Chinese version of UUNP thread?

[turboprinzzz]

 

Has anyone figured out what is wrong with the labia texture?

 

even with no specular texture or a completely black specular, the mesh is glowing hot white ingame, unless i turn down specular strength in my enb pretty much all the way.

 

I played around with the texture settings in nifskope but nothing is helplng so far.

 

I edited the ShaderProperty. Changed it to Skin Tint, added flags, changed the Specular Color.  Made it match the body's settings for the most part.

 

 

 

edit.jpg

 

 

 

That is pretty much exactly what I did, yet everything is still white down south.

 

[Guest]

This doesnt happen for me no matter which Texture i choose

[Whizkid]

any updates for this body?

[27X]

Why would there be updates to a """borrowed""" uunp mesh with """borrowed"""" skin textures and """borrowed""" Daz Poser labia with a """borrowed""" cbbe vagina and """borrowed""" SMP proxy objects and """borrowed""" Nexus pubic hair.

 

They have to wait until someone puts out something else they can """borrow""" to put on it.

[Whizkid]

its more of an enhancement!!!! borrowed is wrong choice of words..., but then when is this not the case for most of the mods...., which worked off the based game zzzzz

[imacarl]

I don't think enhancement is the right word either, since that's a subjective statement(albeit the body is better imo), borrow ofc is sort of misleading, but the quotation marks makes it seem like the statement is sarcastic, as the mod itself probably takes without permission.

 

@above, IMO you're generalizing modding too vaguely. most mods come from other forms of work, but theres a big different in making the mod, and taking someone else's work and adding it into another mod. For instance, UNP is a base body mod, all the UNP derivatives is a mod of that mod, but no matter what, they all heed to the original body for special thanks and stuff. This body follows closely to the latter. A good comparison for this body would be like UN7B, which splices parts of UNPB and 7B. the contents itself aren't that original

[rahrahrah]

I don't think enhancement is the right word either, since that's a subjective statement(albeit the body is better imo), borrow ofc is sort of misleading, but the quotation marks makes it seem like the statement is sarcastic, as the mod itself probably takes without permission.

 

@above, IMO you're generalizing modding too vaguely. most mods come from other forms of work, but theres a big different in making the mod, and taking someone else's work and adding it into another mod. For instance, UNP is a base body mod, all the UNP derivatives is a mod of that mod, but no matter what, they all heed to the original body for special thanks and stuff. This body follows closely to the latter. A good comparison for this body would be like UN7B, which splices parts of UNPB and 7B. the contents itself aren't that original

 

and UNP and it's derivatives are just remodels of the original bethesda body (would imagine CBBE is too)

[imacarl]

 

I don't think enhancement is the right word either, since that's a subjective statement(albeit the body is better imo), borrow ofc is sort of misleading, but the quotation marks makes it seem like the statement is sarcastic, as the mod itself probably takes without permission.

 

@above, IMO you're generalizing modding too vaguely. most mods come from other forms of work, but theres a big different in making the mod, and taking someone else's work and adding it into another mod. For instance, UNP is a base body mod, all the UNP derivatives is a mod of that mod, but no matter what, they all heed to the original body for special thanks and stuff. This body follows closely to the latter. A good comparison for this body would be like UN7B, which splices parts of UNPB and 7B. the contents itself aren't that original

 

and UNP and it's derivatives are just remodels of the original bethesda body (would imagine CBBE is too)

 

both bodies have a significant amount of changes when it comes to vertex' and how the texture layout is. There's a reason why unp, cbbe and vanilla bodies do not use the same textures

[rahrahrah]

 

 

I don't think enhancement is the right word either, since that's a subjective statement(albeit the body is better imo), borrow ofc is sort of misleading, but the quotation marks makes it seem like the statement is sarcastic, as the mod itself probably takes without permission.

