer.esp=1Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp=0TimingIsEverything.esp=1Devious Cidhna.esp=1CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp=1SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp=1FalmerBikini.esp=1SexLab Eager NPCs.esp=1Devious Deviants.esp=1SteelPlateBikini.esp=1BandedIronBikini.esp=1DragonBoneBikini.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1Dwarvenbikini.esp=1Wolfbikini.esp=1SteelBikini.esp=1BladesBikini.esp=1Merta Black Rose Armor.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1Northern Priestess - EX.esp=1Crude Anal Toys.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1Faction Crossbows.esp=1Merta Assassin Armor.esp=1DaedraHuntress.esp=1VampireSunAmulets.esp=1Zarias_Piercings1.esp=1Dancing Shadow Rose.esp=1CinematicFireFX.esp=1HDT Piercingsets.esp=1AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp=0AFT_NoDances.esp=1Sleep for Credit.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1ccas_starts.esp=1ImmerSlave.esp=1Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 Papyrus log attached. 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Alpia Posted October 8, 2017 Posted October 8, 2017 well since its all about that location deactivate or better uninstall mods that put something into dawnstar (new houses, npc's, followers etc. maybe even captured dreams if a npc is there from a quest) start a new game test it and then test it on your old savegame. I doubt somebody can tell you why you crash at this specific location. Be open about what mods you could try to uninstall to test it I had a similar issue with a player home that was located halfway between ivarstead and rifton still I crashed whenever I stepped outside of rifton or moved about a particular border from ivarstead to rifton. Cursed loot adds a house and npcs there, captured dreams send you to a quest there that sure adds npc's to the location. Maybe a bridge from that bridge mod or a graveyard from that graveyard mod that clashes with something else, just be "creative" what could be the culprit if there is no obvious mod that specificly adds something. Other then that did you try to finish the quest with console commands to see if you can "skip" your error if its really related to that quest? "Pieces of the Past" DA07 Queststages and console command in the spoiler In the console "Setstage DA07 >Stage<" stages are as seen blow and the best is to do one stage after another and remember at the end to only set the stage with the ending you like to choose. 10 Silus Vesuius, the owner of a museum dedicated to the Mythic Dawn cult, wants to hire me for a job. He'll give me the details inside his house in Dawnstar. Objective 10: Speak to Silus inside his house 13 Silus Vesuius is offering me gold to retrieve the three pieces of Mehrunes' Razor from their current owners. Drascua has the pommel, Ghunzul has the blade shards, and Jorgen has the hilt. Objective 11: Retrieve the pommel of Mehrunes' Razor Objective 12: Retrieve the blade shards of Mehrunes' Razor Objective 14: Retrieve the hilt of Mehrunes' Razor 20 Objective 20: Bring the pommel stone to Silus 30 Objective 22: Bring the blade shards to Silus 40 Objective 24: Bring the hilt to Silus 50 Silus Vesuius now has all three pieces of Mehrunes' Razor and wants me to help him reforge it at the Shrine of Mehrunes Dagon. Objective 30: Meet Silus at the Shrine of Mehrunes Dagon 60 Objective 40: Speak to Mehrunes Dagon 70 Mehrunes Dagon has asked me to kill Silus Vesuius. I will be given the reforged Razor if I succeed. Objective 50: Kill Silus 80 I have killed Silus Vesuius for Mehrunes Dagon. I should speak to the Lord of Destruction through his altar. Objective 60: Speak to Mehrunes Dagon 90 Mehrunes Dagon has promised to reforge his Razor if I place my hands on his altar. Objective 70: Reforge Mehrunes' Razor 95 Objective 75: Claim Mehrunes' Razor 100 Silus is dead and Mehrunes' Razor is mine. 150 I refused to kill Silus for Mehrunes Dagon. The Razor is forever out of my grasp. 200 Silus is dead. Whatever plans he had have died with him. Other then that I cant think of a solution.
Golgo13 Posted October 8, 2017 Author Posted October 8, 2017 I didn't have any mods that added anything to Dawnstar in my previous game, unless you count some Immersive Wenches that were sprinkled in there as in everywhere else... and I've played with that mod many times with no problem getting into Dawnstar. This was the first game I ever played with Captured Dreams installed; if it caused my crash this time, it certainly wasn't causing it the last time. Do you see any mod in that load order that could be adding anything hinky to Dawnstar that may not have occurred to me? I can't make heads or tails out of those Papyrus logs. I was hoping that someone might be able to see in there what was going on as the game crashed. Idk if this is related to anything; but, every time I run Wrye Bash, I receive a message like this: argument for 's' must be a string<bash.brec.ModWriter instance at 0x23052CB0> SNAM 4s (0,) Some clown deleted all of the programs on my C: Drive when they were supposed to be fixing it, and ever since I had to reinstall EVERYTHING, that box has popped up when I create bashed files. I haven't noticed any real effect; but, it has bothered me, since I don't know what it signifies. Anyway, thanks for replying. Even if I make no progress, at all, I appreciate people's time.
Reesewow Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 The papyrus log doesn't really say anything specific about the crash, which is typical for what you described since whatever is crashing your game is probably doing it as soon as it starts to load, so nothing shows up in the papyrus log. You do have some weird errors in there about an Immersive Wenches character having no AI (ID FF0011d5). Cursed Loot does add a building to Dawnstar, altho I can't imagine that is your issue specifically. What you can do is start a new game with the same load order, and as soon as you get out of the alternate start cell teleport to Dawnstar with the console. If you crash, something in your load order is causing it, like a corrupted armor or a skeleton problem. If you don't crash, something in your save game has corrupted the Dawnstar cell OR it is a similar issue to #1 but is something that gets added to Dawnstar randomly, and other than guessing or removing mods and testing it out you might be hosed. On my first major playthrough that ended up at level 96 or so, I had at least 3 "dead zones" that would cause CTDs but was lucky enough that they were mostly in the wilderness and avoidable (one was a mountain pass, another was the exterior of Nightgate Inn). I was brutal to that save file with lots of installing and uninstalling of mods however, so was probably lucky it was still playable.
Neppi Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 Since this thread appears on google when searching for CTD Dawnstar and I had a similar issue and managed to solve it, I'll take the liberty to write down the repair process for other people finding this thread in google in the future. My game crashed as soon as I came near the cell of Dawmstar, no matter if I was on foot or did fast travel. This issue didnt occur until I collected the pieces for "Pieces of the Past" Quest. Thanks to many backups I can say the crashes started as soon as I collected the blade shards in Morthal, which was also my last of the three quest items required for progression. So I cant say 100% if its an issue with the blade shards in Morthal itself or the quest itself after obtaining all three pieces. What did I do to fix it? I installed Resaver and cleaned my savefile (unattached script instances and undefined elements). Then I opened xedit and cleaned Upgrade.esm and all the DLC esm one after the other. After that I cleaned Dawnguard.esm again. Then I proceeded to clean some mods which Loot told me to clean. These were in my case: Amazing Follower Tweaks, RSChildren, Inigo, Immersive Citizen and Joy of Perspective. I did not change the load order during that process whatsoever. After that I was able to travel to Dawnguard again. FYI: Before I fixed the issue I could move the camera with tfc to Dawnguard from far away and I would see a lot of flickering. This flickering has no disappeared. I still am not exactly sure what causes this issue together with that particular quest. But yeah, I hope this helps someone.
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