Alan47 Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 Hi, I have a mod setup consisting of 200+ mods. It has been a lot of work, but my game used to be quite stable. Yesterday I wanted to try "Vivid Weather". However, I constantly get a crash to desktop (Skyrim stopped working...) when trying to run it. Is that a known problem with vivid weathers? Is there any way for me to tell why the game crashes? I have papyrus trace logging enabled, but the log doesn't show any errors related to vivid weathers, and neither does the SKSE log. Could it be that my game is running out of graphic card memory? Or main memory? Is there any way for me to tell what exactly is happening? Thanks, Alan
Smut Goblin Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 First the obvious question, do you have any other mods that modify weather, lighting etc? Maybe you missed one, can happen if you have such a large list. Does it crash instantly on loading? Or when saving (and/or autosaving)? Or just randomly during gameplay? There should not be any incompatibility with Loverslab stuff, am also using it with around the same amount of mods.
Yuni Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 I always remind people that make threads like this that sometimes I'd like to title them "Skyrim being installed causes game crash on loading." Once your save file has enough scripts in it, memory concerns make your operating system force-close the program the first time you load a game from the main menu. This is just how Skyrim is with a bunch of mods in it, and there's workarounds, such as using the command 'coc riverwood' on the main menu to warp to Riverwood as a generic character, THEN load your game. If this is what is wrong with your file, there is nothing wrong with your file, it's just a complex file that has a lot of information to load. OR you can use http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78557/? Continue Game No Crash for it to automate that process for you... but do remember if you use this mod it won't warn you if mods are missing when you try to load the first time. But none of that will help you if it always crashes, and not just when you load your file from the main menu.
Alan47 Posted April 29, 2017 Author Posted April 29, 2017 Hi folks, first of all, thanks for the help. Here's my load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 RaceCompatibility.esm 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a hdtHighHeel.esm 11 b TERAArmors.esm 12 c DynamicLoot.esm 13 d PubicMeshColorRE.esm 14 e OSA.esm 15 f Heels Sound.esm 16 10 Evil Lair of Hydra.esm 17 11 SMSkyrim.esp 18 12 BBLuxurySuite.esm 19 13 notice board.esp 20 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 21 15 UndergroundBathhouse.esm 22 16 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm 23 17 GeneralStores.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp 24 18 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 25 19 AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp 26 1a AHZmoreHUD.esp 27 1b towConversation.esp 28 1c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 29 1d DrSKnapsacks.esp 30 1e Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp 31 1f HDT Capes.esp 32 20 Hair Physics Project.esp 33 21 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp 34 22 SkyCompleteLegendary.esp 35 23 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 36 24 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 37 25 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 38 26 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 39 27 MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp 40 28 Brows.esp 41 29 NoNakedComments.esp 42 2a SOS Schlong Controller.esp 43 2b NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 44 2c NusbieVoices.esp 45 2d 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp 46 2e Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp 47 2f RaceMenu.esp 48 30 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 49 31 SOS Equipable Schlong.esp 50 32 Extended UI.esp 51 33 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 52 34 SGEyebrows.esp 53 35 Facelight.esp 54 36 SOSRaceMenu.esp 55 37 SexLab Cumshot.esp 56 38 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp 57 39 SkyUI.esp 58 3a ELFX - Exteriors.esp 59 3b SCO Summer Edition.esp 60 3c JKs Skyrim.esp 61 3d TrueEyes.esp 62 3e When Vampires Attack.esp 63 3f sr_ifpssl.esp 64 40 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 65 41 Dark Souls Combat.esp 66 42 ImmersiveFP.esp 67 43 XPMSE.esp 68 44 DynamicLoot_DB.esp 69 45 DynamicLoot_DG.esp 70 46 SexLabSquirtR.esp 71 47 FNIS.esp 72 48 12FemaleBrows.esp 73 49 SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp 74 4a Craftable_Hair_groin.esp 75 4b SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp 76 4c SexLab Extra Voices.esp 77 4d SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 78 4e Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 79 4f Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 80 50 KS Hairdo's.esp 81 51 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 82 52 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp 83 53 NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp 84 54 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp 85 55 Rebirth Monster.esp 86 56 AOS.esp 87 57 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 88 58 ELFXEnhancer.esp 89 59 Forgotten DungeonsAll.esp 90 5a MIHAILDAGON.esp 91 5b Combat Evolved.esp 92 5c Immersive detection of NPC.esp 93 5d Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp 94 5e Proper Aiming.esp 95 5f Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 96 60 SCO Summer Edition - Water.esp 97 61 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 98 62 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 99 63 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 100 64 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 101 65 FollowerEmily.esp 102 66 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 103 67 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 104 68 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 105 69 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 106 6a Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 107 6b HDT Havok Object.esp 108 6c Tera Armor Level List.