Weird hands thing

[Corsayr]

Anyone have any thoughts as to what might be going on here?

 

 

 

 

Ok so back story

 

I have been having some CTD issues (Too many mods added during a play though with little regard for stability, modding protocol, or human decency. I shouldn't have started SoT in a heavy mod environment in the middle of a play through I knew this, I did it anyway )

 

So I was like ok I'm gonna clean this pig and start a new play through like I should have. I initially toyed with dropping HDT cuz it is resource heavy and I mostly just like the moving hair. But I encountered problems finding good CBBE with bodyslide outfit replacers that didn't also require HDT. So I though maybe a minimalist install of HDT??

 

Anyway I started getting this issue and can not seem to fix it.

 

The hand don't seem to understand their place in the 3d world and do like an MC esher thing when I spin being both infront of me and behind me at the same time clipping through the body. (it does this with or without gloves on)

 

What have I tried so far

Reinstalled bodyslide / CBBE

added a hand mod Nexus 49285 Feminine Hands CBBE

Run bodyslide (many times)

run fnis

installed I love cleavage CBBE HDT body

totally deleted my HDT mods and reinstalled all of them.

 

One oither thing I did last night in the initial cleaning that lead to this situation (but may or may not have anything to do with it, I only mention it because it is something I have no prior experience using) I added Wyre Bash

 

So any thoughts?

 

Here is my current load order but it is abit of a mess after a night of trying to hammer this out on my own

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
FunctionalHomes.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Campfire.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Heretical Resources.esm=1
ZazExtensionPack.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
Havok Breast Physic.esm=1
SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1
StaminaHigh.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 2x Brighter.esp=1
Skein of Magnus.esp=1
STFU.esp=1
STFUbitch.esp=1
AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
Skill Config.esp=1
edit_LearnEffects.esp=1
Brows.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1
SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp=1
JKs Skyrim.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
SLALAnimObj.esp=1
SexLab Extra Voices.esp=1
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1
SerialStrip.esp=1
SerialStripper.esp=1
Sofia Mannequin HF.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=1
Skyrim_Sexy_LoadScreens.esp=1
Real Months.esp=1
Real Days.esp=1
SLKidnapped_DeviousAddon.esp=1
SlaveTats.esp=1
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp=1
BaseCarryWeightHigh.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1
Rebirth Monster.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
Size Does Matter HF.esp=1
JK Crafting Breakdown.esp=1
HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp=1
GagSFX.esp=1
GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1
GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1
GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1
AOS.esp=1
FunctionalHomes.esp=1
Superl3.esp=1
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp=1
SLKidnapped.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp=1
Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp=1
Scarcity - 8x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=0
Scarcity - 8x Loot Rarity.esp=0
Scarcity - 6x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=0
Scarcity - 6x Loot Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 4x Loot Rarity.esp=0
Scarcity - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=0
Scarcity - 2x Loot Rarity.esp=0
Scarcity - 10x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=0
Scarcity - 10x Loot Rarity.esp=0
Ish's Respec Mod.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp=1
Player_Exhibitionist.esp=1
ContinueGameNoCrash.esp=1
AHZmoreHUD.esp=1
Spanking.esp=1
Captured Dreams.esp=1
Point The Way.esp=1
SOTGenesisMod.esp=1
EstrusChaurus.esp=1
HentaiCreatures.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
K2 Naked Mage.esp=1
Havok Breast Physic.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp=1
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp=1
Devious Deviants.esp=1
SimpleSlavery.esp=1
NARC.esp=1
Bridge Farm Hearthfire version.esp=1
Immersive Wenches.esp=1
Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp=1
SofiaFollower.esp=1
TKAA.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
KCECuteTail.esp=1
RealisticRegeneration.esp=1
RND_RWS-Patch.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
SimplyKnock.esp=1
TradeBarter.esp=1
Predator Vision.esp=1
Cassandra Frost Witch.esp=1
DG High Heels.esp=1
NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1
SexLab Warmbodies.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
Customizable Camera.esp=1
Shaydows WereWolf Replacer OVERHAUL.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
Facelight.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
SexistGuards.esp=1
BardSoundsMalukah.esp=1
BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp=1
SexCrime.esp=1
SmallerAtronachs.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
Immersive Horses.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
Eli's Coffee Mod.esp=1
Craftable Horse Barding.esp=1
Frostfall.esp=1
Provincial Courier Service.esp=1
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp=1
S_L_U_T_S.esp=1
NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp=1
Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp=1
Cloaks - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
Candlespell.esp=1
BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp=1
Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Housecarls.esp=1
R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp=1
Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp=1
TTRMarieRose.esp=1
Veronika the Thief.esp=1
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp=1
_sunya.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
ZazResources.esp=1
HHairstyles.esp=1
NoraceFollower.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
HornyDragons.esp=1
HornyDragsMNCAddon.esp=1
HornyHorses.esp=1
HornyBoars.esp=1
Last Rites.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
Donyaakin.esp=1
Companion_Ria.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1
Get Out Of My Way.esp=1
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

 

[RW311]

Is your pc doing this with any other gloves or with none at all? This is not likely to have anything to do with hands. Often this can happen with a bodyslide project, if you built the gloves with bodyslide then try using the gloves that came with the mod before they are modified by bodyslide and see if they have the same problem.

