Arch Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 Just re downloaded all the mods here still had an AIO from a while ago that I downloaded from here that had mods I couldnt find not sure if its an version difference but yea. heres what I got   Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm Lovers with PK.esm MathFunctions.esm BreakUndies.esm ZMCPlayerSlaveCore.esm LoversCreature.esm bgMagicEVNoSorting.esp bgMagicEV.esp bgMagicEVStartspells.esp bgMagicItemSigil.esp bgMagicEVNoSummonGlow.esp bgMagicBonus.esp bgMagicEVShader.esp bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp bgMagicAlchemy.esp bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp bgMagicEVAddEnVarNoSI.esp bgMagicLightningbolt.esp bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp MaternityClothes.esp bgMagicEVStartspellsNoSorting.esp bgMagicEVNoSpellLight.esp TamagoPlayerHUD.esp TamagoBreak.esp bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoConfide.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoBadEnd.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoQuestTarget.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversSetBody.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversRapeman.esp LoversSummonRapeman.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp LoversJealousy.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp LoversBrothel.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversRapeStruggle.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultYield.esp LoversMagic.esp LoversUnicorn.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp SetBody.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversLight.esp LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversHideMenus.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp LoversBackup2.esp HentaiDarkLilith.esp SBLethalMajestyStandAloneRetex.esp DarkIllusionArmor.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp VipCxjHHTest.esp FEZA Vesta Set.esp Sexy Light Blackwood Armor.esp R18PN - Mina Armor.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv1.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors for BUv2.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp Tona Compilation.esp Hentai_LilyClothes.esp Notused_Leather.esp Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp LittleCarmine.esp Hentai Mania.esp ArcaneWarrior.esp Specialanims.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp Diablorobe.esp Mai's Clothes.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversSkirtFlipper.esp 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp LoversCrowningIsle.esp LoversGGBlackmail.esp ZMCPlayerSlaveBasicUsage.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Knights.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp TestBrute.esp    Any Help would be awesome
gregathit Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 Go back and make certain you have thoroughly read the bg magic readme and instructions. Pretty sure you can't have both bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp and bgMagicEVAddEnVarNoSI.esp at the same time. Make certain that you have only what you need and no duplicates. Â Again, learn to read the readme instructions: MH Papimeru Armor for BUv1.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp and MH Harvest Melan Armors.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors for BUv2.esp You can't run both versions of this stuff at the same time. If you can't take the time to read the instructions then you should not install the mods. You are never going to get anything to work right and just irritate folks because you are wasting their time. It may "seem" like I am being harsh with you but this will in fact help you! Once you sort out all the nonsense then folks will feel better about helping you solve real issues. Â As to your lovers load order. Again, why ask for help when a very simple and easy thread that you should have read is stickied right at the top of this forum? It has a working load order for lovers right in it. Link in case you missed it: http://www.loverslab.com/Forum-Technical-Support--35 Â Sort out the easy stuff on your end and if you still have trouble then come on back and we will help you fine tune or work out any remaining issues.
Arch Posted August 8, 2012 Author Posted August 8, 2012 Go back and make certain you have thoroughly read the bg magic readme and instructions. Pretty sure you can't have both bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp and bgMagicEVAddEnVarNoSI.esp at the same time. Make certain that you have only what you need and no duplicates. Â Again' date=' learn to read the readme instructions: MH Papimeru Armor for BUv1.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp and MH Harvest Melan Armors.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors for BUv2.esp You can't run both versions of this stuff at the same time. If you can't take the time to read the instructions then you should not install the mods. You are never going to get anything to work right and just irritate folks because you are wasting their time. It may "seem" like I am being harsh with you but this will in fact help you! Once you sort out all the nonsense then folks will feel better about helping you solve real issues. Â As to your lovers load order. Again, why ask for help when a very simple and easy thread that you should have read is stickied right at the top of this forum? It has a working load order for lovers right in it. Link in case you missed it: http://www.loverslab.com/Forum-Technical-Support--35 Â Sort out the easy stuff on your end and if you still have trouble then come on back and we will help you fine tune or work out any remaining issues. [/quote'] Â Â I actually dont have that all both on at the same time and messed with turning tings off before I posted this. also I did go through your read this before you post load order before hand. I've tried just about everything except deleted and starting all over... again. also only reason I have the bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp type files is because a mod said it required it. so I dont know to much about them yet due to the fact I was trying to use it as fix to the problem.
