Can't attack? Invisible bodie(s)? Alternate Start not working properly?

BiddinWar · April 28, 2017

EDIT: I've edited accordingly to changes I should do mentioned by the people below.

These include rearange of Creature Framework/More Nasty Critters + "Cleaning" SexLab. NEW issues have been found in the meanwhile though, and I don't know why. Newest issues are below. Will mark with "New"

Thank you to all for helping me solve my issues.

Hi

I'm having an issue where my PC can't attack with any kind of weapon (Ranged, Melee, Magic). I could attack fine until my PC was apparently "restrained" by some Devious Devices items. I got a key eventually and managed to unlock devices that would restrain my arm movement, but that didn't help either..

I've followed http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2551-crash-fixes/ to try and minimize any possible crashes and the like, I've also read carefully each mods page (I don't think I've missed anything, but I'm not going to say the chance isn't there). I can go through every single mods MCM Menu as well and provide you with a list of the exact settings if that would also help.

I'm using Mod Organizer to install mods with, so if there is a possible issue there do say. Last time I modded Skyrim was in 2012 so yeah..

Load Order

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 SexLab.esm
7 7 SexLabAroused.esm
8 8 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
9 9 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
10 a Devious Devices - Integration.esm
11 b Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
12 c DeviousFramework.esm
13 d hdtHighHeel.esm
14 e Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
15 f CreatureFramework.esm
16 10 HighResTexturePack01.esp
17 11 HighResTexturePack02.esp
18 12 HighResTexturePack03.esp
19 13 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
20 14 SkyUI.esp
21 15 FNIS.esp
22 16 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
23 17 XPMSE.esp
24 18 RaceMenu.esp
25 19 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
26 1a RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
27 1b BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
28 1c BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp
29 1d KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
30 1e UIExtensions.esp
31 1f Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
32 20 SerialStrip.esp
33 21 SerialStripper.esp
34 22 zzEstrus.esp
35 23 EstrusChaurus.esp
36 24 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
37 25 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
38 26 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
39 27 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
40 28 SOSRaceMenu.esp
41 29 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
42 2a xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
43 2b SLKidnapped.esp
44 2c Captured Dreams.esp
45 2d SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
46 2e SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
47 2f SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
48 30 HentaiCreatures.esp
49 31 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
50 32 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
51 33 Devious Deviants.esp
52 34 SimpleSlavery.esp
53 35 SexLab_Dialogues.esp
54 36 SOS - Shop.esp
55 37 FNISspells.esp
56 38 Devious Devices - Equip.esp
57 39 FtM_3.esp
58 3a DfwSupport.esp
59 3b SexLabDefeat.esp
60 3c mslDeviousCaptures.esp
61 3d SLAnimLoader.esp
62 3e SexLabTools.esp
63 3f SLALAnimObj.esp
64 40 SLKidnapped_DeviousAddon.esp
65 41 SlaveTats.esp
66 42 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
67 43 MoreNastyCritters.esp
68 44 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
69 45 SexLabWerewolves.esp
70 46 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
71 47 Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp
72 48 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp

Priority Order in Mod Organizer

Dawnguard

HearthFires

Dragonborn

USLEEP

HighRes 1

HighRes 2

HighRes 3

UHRSP

SKSE 1.7.3 - Scripts

Crash Fixes v12

SkyIU

JContainers

UIExtensions

FNIS - Behaviour Main

FNIS - SPells Addon-on

FNIS - Creature Pack

FNIS - Output (Files generated by FNIS tool)

Fuz ro D-oh - Silent Voice

Realistic Ragdolls and Force

RaceMenu

Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-

SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim

HDT Physics Extensions

XP32 Maximum SKeleton Extended

Bodyslide and Outfit Studio

THEHAGs Private Tattoos - CBBE

THEHAGs Facial Tattoos - CBBE - Female

KS Hairdos - HDT Physics

Auto Unequip Ammo

EZ2C Dialogue Menu

Serial Strip

Serial Stripper

HDT HighHeels System

SlaveTats

SlaveTats - Tattoo Pack (Combined all the Tattoo Packs from SlaveTats DL page minus the CN translated and Cum/HeavyCum)

Zaz Animation Pack v6.1

Zaz Animation Pack v6.11 Patch

Funnybizness Animation Pack fomod

SexLab - Animation Loader

SexLab - Framework v1.62

SexLab - Aroused v28b

SexLab - Creature Framework 1.1.0-preview2

SexLab - Defeat

SexLab - Tools v3.0

SexLab - Dialogues

SexLab - Kidnapped

SexLab - Aroused Creatures v04.0 Beta 05

SexLab - More NAsty Critters

SexLab - Werewolves

Dangerous Night 2

Devious Devices - Assets

Devious Devices - Integration

Devious Devices - Expansion

Devious Devices - Equip

Devious Devices - For the Masses

Devious Devices - Framework

Devious Devices - Framework Support

Devious Devices - Captured Dreams

Devious Captures

Deviously Cursed Loot

Devious Devices - SexLab - Kidnapped Add-on

Simple Slavery - Base 4.72

Simple Slavery - Extension 1.1

Simple Slavery - Defeat Patch 5.3.5

Skooma Whore

Skooma Whore 1.0 patch

Estrus For Skyrim

Estrus Chaurus+

xaz Prison Overhaul v033 fix

xaz Prison Overhaul v033 Patch 8Q

Alternate Start - Live Another Life

Alternate Start - Live a Deviant Life

SKSE - Plugins Output (No idea what this is, but these files appeared sometimes in the "Overwrite" fake-mod and after looking at what they contained it was only SKSE/Plugins/X, so I created this "Plugins Output" mod then)