[Corsayr]

All gloves, and even with no gloves.

 

What does happen, is when I goto showrace menu, and reinstall Fawns latest preset it goes away until she puts gloves on and then it is back..

 

 

 

 

 

Some more pics without gloves 

 

It seems like it has to be a body issue but after reinstalling the body a few times and even changing it to a different body, and running bodyslide there has to be something else going on. 

 

I was kind of hoping it would be something dumb and obvious like I had accidentally set bFloatwierdmcesherhands = 2 in some ini file.  

 

I played a little last night and beside the fact that hdt is not working there are no other issues. 

 

 

[Corsayr]

After uninstalling and reinstalling all the HDT stuff my load order now looks like this 

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
FunctionalHomes.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Campfire.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Heretical Resources.esm=1
ZazExtensionPack.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
Havok Breast Physic.esm=1
SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1
StaminaHigh.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 2x Brighter.esp=1
Skein of Magnus.esp=1
STFU.esp=1
STFUbitch.esp=1
AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
Skill Config.esp=1
edit_LearnEffects.esp=1
Brows.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1
SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp=1
JKs Skyrim.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
SLALAnimObj.esp=1
SexLab Extra Voices.esp=1
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1
SerialStrip.esp=1
SerialStripper.esp=1
Sofia Mannequin HF.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=1
Skyrim_Sexy_LoadScreens.esp=1
Real Months.esp=1
Real Days.esp=1
SLKidnapped_DeviousAddon.esp=1
SlaveTats.esp=1
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp=1
BaseCarryWeightHigh.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1
Rebirth Monster.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
Size Does Matter HF.esp=1
JK Crafting Breakdown.esp=1
HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp=1
GagSFX.esp=1
GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1
GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1
GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1
AOS.esp=1
FunctionalHomes.esp=1
Superl3.esp=1
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp=1
SLKidnapped.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp=1
Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp=1
Scarcity - 8x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 8x Loot Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 6x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 6x Loot Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 4x Loot Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 2x Loot Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 10x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1
Scarcity - 10x Loot Rarity.esp=1
Ish's Respec Mod.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp=1
Player_Exhibitionist.esp=1
ContinueGameNoCrash.esp=1
AHZmoreHUD.esp=1
Spanking.esp=1
Captured Dreams.esp=1
Point The Way.esp=1
SOTGenesisMod.esp=1
EstrusChaurus.esp=1
HentaiCreatures.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
K2 Naked Mage.esp=1
Havok Breast Physic.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp=1
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp=1
Devious Deviants.esp=1
SimpleSlavery.esp=1
NARC.esp=1
Bridge Farm Hearthfire version.esp=1
Immersive Wenches.esp=1
Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp=1
SofiaFollower.esp=1
TKAA.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
KCECuteTail.esp=1
RealisticRegeneration.esp=1
RND_RWS-Patch.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
SimplyKnock.esp=1
TradeBarter.esp=1
Predator Vision.esp=1
Cassandra Frost Witch.esp=1
DG High Heels.esp=1
NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1
SexLab Warmbodies.esp=1
Customizable Camera.esp=1
Shaydows WereWolf Replacer OVERHAUL.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
Facelight.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
SexistGuards.esp=1
BardSoundsMalukah.esp=1
BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp=1
SexCrime.esp=1
SmallerAtronachs.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
Immersive Horses.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
Eli's Coffee Mod.esp=1
Craftable Horse Barding.esp=1
Frostfall.esp=1
Provincial Courier Service.esp=1
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp=1
S_L_U_T_S.esp=1
NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp=1
Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp=1
Cloaks - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
Candlespell.esp=1
BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp=1
Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Housecarls.esp=1
R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp=1
Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp=1
TTRMarieRose.esp=1
Veronika the Thief.esp=1
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp=1
_sunya.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
ZazResources.esp=1
HHairstyles.esp=1
NoraceFollower.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
HornyDragons.esp=1
HornyDragsMNCAddon.esp=1
HornyHorses.esp=1
HornyBoars.esp=1
Last Rites.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
Donyaakin.esp=1
Companion_Ria.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1
Get Out Of My Way.esp=1
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1
Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0

 

 

The hands thing returns if I am wearing cloths and change something in the CBBE menu in ramemenu, but goes away if I take my cloths off and put them back on again. 

 

However I still do not have functional HDT breast and butt.... 

 

Thoughts?