Corsayr Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Anyone have any thoughts as to what might be going on here? Ok so back story I have been having some CTD issues (Too many mods added during a play though with little regard for stability, modding protocol, or human decency. I shouldn't have started SoT in a heavy mod environment in the middle of a play through I knew this, I did it anyway ) So I was like ok I'm gonna clean this pig and start a new play through like I should have. I initially toyed with dropping HDT cuz it is resource heavy and I mostly just like the moving hair. But I encountered problems finding good CBBE with bodyslide outfit replacers that didn't also require HDT. So I though maybe a minimalist install of HDT?? Anyway I started getting this issue and can not seem to fix it. The hand don't seem to understand their place in the 3d world and do like an MC esher thing when I spin being both infront of me and behind me at the same time clipping through the body. (it does this with or without gloves on) What have I tried so far Reinstalled bodyslide / CBBE added a hand mod Nexus 49285 Feminine Hands CBBE Run bodyslide (many times) run fnis installed I love cleavage CBBE HDT body totally deleted my HDT mods and reinstalled all of them. One oither thing I did last night in the initial cleaning that lead to this situation (but may or may not have anything to do with it, I only mention it because it is something I have no prior experience using) I added Wyre Bash So any thoughts? Here is my current load order but it is abit of a mess after a night of trying to hammer this out on my own GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1ApachiiHair.esm=1SexLab.esm=1FunctionalHomes.esm=1Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1Campfire.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1Heretical Resources.esm=1ZazExtensionPack.esm=1Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1CreatureFramework.esm=1hdtHighHeel.esm=1Havok Breast Physic.esm=1SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1StaminaHigh.esp=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 2x Brighter.esp=1Skein of Magnus.esp=1STFU.esp=1STFUbitch.esp=1AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1KS Hairdo's.esp=1Skill Config.esp=1edit_LearnEffects.esp=1Brows.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp=1JKs Skyrim.esp=1SLAnimLoader.esp=1SLALAnimObj.esp=1SexLab Extra Voices.esp=1TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1SerialStrip.esp=1SerialStripper.esp=1Sofia Mannequin HF.esp=1zzEstrus.esp=1Skyrim_Sexy_LoadScreens.esp=1Real Months.esp=1Real Days.esp=1SLKidnapped_DeviousAddon.esp=1SlaveTats.esp=1SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp=1BaseCarryWeightHigh.esp=1FISS.esp=1ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1Rebirth Monster.esp=1HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1Size Does Matter HF.esp=1JK Crafting Breakdown.esp=1HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp=1GagSFX.esp=1GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1AOS.esp=1FunctionalHomes.esp=1Superl3.esp=1Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp=1xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp=1SLKidnapped.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1AOS2_GDO Patch.esp=1Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp=1Scarcity - 8x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=0Scarcity - 8x Loot Rarity.esp=0Scarcity - 6x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=0Scarcity - 6x Loot Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 4x Loot Rarity.esp=0Scarcity - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=0Scarcity - 2x Loot Rarity.esp=0Scarcity - 10x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=0Scarcity - 10x Loot Rarity.esp=0Ish's Respec Mod.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp=1Player_Exhibitionist.esp=1ContinueGameNoCrash.esp=1AHZmoreHUD.esp=1Spanking.esp=1Captured Dreams.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1SOTGenesisMod.esp=1EstrusChaurus.esp=1HentaiCreatures.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1K2 Naked Mage.esp=1Havok Breast Physic.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp=1Deviously Cursed Loot.esp=1Devious Deviants.esp=1SimpleSlavery.esp=1NARC.esp=1Bridge Farm Hearthfire version.esp=1Immersive Wenches.esp=1Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp=1SofiaFollower.esp=1TKAA.esp=1HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1KCECuteTail.esp=1RealisticRegeneration.esp=1RND_RWS-Patch.esp=1RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1SimplyKnock.esp=1TradeBarter.esp=1Predator Vision.esp=1Cassandra Frost Witch.esp=1DG High Heels.esp=1NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1SexLab Warmbodies.esp=1Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1Customizable Camera.esp=1Shaydows WereWolf Replacer OVERHAUL.esp=1FNIS.esp=1Facelight.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1SexistGuards.esp=1BardSoundsMalukah.esp=1BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp=1SexCrime.esp=1SmallerAtronachs.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1Immersive Horses.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Eli's Coffee Mod.esp=1Craftable Horse Barding.esp=1Frostfall.esp=1Provincial Courier Service.esp=1Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp=1S_L_U_T_S.esp=1NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp=1Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp=1Cloaks - USLEEP Patch.esp=1Candlespell.esp=1BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp=1Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Housecarls.esp=1R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp=1Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp=1TTRMarieRose.esp=1Veronika the Thief.esp=1RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp=1_sunya.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1ZazResources.esp=1HHairstyles.esp=1NoraceFollower.esp=1MoreNastyCritters.esp=1HornyDragons.esp=1HornyDragsMNCAddon.esp=1HornyHorses.esp=1HornyBoars.esp=1Last Rites.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1Donyaakin.esp=1Companion_Ria.esp=1SexLabDefeat.esp=1mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1Get Out Of My Way.esp=1FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp=1XPMSE.esp=1SOSRaceMenu.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
RW311 Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 Is your pc doing this with any other gloves or with none at all? This is not likely to have anything to do with hands. Often this can happen with a bodyslide project, if you built the gloves with bodyslide then try using the gloves that came with the mod before they are modified by bodyslide and see if they have the same problem.
