I Live! [WIP] In Soviet Tamriel, companion rapes you!

[Captain Oblivious]

Look what I figured out how to do. I might have to fix the texture' date=' but I have conquered beards.

 

And now I really need to sleep.

 

Basically, I just followed the instructions on Beards SDK. http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8393. He is of the NordBeard race.

 

And yes, we can make a beardless version. However I had to do weird things to his chin to make it stop clipping around the lower lip, so he'd look pretty ugly right now.

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Congrats on the beard - looks a bit odd, but You're really close. Yup a van dyke is very much right I reckon.

Thought you'd slip Gunnar past me, ey?

Well cool!

Sleep well....

Cheers

 

It does look odd, that's why I'm not releasing an update for it and might just change it back... but I now know how!

 

[Ragged Robin]

Look what I figured out how to do. I might have to fix the texture' date=' but I have conquered beards.

 

And now I really need to sleep.

 

Basically, I just followed the instructions on Beards SDK. http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8393. He is of the NordBeard race.

 

And yes, we can make a beardless version. However I had to do weird things to his chin to make it stop clipping around the lower lip, so he'd look pretty ugly right now.

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Congrats on the beard - looks a bit odd, but You're really close. Yup a van dyke is very much right I reckon.

Thought you'd slip Gunnar past me, ey?

Well cool!

Sleep well....

Cheers

 

It does look odd, that's why I'm not releasing an update for it and might just change it back... but I now know how!

 

 

In order to set the beard, are you using this:

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10674

to create a spare slot?

Keep in mind I don't understand the beard mod one jot.

Just curious.

cheers

[Captain Oblivious]

No--I just replaced the upper teeth nif with the beard nif... this looks interesting, though.

[Ragged Robin]

No--I just replaced the upper teeth nif with the beard nif... this looks interesting' date=' though.

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Thought it might - I found out about it through dlding Emma's Vilja Mod and it was recommended for use when customising Vilja's look.

Who knows? It might be useful.

cheers

[Riggswolfe]

Wow you're starting to make progress. Quite impressive! As for the sex, I find the easiest way to figure this out is to open the lover's mods in geck and sort of reverse engineer it. I believe it works like the New Vegas mod I've been helping with and passes a token which more or less triggers the animation.

 

If you do your mods as a plugin to Lovers with PK you won't have to do any of your own animating nor do much scripting in that regard. You just send the command to start the animation and it starts it up for you.

 

 

[Captain Oblivious]

ATTENTION READERS: IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS MOD COMPLETED, PLEASE ANSWER THE POLL! It will help me determine dialog and getissex (?) options.

 

That's exactly what I'm trying to do right now--I think I can probably slow the animations down too, at least in blender. The problem is it isn't working. Of course, I just realized that I might have to open the construction set in OBSE, so maybe this was all just me using the wrong program.

 

 

[Riggswolfe]

ATTENTION READERS: IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS MOD COMPLETED' date=' PLEASE ANSWER THE POLL! It will help me determine dialog and getissex (?) options. [/b']

 

That's exactly what I'm trying to do right now--I think I can probably slow the animations down too, at least in blender. The problem is it isn't working. Of course, I just realized that I might have to open the construction set in OBSE, so maybe this was all just me using the wrong program.

 

 

 

I've been looking at speeding up some animations in Fallout. There is a program called Nifskope that opens kf files. There is a variable in there called frequency which appears to be useable to change speeds.

 

 

[Captain Oblivious]

Riggswolfe, thank you for that! I think I'll be using it when I get to that point.

 

Everyone else: I have put up another poll (I can only have one per thread!). This one's about what race you might use to play the mod. You can choose multiple options.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=1553

 

 

[Captain Oblivious]

Also, I FIXED THE BEARD YAY!

 

I'll have an updated screenshot up when I get home.

[Daguy]

Don;t suppose you could have him be called anythign but a Robin? I have a close friend called that, and after a Oblivion session with my PC being uterly dominated and debased by him, the last thing I want to do is go out for a pint with Robin and the other lads. I'd not be able to look at him without feeling ill. xD

[Ragged Robin]

Don;t suppose you could have him be called anythign but a Robin? I have a close friend called that' date=' and after a Oblivion session with my PC being uterly dominated and debased by him, the last thing I want to do is go out for a pint with Robin and the other lads. I'd not be able to look at him without feeling ill. xD

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You got it the wrong way round. I suggested some viking based names for the good Captain's creation and one of them was chosen. My real name is not Robin either. It's just the name I use on this Forum. After a character in Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles".

