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Aesthete

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Aesthete

Aesthete

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I am having CTD any time a spriggan moves near me.  This is 100% replicable any time there is a moving/attacking spriggan, spriggan matron, etc. including burnt spriggans.  If I see the spriggan before it moves, I can console kill it, and the CTD doesn't happen.  It also doesn't happen if the spriggan is standing still.  The CTD doesn't happen with any other creatures.

 

I am fairly certain this is not a Creature Framework, MNC, or SLNC issue as I've removed those mods, cleaned the save, purged overwrite\meshes\actors, and re-run FNIS.  Still get the issue.

 

I thought maybe it was a spell mod mucking with the spriggans' spell effects, so I tried disabling Apocalypse and More Apocalypse.  That wasn't it.

 

It appears to be some kind of bad save data, maybe--I can coc qasmoke, console placeatme a spriggan, and don't have any problems.  But I want to fix the issue instead of start over.  I have tried all the things in Save Cleaner, but to no effect.

 

EDIT: Using MO and FNIS.  Load order sorted with LOOT.

 

Load order:

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
SexLab.esm
PubicMeshColorRE.esm
Havok Breast Physic.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Heels Sound.esm
BSAssets.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
SharedSeranaDialogue.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
BSHeartland.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp
AemersRefuge.esm
BS_DLC_patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp
10magelight5min.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp
UnenchantedTGArmors.esp
BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
CiriOutfit.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
UIExtensions.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
Brows.esp
NoRadialBlur.esp
HDT Maid Outfit.esp
SexyEveningDress.esp
NS_Eilhart_Dress.esp
LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
AFT_NoDances.esp
ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
BSHeartland - Textures.esp
Convenient Horses Bruma Patch 5.0.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
JaxonzLightsPlease.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
EnchantedArsenal.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp
Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
CailinFollower.esp
Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Havok Breast Physic.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Aetherial Crown with Headgear.esp
Beards.esp
zzArmormashups.esp
AddItemMenu2.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
XPMSE.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
FNIS.esp
Footprints.esp
RealShelter.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp
RevampedExteriorFog.esp
TrueStorms.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
FreckleMania.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
Babette.esp
Galanterie.esp
FISS.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp
SexLabWerewolves.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
HoodsAndCirclets.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
ImmersiveCheatMenu.esp
CharmingHighHeels.esp
ImmersiveSpells.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
VSCiriProjectTW3.esp
Amalteya.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
Toccata as Elisif.esp
KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
KS Wigs NonHDT.esp
Stalhrim Hood.esp
KSWigsHDT.esp
MCMCustomOrder.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
Maevan2EyeBrows.esp
MikanEyes All in one.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-BS-Patch.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
OCR-Fixes.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks MCM.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
SC_hairs.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
sr_ifpssl.esp
Serana.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLAnimSpeed.esp
ScarletDawnArmor.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
SexLab Submit Serana.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
HDT Maid Outfit Slot Change.esp
Cloaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Black Viper's Will.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Complete Pack.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Atlas Legendary OCS.esp
GriptzionTeleportMenuSpell.esp
Dragon Lilly.esp
hillinalta2.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
SexLabTools.esp
SkyUI.esp
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
Skyrim Ladies - Astrid.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
SolitudeExterior.esp
Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
TGLNordArmor.esp
Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
The Paarthurnax Ultimatum.esp
TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
TrissDress.esp
TwoRapiers.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Vivace.esp
WMFSEllindiaFollower.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
WhiterunExterior.esp
R18pn - lingerie Set.esp
Gwelda Armor Pack.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
_ImoMegane.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
emerald.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
The Ordinary Women.esp
DawnguardArsenal.esp
Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp
Teleport.esp
AemersRefuge-DG-DB.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
Chaconne.esp
Merta Assassin Armor.esp
Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
Billyro's Weapons.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
DA_Skyship.esp
Nemain.esp
FemaleBriarHearts.esp
Minerva.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
Nerida.esp
NeridaHeelsOutfit.esp
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
Teleport-DG Plugin.esp
Teleport-DB Plugin.esp
Tirashan.esp
adventurerMashupComp.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
HavenBag.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
TheLily.esp
Emfy Cleric Robes.esp
HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
ESO Altmer Armor by NewrMind43.esp
MonnoBikini.esp
Neo's Selene.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
The Ordinary Women - USLEEP.esp
Valerica.esp
MatureSkinComplexions.esp
SRfreckles.esp
Stella.esp
MindiFollower.esp
TCoW Improvement.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
IB - All-in-One.esp
FemaleWerewolf.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
RSPatch.esp
getSnowy.esp
TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
Open Cities Skyrim.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
DynDOLOD.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
EveryBody's Different.esp

 

 

Crash dump:

 

 