 

@above, IMO you're generalizing modding too vaguely. most mods come from other forms of work, but theres a big different in making the mod, and taking someone else's work and adding it into another mod. For instance, UNP is a base body mod, all the UNP derivatives is a mod of that mod, but no matter what, they all heed to the original body for special thanks and stuff. This body follows closely to the latter. A good comparison for this body would be like UN7B, which splices parts of UNPB and 7B. the contents itself aren't that original

 

and UNP and it's derivatives are just remodels of the original bethesda body (would imagine CBBE is too)

 

both bodies have a significant amount of changes when it comes to vertex' and how the texture layout is. There's a reason why unp, cbbe and vanilla bodies do not use the same textures

 

 

Yeah, well that's 3d modelling for you.  Neither of those bodies were built from scratch.  Pop a vanilla texture set on a unp body and you can see where the UVS got screwed (couple of triangles near the crotch and the ankles got altered too ) when he quadrified the mesh to redo the topology.

 

You shouldn't really be arguing this sort of thing unless you've actually spent a lot of time in Max or Blender, because I have.

 

EDIT : from Dimon's UNP credit section "*Bethesda - base mesh for the body model, specular and normal maps."

 

Derivative work.

[Xaqq]

lmao everytime 27x types something on these forums it's always about how he is pissed about something. 

[Guest]

lmao everytime 27x types something on these forums it's always about how he is pissed about something.

I Can quite understand his madness, niveu on this forum is dropping lower than the bass. Everybody is like oooh aaah I am right and you are shitfuck, doesn't matter if they know something or not

[27X]

lmao 

 

 

 

I'm not mad about anything.

 

Blunt does not equal mad, and the fact you can't tell the difference speaks volumes, also just because you want something doesn't mean the person whom made it is required to give it to you, or required to open it to the rest of the planet for perusal.

 

Sharing is a gift, not a right, and not everyone may decide their work is public milieu. 

 

Also if we're just gonna throw rocks at transparent domiciles, every post you make is "gimme ____ that I saw on a japanese blog" followed directly  by "why does ____ crash my game"...

[Whizkid]

@27x, how is it blunt when u are insinuating that its work being stolen?? not sure your hidden agenda or motivation in do so tho.., as far as i know noone really knows who did or created this new body type...., but then this is just a discussion to get more information.

 

imo, if u have nothing positive to add just refrain from posting...

 

 

[27X]

There is no insinuation.

 

No permission was asked from:

 

Maevan

HHaley

EliteCheat

Zonzai

Daemonic

Trepleen

Karina

BTNK

Dimon99

Seren4xx

HelloSanta

 

Some of those people have open use policies, some of them do not. Since nini and regenbot had no trouble contacting HHaley and Zonzai, "China" is not an excuse.

 

Seeing as it took me about 5 seconds to figure out where everything came from, your point is what exactly.

 

What happens on your hard drive stays on your hard drive, what happens in public is another matter entirely.

 

 

[Whizkid]

There is no insinuation.

 

No permission was asked from:

 

Maevan

HHaley

EliteCheat

Zonzai

Daemonic

Trepleen

Karina

BTNK

Dimon99

Seren4xx

HelloSanta

 

Some of those people have open use policies, some of them do not. Since nini and regenbot had no trouble contacting HHaley and Zonzai, "China" is not an excuse.

 

Seeing as it took me about 5 seconds to figure out where everything came from, your point is what exactly.

 

What happens on your hard drive stays on your hard drive, what happens in public is another matter entirely.

as usual giving us your crap, someone created the new body type in china, can u read chinese or do you even know where it originated from i.e. website how was it shared etc.., lastly how the fuck do u even know if they did or didnt ask for permission, really your usual crap is look here someone posted something obviously its stolen so everyone fuck off...

 

lets not cry wolf ...

[Xaqq]

 

There is no insinuation.

 

No permission was asked from:

 

Maevan

HHaley

EliteCheat

Zonzai

Daemonic

Trepleen

Karina

BTNK

Dimon99

Seren4xx

HelloSanta

 

Some of those people have open use policies, some of them do not. Since nini and regenbot had no trouble contacting HHaley and Zonzai, "China" is not an excuse.

 

Seeing as it took me about 5 seconds to figure out where everything came from, your point is what exactly.

 

What happens on your hard drive stays on your hard drive, what happens in public is another matter entirely.

as usual giving us your crap, someone created the new body type in china, can u read chinese or do you even know where it originated from i.e. website how was it shared etc.., lastly how the fuck do u even know if they did or didnt ask for permission, really your usual crap is look here someone posted something obviously its stolen so everyone fuck off...

 

lets not cry wolf ...