Now.

This is the good Captain's thread here. Sorry for the accidental hijack. Center stage Captain O.

Cheers

[Captain Oblivious]

I don't mind thread jacks!

 

But I am now incredibly tempted to have an NPC named Robin.

 

Anyway--I see from the poll that we have a couple players who would be using male characters. Are you interested in being playtesters? I could use opinions on aspects of the story in the future. And I'd be discrete.

[Captain Oblivious]

Guys, I just got an idea. Really want to help me?

 

I've been talking about the characters I'm writing, and about what assumptions the story will make about the player character.

 

However,I don't know what you're thinking about YOUR character--and judging from the response this has gotten in only a couple days I'm figuring some of you have ideas. Tell me about your character ideas? Hell, even post a screenshot if it already exists.

 

EDIT: Here, finally have the beard screenshot. This is in the tavern he and his men have taken over.

[Ragged Robin]

Guys' date=' I just got an idea. Really want to help me?

 

I've been talking about the characters I'm writing, and about what assumptions the story will make about the player character.

 

However,I don't know what you're thinking about YOUR character--and judging from the response this has gotten in only a couple days I'm figuring some of you have ideas. Tell me about your character ideas? Hell, even post a screenshot if it already exists.

 

EDIT: Here, finally have the beard screenshot. This is in the tavern he and his men have taken over.

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Gongrats on the beard,it looks like you got it bang on.

I only seem to play innocent looking Dunmer females. Rain, my current one has two sons that will occasionally fight at her side. Note that she doesn't look like a typical Dunmer, with her Annie Lennox hairstyle and brown eyes. I see her though, as having the uncertain temper, great pride and fierceness that is often associated with her race.

There is one other character I play and that's my David Tennant look-alike complete in lore breaking blue business suit, Sonic Screwdriver in hand with TARDIS nearby. He would be completely unsuitable for this mod as I roleplay him very close to the character of the good Dr. The Jarl would find his most trusted lieutenant would have ousted him and declared a democracy within 24 hours.

Rain on the other hand, would take the sub route if she thought that it would ensure the safety of her children. And would consider no sacrifice too great to keep them free from harm (possible hostage situation?).

For the Jarl, she would be a prize catch. Virginity loses out to proven fertility any time; as far a I understand, virginity wasn't a concept much to be valued in many "barbarian" cultures. That sort of thinking belonged in more "civilised" cultures. Rome or Sparta for example.

One possible post capture scenario: He finds her hidden stash of contraceptives....

 

Family pic below:

 

[Captain Oblivious]

Thanks.

 

Oh, and... please, don't play with Doctor Who. I don't care how sexy the suit is.

 

[Ragged Robin]

Thanks.

 

Oh' date=' and... please, don't play with Doctor Who. I don't care how sexy the suit is.

 

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Had no intention of doing so, honest! As I said, He'd be completely unsuitable. I'd been messing with the character as I'd been toying with a few mod ideas of my own. Another modder had asked me to.

I've always been more interested in character development for Rain anyway.

She has had many incarnations so far. Her current scenario is one that fascinates me. That of the protective mother in a hostile world, who will do what she must just to get by. Small wonder you don't see kids in Oblivion, the attrition rate must be horrendous.

She will have a fresh start again for this mod. I keep her head and import it with each new game, using Wrye Bash.

Cheers

[Captain Oblivious]

Too much Viking Answer Lady for me. I'm going to call this the Ragged Robin update. You'll see why in Gunnar's speech.

 

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3e116v

 

I've removed all instances of Test Brute and Test Gilda from the market district; you can now only access them by typing ~, then coc testraidertavern.

 

What's changed:

 

1. Gunnar now has a beard--a decent one.

2. I've altered the dialogue somewhat to make it harsher.

3. I have included gender-specific dialogue during the sex scene and slightly more choices, including a "but I'm straight!" protest for male characters.

4. Gilda is now at the top of the steps. I'll be adding lighting, don't worry.

 

Remember, this is meant to be several events into the quest!

[Guest]

Too much Viking Answer Lady for me. I'm going to call this the Ragged Robin update. You'll see why in Gunnar's speech.

