Domination (whipping) animation ruins animations

[Nel]

Posted about this in the Tryout mod page but it turns out it is a sexout issue and not a problem with the updated fiends esp.

 

I've tested this with cook cook (from the tryout mod) and Beatrix (the cowgirl ghoul who you hire for the atomic wrangler) who both do the same whipping animation where your character has her hands tied behind her back and gets on her knees and gets whipped (or swatted or whatever you wanna call it). After this animation plays the normal human sex animations (blowjob, anal, vaginal, lesbian) no longer play.

 

Not sure if its just something with me or if others have this problem as the updated version is relatively new and the whip animation isn't very common besides with special characters. I did do a clean save and hen installed the new updated versions of sexout, tryout, and the other recently updated plugins, so unless I overlooked something that isn't the problem.

 

I haven't tested this with other "non-normal" sex scenes like the bounded and whipped one with the Legion which is a bit different because you are hung up and shackled to an object or other object based sex scenes.

 

Edit: appears someone else posted in the tryout thread about this problem and has tested it further than I:

 

i've been having a similar problem' date=' normal sex animations work fine till a bdsm one, kneeling in front of beatrix, post or stocks at the legion camp, all of which work at that moment, but immediately after the bdsm animation is over, the vanilla sex animations stop functioning, beatrix goes to use her strap on, we stand inside each other, same at the fort with all the npc's i could try, i tried taking every mod but the necessary sexout ones out, till my load order was only the dlc's sexout,common resources,slavery,legion tryout, mcm, and zaz, plus nvse and v9 extender but it still did the same even after a clean save, just did a full reinstall on both the game and mods,and got the same again, sorry if i'm posting this in the wrong section, or if it's been explained with a fix and i missed it.

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So it seems all BDSM related animations are messing with the other sex animations.

[prideslayer]

Could be something funky going on WRT ZAZ animations in 68R, if those are the only ones 'causing' the problem.

 

After someone gets stuck, check their inventory for tokens, and you can also check if they have any leftover EV settings. This is a list of all the EV settings that sexout setsup in the base effect script. You can open the console, select a 'stuck' actor, and type them as is to get their values. After sex is done they should all be null/zero.

 

 

 

NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::raper"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::duration"

NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::actorA"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::actorB"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::actorC"

NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::actorX"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::animA"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::animB"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::animC"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::isAnal"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::isVaginal"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::isOral"

NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBDialogA"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBDialogB"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBDialogC"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBDialogX"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBSpellA"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBSpellB"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBSpellC"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBSpellX"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBItemA"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBItemB"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBItemC"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBItemX"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBPackA"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBPackB"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBPackC"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::CBPackX"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::bDontUndressA"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::bDontRedressA"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::bDontUndressB"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::bDontRedressB"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::bDontUndressC"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::bDontRedressC"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::bodyA"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::bodyB"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::bodyC"
NX_GetEVFo "Sexout:Start::refSurface"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::fSurfaceX"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::fSurfaceY"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::fSurfaceZ"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::fSurfaceAngle"
NX_GetEVFl "Sexout:Start::nUseZAZ"

 

 

 

Also don't forget to check the console for errors before sex starts, or tries to start.

[sapphyeatspaste]

tried again, positive i failed at nx_getevfl and put it in wrong, kept getting script command not found, but when i started the standing still sex after being in the stocks it said

 

sexoutNGBES: You picked a classic animation but made an NG call. Please use an NG animation for 0

Preg2VaginalSexHappening: StartOK

Preg2SexHappening Eris Rose: Oral fucking with Marissa

 

not sure if that helps at all as i have no idea what i'm doing

[prideslayer]

no it really doesn't.. the output of the NX_GetEVFl is what I need. Try again and type it in correctly.. Make sure you've clicked on an affected NPC first -- you'll know you did because their ID and name will be shown at the top of the screen.

[sapphyeatspaste]

*crosses fingers* think i did it right this time, after the bdsm scene with Marissa, went to engage a normal sex scene with her and put in while clicked on her and got back

NX_GetEVFl"Sexout:Start::nUseZAZ"

getevfl: 1.00000

recopied the command too encase i put in in wrong and semi randomly, thank you for the help and being patient with my incompetence too

[NepoznatiNN]

I have similar problems (that's why i didn't make new topic) .

 

Don't know about Cook Cook or Beatrix , but have problems when they are included things from sexout ZAZ .

 

After that i do not have sexout animations any more , just people standing one by other . (in some cases NPC skip something that need to say or do , and im frozen in game - can not continue without him saying or do that) .

 

To me it happens in SexoutSS_C (after spanking punishment) and in Tryout in Vault 19 , Ghommora (Working Girl) and Legion (after crucifiction punishment) , probably will have same thing on places that OP mentioned.