gregathit Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 Well, if you had read that thread then you would not have both of these: LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp running at the same time, nor would you have lovers files underneath: LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp  If you did read it, then you ignored it and it is a waste of time to help you if you are going to ignore the instructions.  You also need to read the threads for LoversCrowningIsle.esp (among many others) as it clearly states not to use many of the lovers plugins with it (like joburg).  You also prior to installing the lovers plugins should have run BOSS or at least looked at other load orders to see that you should never have the official dlc so low in your load order. At this point BOSS will do more harm than help with all the lovers plugins since it doesn't have a clue where to put them.  Here is a thread that contains many different sample load orders: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=9598  I am happy to help you but I will not repeat things that are right here at your fingertips, as this won't "really" help you. You have got to learn to read and understand what you are installing and why or you are going to get into a massive train wreck.  I can't tell you positively on the two bgmagic deals but I think you need to read up a bit more on them. generally a noSI version is for those who "don't have" SI. You do have SI - you just have it too darn low in your load order. I don't know if you are aware of how mods for oblivion work: 1. In cases of conflict the lowest mod in your load order "wins". 2. Many mods require other mods to function. A mod that requires another mod generally lists that mod as a "master" and "master" files generally must be above their dependents in your load order or........CTD. There are some exceptions but generally speaking this is true. 3. Load order, load order, load order....it is critical for oblivion. A bad load order will cause untold havoc. Understand what the requirements are before installing and make sure you have thoroughly read the readme files. If there are no readme files then look at the descriptions page. Most mods here contain the readme information in the OP (opening/original post).
Arch Posted August 8, 2012 Author Posted August 8, 2012 Well' date=' if you had read that thread then you would not have both of these: LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp running at the same time, nor would you have lovers files underneath: LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp  If you did read it, then you ignored it and it is a waste of time to help you if you are going to ignore the instructions.  You also need to read the threads for LoversCrowningIsle.esp (among many others) as it clearly states not to use many of the lovers plugins with it (like joburg).  You also prior to installing the lovers plugins should have run BOSS or at least looked at other load orders to see that you should never have the official dlc so low in your load order. At this point BOSS will do more harm than help with all the lovers plugins since it doesn't have a clue where to put them.  Here is a thread that contains many different sample load orders: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=9598  I am happy to help you but I will not repeat things that are right here at your fingertips, as this won't "really" help you. You have got to learn to read and understand what you are installing and why or you are going to get into a massive train wreck.  I can't tell you positively on the two bgmagic deals but I think you need to read up a bit more on them. generally a noSI version is for those who "don't have" SI. You do have SI - you just have it too darn low in your load order. I don't know if you are aware of how mods for oblivion work: 1. In cases of conflict the lowest mod in your load order "wins". 2. Many mods require other mods to function. A mod that requires another mod generally lists that mod as a "master" and "master" files generally must be above their dependents in your load order or........CTD. There are some exceptions but generally speaking this is true. 3. Load order, load order, load order....it is critical for oblivion. A bad load order will cause untold havoc. Understand what the requirements are before installing and make sure you have thoroughly read the readme files. If there are no readme files then look at the descriptions page. Most mods here contain the readme information in the OP (opening/original post). [/quote']  Thank you I actually had a feeling about the APP and APP-SSP I had them both off but I honestly didnt even realize the CrowningIsle.esp... as for the Lover files underneath I really wasn't sure where they were supposed to so I left them my fault on that. you've givin me a direction here I'm gonna mess with it some more. One of the things that really bothered me about my load order is I went through the quick guide to install the Beautiful People 2ch, But If you notice the load order you posted I don't have the Custom race etc and my file wasnt 336mb like it said it was it was only 305mb so Not to sure whats wrong there unless I run them in OBMM seperatly instead of trying to combine them. As for BOSS I'm usually good about using that I just had this running prior to Lovers no longer working with out it so It slipped my mind. I'll fix some of this and mess with somethings and see what happens. thanks again.
gregathit Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 No problem. Â Once you have tweaked things if you still have issues post a revised load order along with what issues you still have and we can figure it out.
Arch Posted August 9, 2012 Author Posted August 9, 2012 No problem.  Once you have tweaked things if you still have issues post a revised load order along with what issues you still have and we can figure it out.  Alright... Got boss got the userlist file from another thread, re-matched everything up with your load order under this thread area and this is what I hav.    Oblivion.esm MathFunctions.esm UndiesUnderneath.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm x117race.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm ZMCPlayerSlaveCore.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp VipCxjHHTest.esp DarkIllusionArmor.esp FEZA Vesta Set.esp HentaiDarkLilith.esp Hentai_LilyClothes.esp LittleCarmine.esp Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp UU_Female_Undies.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp R18PN - Mina Armor.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Hentai Mania.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp MaternityClothes.esp TamagoPlayerHUD.esp TamagoBreak.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoQuestTarget.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversSetBody.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversRapeman.esp LoversSummonRapeman.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversJealousy.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp LoversBrothel.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversRapeStruggle.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultYield.esp LoversMagic.esp LoversUnicorn.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp SetBody.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversLight.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp LoversSkirtFlipper.esp LoversHideMenus.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp Tona Compilation.esp Specialanims.esp bgMagicEV.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversGGBlackmail.esp Sexy Light Blackwood Armor.esp SBLethalMajestyStandAloneRetex.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors for BUv2.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv1.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp Notused_Leather.esp ArcaneWarrior.esp Mai's Clothes.esp Diablorobe.esp ZMCPlayerSlaveBasicUsage.esp TestBrute.esp LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp   I've turned off a lot of my earlier stuff and have played with things on and off a bit but still crashing before game even says Bethesda.