 

LMAOOOOO why do you even spend time arguing with this guy? i just ignore his posts usually and he gets left in the dust. don't bother responding next time. just ignore 27x like everyone else does and his comment will get lost in oblivion within the plethora of actual discussion. 

 

and tbh, it's just mods, as long as money is not involved no one is gonna give a real shit.

 

Edit: is there a way to clean up threads if you started the thread? i want this to be specifically and only about UUNP chinese, let's leave the arguments outside please.

[Varithina]

 

Edit: is there a way to clean up threads if you started the thread? i want this to be specifically and only about UUNP chinese, let's leave the arguments outside please.

 

 

You could try asking one of the mods and point to the posts you would like removing or leave it up to their discretion which posts get removed.

 

[Guest]

Most of the time 27x is right on what he's saying..

[Darklocq]

Well, part of the issue here is that there's the Chinese UUNP body mod (a mesh and some HDT XML for it), and then there's the archive it was distributed in, which was basically a big dump of every mod someone liked, whether it had anything to do with this body mesh at all.  Just a huge-ass pile of body textures and stuff.

 

It's easy to clean the underlying mod of this detritus. When you do that, you're left with a body mesh that's not really any different from any of the zillion UNPB and CBBE variants that preceded it, when it comes to being a derivative work.  Those couldn't exist (and couldn't still be being produced in new variants every week) if the the core parts of them like the overall UNP body form, were "get my permission first".  We know they're not.

 

I don't read Chinese, so I don't know if the original uploader (who may not be the original creator of Chinese UUNP) ever credited anyone for anything. But the only implications of that are for that particular archive.  When I get the NIFs patched up, I'll try to credit everyone who should be credited (e.g., I think the pubes are from Cubic Hair by EliteCheat, whose work is open-use. May take a while to ID all of it).  But, when you get it working properly, it's a fantastic body model, and is worth repairing and re-releasing properly.

 

I've already fixed it to not do stupid things like day-glo vaginas. It will call unique XML files, so it is never interfering with or interfered with by anything else. Also seeing about fixing the brightness/contrast problem with the pubes (you have to feed it very, very dark texture files to not end up with gleaming beacon bush).

[Whizkid]

lmao u are a couple of months too late, seems like there is another 2-3 chinese versions, which unfortunately the latest version is behind a paid wall for bodyslide, and again it seems to have disappeared from the chinese forums, not sure what happened to the forum thread, and its more polished than this version which i think is just a proof of concept, if u are interested check out baz's hdt threads someone posted some information on this, there.

[Darklocq]

2 hours ago, Whizkid said:

lmao u are a couple of months too late, seems like there is another 2-3 chinese versions, which unfortunately the latest version is behind a paid wall for bodyslide, and again it seems to have disappeared from the chinese forums, not sure what happened to the forum thread, and its more polished than this version which i think is just a proof of concept, if u are interested check out baz's hdt threads someone posted some information on this, there.

Already read those threads, which is how I got into overhauling this in the first place. I'm not "too late" for anything.  If there's Mod A and someone makes Mod A+B improvement that doesn't magically preclude another modder from independently making Mod A+C improvement. This version works fine when you do some work on it.  I've been using it on 3 characters (two of them pretty extreme) for a month.  Half of the stuff I see modders do that's labeled an improvement or polish is just subjective monkeying around that looks like crap to someone else.

 

Bazinga proved the original version's basic viability (most early "not working" commentary turned out to be operator error). He integrated one of its 16 included variants into "Naturalistic HDT and Beast HDT" over a year ago (though with many features removed, including thigh jiggles, the vag interior mesh, 3D pubes, and the non-puffy nips option).  If anything's "just a proof of concept" it's his NBB Chinese UUNP implementation.  But it's also been well-accepted without anyone having a shit-fit about the resources it includes, despite no one being credited for them.  I aim to be more specific, and to include all the options the original included (with fixes), and have already created 4 new variants.

 

Outside of Chinese forums, no one really cares about or is aware of what's going on in Chinese forums.  A newer refinement of Chinese UUNP that has disappeared (and was subject to probably illegitimate "pay me" redist limitations anyway) basically isn't a mod from a general gaming perspective, but just temporary discussion about a private tweak for someone specific and their buddies, and fools who'll send them money.  If complaints about the original pirating various resources (especially on the texture side) are correct, then it's likely that those now-missing "another 2-3 Chinese versions" are in the same direction, which is not my direction.