 

I did make new clean install with only minimum mods ( before did have about 100 mods and Fallout New Vegas & Fallout 3 together using Best Of Both Worlds mod and all worked except that) .

 

That are 2 load erders from (newest) FOMM i did tried today (again) before making question :

 

FalloutNV.esm

HonestHearts.esm

CaravanPack.esm

ClassicPack.esm

DeadMoney.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

Sexout.esm

SexoutCommonResources.esm

SexoutSlavery.esm

SexoutLegion.esm

Loot Vehicles.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp

Continue After Ending V1.9.esp

PerkEveryLevel.esp

SexoutWorkingGirl.esp

SexoutKhans.esp

SexoutKings.esp

SexoutNCR.esp

SexoutPowderGangers.esp

SexoutFiends.esp

Tryout - Hard Prison Time.esp

st.esp

SexoutBrutalRapers.esp

SexoutEncounters.esp

SexoutConsequences.esp

SexoutSex.esp

SexoutSS_C.esp

SexoutStore.esp

SmallerTalk.esp

SexoutYield.esp

SexoutZAZ.esp

SexoutTrade.esp

 

Total active plugins: 37

Total plugins: 37

 

or

 

FalloutNV.esm

HonestHearts.esm

CaravanPack.esm

ClassicPack.esm

DeadMoney.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

Sexout.esm

SexoutCommonResources.esm

SexoutSlavery.esm

SexoutLegion.esm

SexoutWorkingGirl.esp

SexoutFiends.esp

SexoutKings.esp

SexoutNCR.esp

SexoutKhans.esp

SexoutPowderGangers.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Tryout - Hard Prison Time.esp

SexoutZAZ.esp

SmallerTalk.esp

SexoutSex.esp

SexoutEncounters.esp

SexoutBrutalRapers.esp

Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp

st.esp

CompanionDe-Equip.esp

 

Total active plugins: 30

Total plugins: 30

 

 

Have newest graphic & Phys-x drivers , newest version of mods , tried even with less mods used then stated here (and more too) .

 

Here are some screenshots :

 

 

Could be something like with wsex mod - when i install it first and then other mods (after checking) it works but if i install wsex later with other instaled game start crushing .

 

 

Cheers , NepoznatiNN

[Nel]

All the NX_GetEVFo and GetEVFl variables came back as 0 or 0.000 both during and after the sex animations.

 

Only message that looked like a potential issue is that SexoutNGBES: v04 in use flag unset on A! 0x00000000 and B! 0x00000000

 

but since Nepo posted screenshots with that message already I assume that isn't the cause of the problem.

 

I tried making a save after the problem occured and then restarting the game to see if that would allow the normal animations to play again, but they were still messed up, so if I use any ZAZ animation at all, the normal sex animations are then screwed up in that save no matter what I do so I always have to reload an older save and avoid all ZAZ related content.

 

Even tried reinstalling ZAZ and doing a clean save but nothing worked. Since you said you can't replicate the issue in your SexoutNG thread I figure I'll just completely delete and then reinstall from scratch with a clean save every single sexout mod when you release the new beta to the sexout mod.

[prideslayer]

All the NX_GetEVFo and GetEVFl variables came back as 0 or 0.000 both during and after the sex animations.

 

Only message that looked like a potential issue is that SexoutNGBES: v04 in use flag unset on A! 0x00000000 and B! 0x00000000

 

This is all good information and indicates that sexout is working correctly -- or at least thinks it is. If all the EVs are 0'd out then the actor is ready to participate in sex again' date=' as long as they don't have any lingering tokens (I am in the process of making sure even that doesn't matter).

 

That NGBES message is just a debug message I left in on accident, indicating that the inuse flag had been reset to 0 -- in other words, all proceeding correctly. The message will be removed in the next release.

 

I tried making a save after the problem occured and then restarting the game to see if that would allow the normal animations to play again, but they were still messed up, so if I use any ZAZ animation at all, the normal sex animations are then screwed up in that save no matter what I do so I always have to reload an older save and avoid all ZAZ related content.

 

That helps some. I will take another look and follow this use pattern.

 

Even tried reinstalling ZAZ and doing a clean save but nothing worked. Since you said you can't replicate the issue in your SexoutNG thread I figure I'll just completely delete and then reinstall from scratch with a clean save every single sexout mod when you release the new beta to the sexout mod.

 

You won't have to do that, just give me some time to get the beta out, should be soon. I'll take a look at doing normal -> zaz -> normal anims and see if anything goes screwy.

[prideslayer]

Beta release of sexout ESM should fix this issue, give it a try.