gregathit Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Pick one or the other based on what version of BU Framework you are running: MH Papimeru Armor for BUv1.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp and MH Harvest Melan Armors for BUv2.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors.esp  Disable these two: LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp They can't be enabled. You have to merge them into a bashed patch and leave them disabled. If you don't want to make a bashed patch then you can't use them.  You are missing some MBP files. You have to install MBP 1.4a or 1.8 and then MBP++ v98a and MBP++ choco addon to use bravil underground and many of the other lovers plugins.  Also have you installed pluggy 132 correctly and renamed it? Have you installed MenuQue?  If the above don't stop the crashes then it is time to do things the old fashioned way. Disable all your mods except the official dlc and oblivion.esm and see if you can start the game. If that works then add back plugins a few at a time to see what is causing you to crash.
Arch Posted August 9, 2012 Author Posted August 9, 2012 Pick one or the other based on what version of BU Framework you are running: MH Papimeru Armor for BUv1.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp and MH Harvest Melan Armors for BUv2.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors.esp  Disable these two: LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp They can't be enabled. You have to merge them into a bashed patch and leave them disabled. If you don't want to make a bashed patch then you can't use them.  You are missing some MBP files. You have to install MBP 1.4a or 1.8 and then MBP++ v98a and MBP++ choco addon to use bravil underground and many of the other lovers plugins.  Also have you installed pluggy 132 correctly and renamed it? Have you installed MenuQue?  If the above don't stop the crashes then it is time to do things the old fashioned way. Disable all your mods except the official dlc and oblivion.esm and see if you can start the game. If that works then add back plugins a few at a time to see what is causing you to crash.  Okay what do I have to rename pluggy to?  Yes I have MenuQue and Pluggy, must of turned on the BUv1,2 etc on again by mistake re-started to verify wasn't that.. (sadly)   I have to install MBP 1.8 and MBP++ v98a and MBP++ choco but for some reason I dont have some of the files like Customrace.esp etc I need to attempt to figure that out got no clue there (went off the directions posted some where around here.)  I'll mess with (again) everything above and get back to you.
gregathit Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Rename the pluggy dll in your OBSE folder to OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll
Arch Posted August 11, 2012 Author Posted August 11, 2012 Here is my new load order I got it to start the game apparently BGMagics and TestBrute were causing all my problems... I had to go mod by mod. so I can start the game but now when I select new game after it loards when it would start the opening vid it crashes.  At least I've gotten farther this time.   Oblivion.esm MathFunctions.esm UndiesUnderneath.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm x117race.esm Chanpon.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm ZMCPlayerSlaveCore.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp VipCxjHHTest.esp DarkIllusionArmor.esp FEZA Vesta Set.esp HentaiDarkLilith.esp Hentai_LilyClothes.esp LittleCarmine.esp Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp UU_Female_Undies.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp R18PN - Mina Armor.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Hentai Mania.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp MaternityClothes.esp TamagoPlayerHUD.esp TamagoBreak.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversEncounter.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp HiyokoQuestTarget.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversSetBody.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversRapeman.esp LoversSummonRapeman.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversRaperSGalgat.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp LoversJealousy.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp LoversBrothel.esp LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversRapeStruggle.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultYield.esp LoversMagic.esp LoversUnicorn.esp LoversLight.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp LoversSkirtFlipper.esp LoversHideMenus.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp Tona Compilation.esp SetBody.esp Specialanims.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp x117race.esp x117Race ENG Race.esp Lop-ears Elf.esp Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversGGBlackmail.esp TamagoBadEnd.esp Sexy Light Blackwood Armor.esp SBLethalMajestyStandAloneRetex.esp MH Harvest Melan Armors for BUv2.esp MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp Notused_Leather.esp ArcaneWarrior.esp Mai's Clothes.esp  Â
Arch Posted August 11, 2012 Author Posted August 11, 2012 Scratch that Let me redo my load order forgot I hadn't re-verified it all again since I ran BOSS again.
icecold29 Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 Before coming to LL and learning about load order and conflicts... I used TES4EDIT its description says advanced conflict detector and plugin editor... whenever game crashes on boot i just launch TES4EDIT and let it load my plugins... It will give a message as error loading plugin... just scroll down its log and see what was the last plugin loaded... and error message usually like Missing master, plugin cannot load before its master and such... just act accordingly... your game will start if TES4EDIT is able to launch successfully so will OBSE too... now to properly play plugin confilicts needs to be resolved via load order, but between BOSS and TES4EDIT i nearly played most of the plugins at nexus... I wonder how i survived for so long.. without knowing anything about load orders and conflicts... Cheers...
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