 

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3e116v

 

I've removed all instances of Test Brute and Test Gilda from the market district; you can now only access them by typing ~' date=' then coc testraidertavern.

 

What's changed:

 

1. Gunnar now has a beard--a decent one.

2. I've altered the dialogue somewhat to make it harsher.

3. I have included gender-specific dialogue during the sex scene and slightly more choices, including a "but I'm straight!" protest for male characters.

4. Gilda is now at the top of the steps. I'll be adding lighting, don't worry.

 

Remember, this is meant to be several events into the quest!

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Thanks for your hard work!

[Captain Oblivious]

No, thank you. : D

 

Note: if your character consents (the 'yes sir' option) then there will be an xlovers conversation option after the encounter. This must be because I forgot to click "goodbye" on topics. Consider it a feature for now--you can use it to test sex animations and proportions for when the real thing comes out. I know I was. >_>

[Long Truc Phuc]

Is there actual sex already or only dialog? When there's sex I'm gonna play this for sure... or better saying, when I get bored of NV and its awesome sex mods I will probably switch back to Oblivion to test a few recently installed mods(including this one).

[Captain Oblivious]

There's dialog describing sex. There IS a sex scene, but it's more like erotica than a movie at this point. I'm still trying to make the animations work. They will be added, though.

 

 

[Ragged Robin]

Thanks for the message, I picked it up immediately after waking.

Just ran through your update. thank you, that was so lovely - made me grin. Hey you even put in an accent or two! Is it just me, or is it difficult to distinguish a comma from a full point onscreen? I know my eyes are deteriorating, (I'm an old git) but it's a dreadful default font that Bethesda use.

Just a couple of observations (usual disclaimer - This is your mod, accept or ignore comments as you see fit ):

Do you think that "I am Gunnar Wulfsson, Jarl of...." Might flow better? I like the idea that his speech patterns are short. Clipped. - More like he's more used to barking orders than eloquent discourse. To me, the barbarian mind is like an iceburg, you only see the smallest part of it. Most of the motives and thinking are going on very deep down. I think you know that already. That's the reason he has someone to speak for him (Gilda).

Which brings me to the conversation with Gilda. I think I would prefer she initiates the conversation rather than the player. That conversation is the key to the player's relationship with Gunnar, as it has to set the scene and the boundaries for the player.

Before all the above takes place, the way I see it.

Player is taken and knocked out. Before coming to, experiences a series of "dreams" which could be expressed in a series of message boxes. Text would be filled with jumbled meassages and half understood impressions. I've seen this used by David Brasher in his "Virtuous Blood" expansion. Player is awakened by one of Gunnar's men and led downstairs. Since player is naked, comments can be heard by Player from G's men about the player's "attributes" in a lascivious manner (the rape or "rape" will be public, right?). The trouble for you would be that it would need to be gender specific to complete the humiliation process. For a bloke it would be something to insult his masculinity and pride insinuations of effeminacy and the like. For a lass, think anything that might make your ears burn in shame. Don't hold back for either gender, as has been posted earlier, this mod won't be for a Nexus audience with their delicate sensibilities.

The meeting:

More or less as you have it. I say more or less as I have the feeling that you, being a writer, will keep going back to your dialogue and polishing it till you are satisfied.

Post conversations, sleep and then we, your audience players will go where you indicate. Gunnar leads at first on a few raids perhaps? With the player being expected to fight alongside G's men on an equal footing even though being a mere Thrall. I might suggest a carrot is dangled before the player. Hints that good behaviour and valiant fighting would lead to gaining Freeman status. No more "public performances" once Freeman status achieved. The shock would come that Gunnar would still own the player's "ass". Tension would be maintained as the player could never be certain how Gunnar will react each time they are alone. Gunnar could run through the whole range from tough to tender, as expressed in his dialogue.

Re: Your comment on erotica. This may be a sweeping generalisation but women tend to write erotica and men write mere porn. Erotica, to me is much more interesting. Only a lass could have written "L'Histoire d'O", for example. I'm not against animations by any means, I just think that it's mostly banal window dressing without good writing to support it. It's all about context, you see (and I believe you do).

Sorry to spout at the mouth so much here, It's just that the project fascinates me greatly and I'm keen to see how you progress with it.