Corsayr Posted May 18, 2017 Author Posted May 18, 2017 All gloves, and even with no gloves. What does happen, is when I goto showrace menu, and reinstall Fawns latest preset it goes away until she puts gloves on and then it is back.. Some more pics without gloves It seems like it has to be a body issue but after reinstalling the body a few times and even changing it to a different body, and running bodyslide there has to be something else going on. I was kind of hoping it would be something dumb and obvious like I had accidentally set bFloatwierdmcesherhands = 2 in some ini file. I played a little last night and beside the fact that hdt is not working there are no other issues.
Corsayr Posted May 19, 2017 Author Posted May 19, 2017 After uninstalling and reinstalling all the HDT stuff my load order now looks like this GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1ApachiiHair.esm=1SexLab.esm=1FunctionalHomes.esm=1Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1Campfire.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1Heretical Resources.esm=1ZazExtensionPack.esm=1Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1CreatureFramework.esm=1hdtHighHeel.esm=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1Havok Breast Physic.esm=1SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1StaminaHigh.esp=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 2x Brighter.esp=1Skein of Magnus.esp=1STFU.esp=1STFUbitch.esp=1AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1KS Hairdo's.esp=1Skill Config.esp=1edit_LearnEffects.esp=1Brows.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp=1JKs Skyrim.esp=1SLAnimLoader.esp=1SLALAnimObj.esp=1SexLab Extra Voices.esp=1TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1SerialStrip.esp=1SerialStripper.esp=1Sofia Mannequin HF.esp=1zzEstrus.esp=1Skyrim_Sexy_LoadScreens.esp=1Real Months.esp=1Real Days.esp=1SLKidnapped_DeviousAddon.esp=1SlaveTats.esp=1SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp=1BaseCarryWeightHigh.esp=1FISS.esp=1ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1Rebirth Monster.esp=1HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1Size Does Matter HF.esp=1JK Crafting Breakdown.esp=1HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp=1GagSFX.esp=1GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1AOS.esp=1FunctionalHomes.esp=1Superl3.esp=1Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp=1xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp=1SLKidnapped.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1AOS2_GDO Patch.esp=1Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp=1Scarcity - 8x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 8x Loot Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 6x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 6x Loot Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 4x Loot Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 2x Loot Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 10x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 10x Loot Rarity.esp=1Ish's Respec Mod.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp=1Player_Exhibitionist.esp=1ContinueGameNoCrash.esp=1AHZmoreHUD.esp=1Spanking.esp=1Captured Dreams.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1SOTGenesisMod.esp=1EstrusChaurus.esp=1HentaiCreatures.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1K2 Naked Mage.esp=1Havok Breast Physic.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp=1Deviously Cursed Loot.esp=1Devious Deviants.esp=1SimpleSlavery.esp=1NARC.esp=1Bridge Farm Hearthfire version.esp=1Immersive Wenches.esp=1Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp=1SofiaFollower.esp=1TKAA.esp=1HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1KCECuteTail.esp=1RealisticRegeneration.esp=1RND_RWS-Patch.esp=1RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1SimplyKnock.esp=1TradeBarter.esp=1Predator Vision.esp=1Cassandra Frost Witch.esp=1DG High Heels.esp=1NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1SexLab Warmbodies.esp=1Customizable Camera.esp=1Shaydows WereWolf Replacer OVERHAUL.esp=1FNIS.esp=1Facelight.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1SexistGuards.esp=1BardSoundsMalukah.esp=1BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp=1SexCrime.esp=1SmallerAtronachs.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1Immersive Horses.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Eli's Coffee Mod.esp=1Craftable Horse Barding.esp=1Frostfall.esp=1Provincial Courier Service.esp=1Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp=1S_L_U_T_S.esp=1NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp=1Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp=1Cloaks - USLEEP Patch.esp=1Candlespell.esp=1BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp=1Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Housecarls.esp=1R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp=1Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp=1TTRMarieRose.esp=1Veronika the Thief.esp=1RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp=1_sunya.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1ZazResources.esp=1HHairstyles.esp=1NoraceFollower.esp=1MoreNastyCritters.esp=1HornyDragons.esp=1HornyDragsMNCAddon.esp=1HornyHorses.esp=1HornyBoars.esp=1Last Rites.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1Donyaakin.esp=1Companion_Ria.esp=1SexLabDefeat.esp=1mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1Get Out Of My Way.esp=1FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp=1XPMSE.esp=1SOSRaceMenu.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0 The hands thing returns if I am wearing cloths and change something in the CBBE menu in ramemenu, but goes away if I take my cloths off and put them back on again. However I still do not have functional HDT breast and butt.... Thoughts?
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