 

 

ANYWAY, all I really need at this point is info on who to credit for the body parts, maybe the inner vagina graphic (though it appears to just be a vaginal canal and cervix shot from either a medical source or a speculum-porn site, so probably no modder's property in the first place), and maybe some of the XML work.  I've thrown out all the irrelevant textures and bodies the original archive came with (allegedly and probably without permission), since there was no reason for them to be included in the first place. It needs nothing but BodySlide resources, some XML files, and a ReadMe, and a texture image.

 

[Whizkid]

9 hours ago, Darklocq said:

Already read those threads, which is how I got into overhauling this in the first place. I'm not "too late" for anything.  If there's Mod A and someone makes Mod A+B improvement that doesn't magically preclude another modder from independently making Mod A+C improvement. This version works fine when you do some work on it.  I've been using it on 3 characters (two of them pretty extreme) for a month.  Half of the stuff I see modders do that's labeled an improvement or polish is just subjective monkeying around that looks like crap to someone else.

 

Bazinga proved the original version's basic viability (most early "not working" commentary turned out to be operator error). He integrated one of its 16 included variants into "Naturalistic HDT and Beast HDT" over a year ago (though with many features removed, including thigh jiggles, the vag interior mesh, 3D pubes, and the non-puffy nips option).  If anything's "just a proof of concept" it's his NBB Chinese UUNP implementation.  But it's also been well-accepted without anyone having a shit-fit about the resources it includes, despite no one being credited for them.  I aim to be more specific, and to include all the options the original included (with fixes), and have already created 4 new variants.

 

Outside of Chinese forums, no one really cares about or is aware of what's going on in Chinese forums.  A newer refinement of Chinese UUNP that has disappeared (and was subject to probably illegitimate "pay me" redist limitations anyway) basically isn't a mod from a general gaming perspective, but just temporary discussion about a private tweak for someone specific and their buddies, and fools who'll send them money.  If complaints about the original pirating various resources (especially on the texture side) are correct, then it's likely that those now-missing "another 2-3 Chinese versions" are in the same direction, which is not my direction.

 

 

ANYWAY, all I really need at this point is info on who to credit for the body parts, maybe the inner vagina graphic (though it appears to just be a vaginal canal and cervix shot from either a medical source or a speculum-porn site, so probably no modder's property in the first place), and maybe some of the XML work.  I've thrown out all the irrelevant textures and bodies the original archive came with (allegedly and probably without permission), since there was no reason for them to be included in the first place. It needs nothing but BodySlide resources, some XML files, and a ReadMe, and a texture image.

 

i am not an expert, but the latest version release for the public has everything everyone would love to have i.e. puffy nipples not the sharp pointy nipples and the vag is mesh into the body not separated like the labia mob listed here, all 3 versions comes package with textures, lmao that's the point not sure where or who these textures belong, the body i would think it's a modification of the initial beta version which baz worked on.

 

i not sure about the missing part, seems like i couldn't access that forum thread anymore, could be cause i have not access the forums for more than a month, idk, i am using the 1st version with bodyslide and its feels more immersive it's sort of like a cheap version of smp lmao but without all that technical BS that comes with smp..

 

my 2 cents.

[Darklocq]

I've yet to notice any SMP-like behavior (in the version I'm working with).  It's just HDT stuff on the boobs, butt, belly, and thighs, plus additional XML work for collision with the labia and vag.  My own interest in it's been the better breasts, the thigh motion, 3d pubes that don't require an additional mod, and the better-looking labia (after the day-glow problem is fixed, which is something Bazinga worked out).  Still working on getting the pubes to auto-show the character's hair color, which is something I can adapt from Cubic Hair and/or from PaintedLady (the problem with the lower hair right now is that it shows up either very dark or very light, and must be supplied a specific colored texture, which will not actually match what you see in-game, due to something like specularity or emissiveness being set wrong).

[Guest]

what is the latest version?

[Whizkid]

27 minutes ago, Chubby McButtcheeks said:

what is the latest version?

this is the latest version