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Windows 8 Version 15063 MP (4 procs) Free x86 compatible
Product: WinNt, suite: SingleUserTS
kernel32.dll version: 10.0.15063.246 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Machine Name:
Debug session time: Mon Aug 14 10:58:03.000 2017 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: not available
Process Uptime: 0 days 0:04:50.000
Kernel time: 0 days 0:00:36.000
User time: 0 days 0:05:04.000
TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\oca.ini, error 2
TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\winxp\triage.ini, error 2
TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\user.ini, error 2
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* Exception Analysis *
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TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\guids.ini, error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for d3d9.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for d3d9.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for hdtHighHeelNative.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for hdtHighHeelNative.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for JContainers.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for JContainers.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for XAudio2_6.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for atiumdag.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for atiumdag.dll
TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\modclass.ini, error 2
GetUrlPageData2 (WinHttp) failed: 12029.
*** The OS name list needs to be updated! Unknown Windows version: 10.0 ***

FAULTING_IP:
TESV+7a65f5
00ba65f5 8b01 mov eax,dword ptr [ecx]

EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 00ba65f5 (TESV+0x007a65f5)
ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
Parameter[0]: 00000000
Parameter[1]: 00000000
Attempt to read from address 00000000

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: NULL_POINTER_READ

PROCESS_NAME: TESV.exe

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".

EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 00000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: 00000000

READ_ADDRESS: 00000000

FOLLOWUP_IP:
TESV+7a65f5
00ba65f5 8b01 mov eax,dword ptr [ecx]

FAULTING_THREAD: 000020c0

PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS: NULL_POINTER_READ

BUGCHECK_STR: APPLICATION_FAULT_NULL_POINTER_READ

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 00000000 to 00ba65f5

STACK_TEXT:
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 TESV+0x7a65f5


SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0

SYMBOL_NAME: TESV+7a65f5

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: TESV

IMAGE_NAME: TESV.exe

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 51437ce5

STACK_COMMAND: ~35s; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: NULL_POINTER_READ_c0000005_TESV.exe!Unknown

BUCKET_ID: APPLICATION_FAULT_NULL_POINTER_READ_TESV+7a65f5

WATSON_STAGEONE_URL: http://watson.microsoft.com/StageOne/TESV_exe/1_9_32_0/51437ce5/TESV_exe/1_9_32_0/51437ce5/c0000005/007a65f5.htm?Retriage=1

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allsunday

allsunday

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I would check meshes/actors folder and delete all files that you might have for Spriggans then Steam verify file integrity for Skyrim to recover any missing data... you may have to clean plugins again with TESVedit but it's a small price to pay. Then run FNIS before testing.

 

Note: since you're using MO and I don't know where it likes to create mod files for its many profile options, you'll have to look there instead.

 

I had to restart a game after 2,000 hours. No big deal. Gave me an opportunity to finally take Requiem for a spin. Totally worth it.

Nazzzgul666

Nazzzgul666

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There is only one folder for all profiles: the mod folder.

 

That's nice.

 

Sometimes i whish it would be different, if you deal with different profiles you'll always see all mods installed for any profile. Which can be confusing ;)

But technical it's pretty nice, yes.

allsunday

allsunday

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Posted

 

 

There is only one folder for all profiles: the mod folder.

 

That's nice.

 

Sometimes i whish it would be different, if you deal with different profiles you'll always see all mods installed for any profile. Which can be confusing wink.png

But technical it's pretty nice, yes.

 

 

That reminds me another good reason why I don't use MO.  Too much unnecessary confusion just to solve simple problems.  :-)

Nazzzgul666

Nazzzgul666

Posted
Posted

 

 

 

There is only one folder for all profiles: the mod folder.

 

That's nice.

 

Sometimes i whish it would be different, if you deal with different profiles you'll always see all mods installed for any profile. Which can be confusing wink.png

But technical it's pretty nice, yes.

 

 

That reminds me another good reason why I don't use MO.  Too much unnecessary confusion just to solve simple problems.  :-)

 

Well, you don't need to use 10 different profiles. It's just an option NMM doesn't have^^

Sometimes i leave a profile for a new game to play other/updated mods and 6 months later i wish i could go back, but then i can't remember which mods and which versions i used... but it's not like NMM would offer any better options for that. ;)

I guess i could make a backup of the mod folder if i want to leave a profile for a while, but usually i'm too lazy. So what i use in general is one profile for playing and one to test alpha/beta mods to see if they work, give feedback and if they might fit into my main game. With two profiles it's not really a problem as long as you name the beta versions properly. Although often enough my main game depends a lot on beta mods either. ;) I don't really care about doing the main story, often actually avoid it to learn that i'm dragonborn and just play the adult mods.

So... everytime i find something doesn't work i may finish the mod and then start a new game anyways.

allsunday

allsunday

Posted
Posted

 

 

 

 

There is only one folder for all profiles: the mod folder.

 

That's nice.

 

Sometimes i whish it would be different, if you deal with different profiles you'll always see all mods installed for any profile. Which can be confusing wink.png

But technical it's pretty nice, yes.