 

BTW, Gunnar got his BJ. Once the dialogue was over Loversadultplayplus kicked in...and I simply could not resist...despite my earlier comment. lol!

I look forward, greatly to further developments.

btw supplemental:

Like the Avatar and signature pics? They are added as much as to say I feel that I'm on this forum for the duration. I've not encountered a bunch of folk that I felt so comfortable with, that I wanted to stay on a forum before.

I love King Mob's statement below seeing as he has two women and a transsexual at his back.

[Captain Oblivious]

That IS a lot of text, Robin! And I don't mind at all. I'm probably going to have to answer you twice, though (once here and once where I'm headed!)

 

First--the first thing I typed was Wulfsson! However, I was afraid that players less familiar with that naming convention might not quite get it and just think Wulfsson is his family name. I'm a stickler that way. Subsequent refferences to Gunnar Wulfsson might make more sense if your first introduction is to "son of Wulf." My image of Gunnar is that he is blunt, but also a stickler for tradition, and that might be the traditional manner in which he introduces himself.

 

I also like that Gilda initiates a conversation after the first encounter... but if that's the case, the conversation about the rape might have to come later. I'd like to build up to that, maybe let the unsuspecting noble adventurer think they're getting off with blowjobs for a couple in-game days, and I'm not sure Gilda would even say these things to a stranger.

 

Gotta run to the library--yay grad school. More later!

 

Edit: Just checked the poll. Looks like about 17.5% are interested in playing a male character as well as a female character. That's roughly the same percentage that play female characters in Mass Effect 2 according to Kotaku. More modders should drop the "getsexis female" thing...

[Captain Oblivious]

Hey! I'm back. More comments:

 

Regarding your idea about raids--yes, I absolutely wanted to player to go raiding with Gunnar and his men. The one problem is organizing these raids (beyond just scripting). See, I need a place to be raided that won't mess with too many quests (I was thinking Gottlesfront Priory might be a good option as I don't think it's quest related and it should be easy to add a few more npcs). Or I could simply warn the player to do those quests first. Another option would be to have them operating as bandits and highwaymen, lying in wait to ambush travellers on the road--the mod that adds more traffic might be useful for that.

 

On winning freedman status: I like that idea, too... but I'd want that to come a bit later in the questline. Perhaps the player ends up having to earn his price (thralls could buy their freedom but were still locked in a patron-client relationship and could be re-thralled for not being respectful enough, according to the Viking Answer Lady). Brief freedom and then a return to thrall status could be fun.

 

I VERY MUCH LIKE your insults idea, and the dream idea... overhearing people talking while you're dazed could be a great way to introduce characters.

 

Animations: I kind of agree with you, for a slightly different reason. I want animations, but I'm finding both the existing aminations and my animation/scripting ability not up to what I need. If I use animations with the text I'm locked into describing what the animations do--which is limiting as a writer, at least until I can make my own which I'd like to do. Case in point is the bj. I'd originally planned to have Gunnar sitting on the worn down throne against the wall during the entire thing; he is after all Jarl. However, I knew I couldn't make a decently convincing animation anytime soon and that having Gunnar sitting down would mean he's looking up at the player during the exchange, which doesn't make much sense. So I had to alter my plans, which is bad when sex is part of characterization. I want this guy to bend the player character over tables, shove them against walls, and be very, very mean. I also want xlovers compatibility, though. One hybrid option would be to make plot-important sex scenes in the present format, and then make subsequent demands for service take the form of xlovers animations. The trick would be to make sure Gunnar only forces plot-appropriate actions (again, not fucking the player before he's officially taken their virginity).

 

Using mostly text for plot would also mean I'd able to start modding soon after Skyrim is released. I got an idea yesterday, and it'd be even more twisted than this one.

 

And the picture is awesome.

 

[Captain Oblivious]

A CHALLENGE:

 

I'm currently working on a sex scene. However, I don't want to release another update to TestBrute.esp until I get a simple quest scripted, which might take time.

 

Earlier I requested that people send me their concepts for player characters with which to play this mod. Knowing what people in general are bringing to the mod might help me write a better companion character.

 

So I'm going to add an incentive. If you send me one of those concepts (either in the thread or in a private message), I'll let you get a sneak peek of the adult scene I'm working on (remember, it's a WIP) within the next couple days. Sound good? Get writing!