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 109 6d Immersive Weapons.esp 110 6e Ambriel.esp 111 6f ELFX - Weathers.esp 112 70 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp 113 71 SOTGenesisMod.esp 114 72 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 115 73 Run For Your Lives.esp 116 74 Cloaks.esp 117 75 Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp 118 76 SassyTeen.esp 119 77 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 120 78 LC_immersiveLoot.esp 121 79 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 122 7a RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 123 7b More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp 124 7c AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 125 7d Bijin Wives.esp 126 7e Bijin NPCs.esp 127 7f BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp 128 80 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp 129 81 Atlas Legendary.esp 130 82 nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp 131 83 Skyshards.esp 132 84 Nemain.esp 133 85 Darkend.esp 134 86 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 135 87 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 136 88 darkproject.esp 137 89 YurianaWench.esp 138 8a BrynhildrFollower.esp 139 8b Revealing Ebony Nocturna.esp 140 8c MistySkye.esp 141 8d S_mink.esp 142 8e Sneak Tools.esp 143 8f Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 144 90 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 145 91 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 146 92 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 147 93 Equipping Overhaul.esp 148 94 notice board - dragonborn patch.esp 149 95 Follower - Rebecca & Viletta.esp 150 96 StoneHeartMicroBikini.esp 151 97 ub_cell_bedroom.esp 152 98 ub_cell_dislayroom.esp 153 99 ub_cell_darkarea.esp 154 9a ub_cell_cavern.esp 155 9b ub_cell_maintenance_room.esp 156 9c ub_cell_kitchen.esp 157 9d ub_cell_teleportroom.esp 158 9e SLbikini.esp 159 9f BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp 160 a0 amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp 161 a1 Mutimuti Archer Loe.esp 162 a2 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 163 a3 Apron.esp 164 a4 Luxury Collection.esp 165 a5 Luxury Collection Vendor.esp 166 a6 Arcane Knicker.esp 167 a7 Inner Suit.esp 168 a8 MiniBikini.esp 169 a9 UIExtensions.esp 170 aa AddItemMenu2.esp 171 ab ub_cell_armory.esp 172 ac ub_tapestry.esp 173 ad ub_invite_any_npc.esp 174 ae ub_npc_rework.esp 175 af Giada.esp 176 b0 LunaFollower.esp 177 b1 Jeri.esp 178 b2 Finnia.esp 179 b3 Chaconne.esp 180 b4 Gata.esp 181 b5 Alana Version 1.2.esp 182 b6 PickDefaultFollowerArmor.esp 183 b7 ScrapArmor.esp 184 b8 Cher.esp 185 b9 sandboxcylinderheight.esp 186 ba Toccata.esp 187 bb CaesiaFollower.esp 188 bc Ruru.esp 189 bd TwinSildaril.esp 190 be Asherz_The_Alchemist.esp 191 bf PuppetMaster.esp 192 c0 DF_Dianest.esp 193 c1 Sunsakuka's Follower.esp 194 c2 Lucila Dragon.esp 195 c3 FollowerSoletta.esp 196 c4 Promise.esp 197 c5 Realistic-Voice.esp 198 c6 SMSkyrim - Compressed.esp 199 c7 SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp 200 c8 DeadlyDragons.esp 201 c9 FloraRespawnFix.esp 202 ca rtZuleikaFollower.esp 203 cb FISS.esp 204 cc LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 205 cd WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 206 ce BrajornLoadingNSFW.esp 207 cf AMatterOfTime.esp 208 d0 FloppySOS.esp 209 d1 ContinueGameNoCrash.esp 210 d2 attack commitment movement speed fluid 3.esp 211 d3 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 212 d4 AOS2_DD Patch.esp 213 d5 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 214 d6 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 215 d7 AOS_SCO Summer Edition Patch.esp 216 d8 MLU.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp I'm running Skyrim Legendary (not SE) on a Windows 10 x64 with a 970ti, an i7 and 32GB of RAM (not that the latter matters much for Skyrim...). First the obvious question, do you have any other mods that modify weather, lighting etc? Maybe you missed one, can happen if you have such a large list. RealVision ENB and ELFX, SCO Summer Edition and a bunch of texture packs. Nothing directly related to weather right now. I know, the vivid weathers author says that vivid weathers is in general incompatible to ENBs except for a few selected ones. The way I interpret "incompatible" here is "it won't look exactly like in the screenshots", not as in "crashes your game". But that's just my interpretation, please feel free to correct me. Does it crash instantly on loading? Or when saving (and/or autosaving)? Or just randomly during gameplay? It crashes on loading, every time, and instantly (i.e. I don't even get out of the loading screen). I get to the main menu, hit "continue", and then windows tells me that "Skyrim has stopped working". This is very unusual for my setup. Usually either CrashFixes tells me that "skyrim failed to setup foot ik" (this one is pretty much random) or the game just quits without prior notice. Getting message boxes from windows directly is new. I get crashes during gameplay very *very* rarely in my Skyrim. Maybe one in a 10 hour session. That's really not an issue, thank goodness. If you check my load order, you will also find: - Crash Fixes - Safety Load - Continue Game No Crash Without the Vivid Weathers mod, the game is perfectly stable, but as soon as I switch it on, it crashes. That puzzles me, because... it's just a *weather* mod. Not a skeleton, not a script-mess quest, nothing of that sort. When I remove Vivid Weathers from the list (uncheck it in mod organizer) and run the game, everything's fine. As soon as I re-enable it, things go south on the loading screen. But none of that will help you if it always crashes, and not just when you load your file from the main menu. You're absolutely right. I'm in this situation with Vivid Weathers. Which is why I try to figure out the reason why the game crashes on load (even with safety load, crash fixes, and continue game no crash enabled). But the logs are clean, I've no idea how to proceed in finding the culprit here. Which is why I created this thread
Alan47 Posted April 29, 2017 Author Posted April 29, 2017 Sorry for double-posting. I think I have another issue somewhere in my setup. As it turns out, the CTD now also occurs without Vivid Weathers, and I can't even start a new game anymore. Something's definitly fishy here, and I think I'll have to dig deeper into my load order to find the issue. Sorry for the trouble, but I doubt that Vivid Weathers is to blame, it just happened to be the most recent mod I installed. EDIT: I think I've located the culprit. I recently installed "Maids 2 Deception" for a new, fresh play-through. Apparently, that mod caused troubles for me. There have been some errors in the Papyrus logs, and overall this mod apparently is extremely script-heavy (the author says so himself). Maybe this was just too much for my already heavily modified game. Removed it, and everything's good again, including Vivid Weathers
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