 

 

That reminds me another good reason why I don't use MO.  Too much unnecessary confusion just to solve simple problems.  :-)

 

Well, you don't need to use 10 different profiles. It's just an option NMM doesn't have^^

Sometimes i leave a profile for a new game to play other/updated mods and 6 months later i wish i could go back, but then i can't remember which mods and which versions i used... but it's not like NMM would offer any better options for that. wink.png

I guess i could make a backup of the mod folder if i want to leave a profile for a while, but usually i'm too lazy. So what i use in general is one profile for playing and one to test alpha/beta mods to see if they work, give feedback and if they might fit into my main game. With two profiles it's not really a problem as long as you name the beta versions properly. Although often enough my main game depends a lot on beta mods either. wink.png I don't really care about doing the main story, often actually avoid it to learn that i'm dragonborn and just play the adult mods.

So... everytime i find something doesn't work i may finish the mod and then start a new game anyways.

 

 

LOL!  Most people don't enjoy starting all over just because they can't solve a problem.  But good for you though.  

Nazzzgul666

Nazzzgul666

Posted
Posted

 

 

 

 

 

There is only one folder for all profiles: the mod folder.

 

That's nice.

 

Sometimes i whish it would be different, if you deal with different profiles you'll always see all mods installed for any profile. Which can be confusing wink.png

But technical it's pretty nice, yes.

 

 

That reminds me another good reason why I don't use MO.  Too much unnecessary confusion just to solve simple problems.  :-)

 

Well, you don't need to use 10 different profiles. It's just an option NMM doesn't have^^

Sometimes i leave a profile for a new game to play other/updated mods and 6 months later i wish i could go back, but then i can't remember which mods and which versions i used... but it's not like NMM would offer any better options for that. wink.png

I guess i could make a backup of the mod folder if i want to leave a profile for a while, but usually i'm too lazy. So what i use in general is one profile for playing and one to test alpha/beta mods to see if they work, give feedback and if they might fit into my main game. With two profiles it's not really a problem as long as you name the beta versions properly. Although often enough my main game depends a lot on beta mods either. wink.png I don't really care about doing the main story, often actually avoid it to learn that i'm dragonborn and just play the adult mods.

So... everytime i find something doesn't work i may finish the mod and then start a new game anyways.

 

 

LOL!  Most people don't enjoy starting all over just because they can't solve a problem.  But good for you though.  

 

Well, every time is exaggerated but once you get stack dumps and your scripts are broken there is little choice. You could try to reinstall the mods, but i'd need to start from scratch then, pointless for quest mods. That way i don't have to bother how script heavy my game is... i play the quests and start another game with other mods^^

And since i don't care much about the vanilla story, most LL quest mods aren't made for high level characters. At least i consider it more realistic to be enslaved at lvl1 or maybe 10 than at lvl 250^^

allsunday

allsunday

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Posted

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is only one folder for all profiles: the mod folder.

 

That's nice.

 

Sometimes i whish it would be different, if you deal with different profiles you'll always see all mods installed for any profile. Which can be confusing wink.png

But technical it's pretty nice, yes.

 

 

That reminds me another good reason why I don't use MO.  Too much unnecessary confusion just to solve simple problems.  :-)

 

Well, you don't need to use 10 different profiles. It's just an option NMM doesn't have^^

Sometimes i leave a profile for a new game to play other/updated mods and 6 months later i wish i could go back, but then i can't remember which mods and which versions i used... but it's not like NMM would offer any better options for that. wink.png

I guess i could make a backup of the mod folder if i want to leave a profile for a while, but usually i'm too lazy. So what i use in general is one profile for playing and one to test alpha/beta mods to see if they work, give feedback and if they might fit into my main game. With two profiles it's not really a problem as long as you name the beta versions properly. Although often enough my main game depends a lot on beta mods either. wink.png I don't really care about doing the main story, often actually avoid it to learn that i'm dragonborn and just play the adult mods.

So... everytime i find something doesn't work i may finish the mod and then start a new game anyways.

 

 

LOL!  Most people don't enjoy starting all over just because they can't solve a problem.  But good for you though.  

 

Well, every time is exaggerated but once you get stack dumps and your scripts are broken there is little choice. You could try to reinstall the mods, but i'd need to start from scratch then, pointless for quest mods. That way i don't have to bother how script heavy my game is... i play the quests and start another game with other mods^^

And since i don't care much about the vanilla story, most LL quest mods aren't made for high level characters. At least i consider it more realistic to be enslaved at lvl1 or maybe 10 than at lvl 250^^

 

 

 

 

Got it.  With all the options out there, you prefer to play as a weak female who gets enslaved.  Cool.

Nazzzgul666

Nazzzgul666

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Posted

 

Got it.  With all the options out there, you prefer to play as a weak female who gets enslaved.  Cool.

I usually play a sneaky archer. That way i'm pretty well able to kill enemies... as long as they don't see me. ;) I don't use trainers, so i'm detected often enough...

In other RPGs i've always played mages, but i found the options for mages in Skyrim quite unsatisfying. No real mass destruction at high levels, and too weak in general. I always planned a playthrough with some mage overhaul, but at least since the two years i'm playing Skyrim, i'm more intrested in weak dragonporn than powerful dragonborn. :)

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