This seems to be working more stable now after using these mentioned changes.

This one must be before Sexlab nude creatures.

67 43 MoreNastyCritters.esp

This one should be placed close to the end in your left side.

JContainers

This one must be loaded after MNC in your left side.

SexLab - Creature Framework 1.1.0-preview2

You need to sort up your left side since it is basic your installation order. It is wrong.

You should also download and install latest Papyrus

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Also, found some "possible" issue with Alternate Start - Live Another Life + Live a Deviant Life.

If I use the "I'm a kidnapped princess" my body will be invisible.. I don't know why

If I try using the "vanilla" start through the Mara statue I will crash and be unable to load that save (Inside Helgen Keep only)

Using "Escaped slave" option doesn't do anything other than but I'm in some devices, get "recaptured" (I say this because I assume this is whats supposed to happen) but it doesn't proceed.

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Some DD items result in a invisible body. Horse hoves, Armbinder in "Kidnapped Princess" and some Gloves are the only ones I've seen doing this.

Could this issue be some load order/plugin order fault ?

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Minor side question- Not really important, but would be nice to know.

Sex scenes that get started generally seem to start with both characters inside of each other and then proceed to the actual animation. It works like this or is this something I've caused?

Uncle64 · April 28, 2017

This one must be before Sexlab nude creatures.

67 43 MoreNastyCritters.esp

This one should be placed close to the end in your left side.

JContainers

This one must be loaded after MNC in your left side.

SexLab - Creature Framework 1.1.0-preview2

You need to sort up your left side since it is basic your installation order. It is wrong.

You should also download and install latest Papyrus

KuteKatty · April 28, 2017

"clean" your sexlab via MCM, that should fix
same thing for Defeat, when a NPCS finishes animating and start saying "..." clean the defeat (just a example)

BiddinWar · April 28, 2017

This one must be before Sexlab nude creatures.

67 43 MoreNastyCritters.esp

This one should be placed close to the end in your left side.

JContainers

This one must be loaded after MNC in your left side.

SexLab - Creature Framework 1.1.0-preview2

You need to sort up your left side since it is basic your installation order. It is wrong.

You should also download and install latest Papyrus

I sorted the "left" side manually, since I barely found any information about them, so I went with what the mods were called and hoped they used a "logical" way of thinking when they made their mods. IE a Framework mod needs to be loaded BEFORE a "usage" mod. This is why Creature Framework ended up before More Nasty Critters.

I will sort accordingly to what you said now.

"clean" your sexlab via MCM, that should fix

same thing for Defeat, when a NPCS finishes animating and start saying "..." clean the defeat (just a example)

What do you mean "clean", reset the animations?

I've never had an NPC say "..." yet, but that could be because literally after my PC was thrown into the wild this happened..

How do I go about "cleaning" Defeat then?

Sorry for these utter noob questions..

KuteKatty · April 29, 2017

This one must be before Sexlab nude creatures.

67 43 MoreNastyCritters.esp

This one should be placed close to the end in your left side.

JContainers

This one must be loaded after MNC in your left side.

SexLab - Creature Framework 1.1.0-preview2

You need to sort up your left side since it is basic your installation order. It is wrong.

You should also download and install latest Papyrus

I sorted the "left" side manually, since I barely found any information about them, so I went with what the mods were called and hoped they used a "logical" way of thinking when they made their mods. IE a Framework mod needs to be loaded BEFORE a "usage" mod. This is why Creature Framework ended up before More Nasty Critters.

I will sort accordingly to what you said now.

"clean" your sexlab via MCM, that should fix

same thing for Defeat, when a NPCS finishes animating and start saying "..." clean the defeat (just a example)

What do you mean "clean", reset the animations?

I've never had an NPC say "..." yet, but that could be because literally after my PC was thrown into the wild this happened..

How do I go about "cleaning" Defeat then?

Sorry for these utter noob questions..

if you go in the sexlab "last option" wiull be there a option called "clean SexLab" but it will reset everything and you will need to edit everything you had before cleaning

save the preset with "import save" or something as do the clean, and when finishes load the order in the same option

Uncle64 · April 29, 2017

He must reset it anyway, since he cleans up his loadorder and priority order.

BiddinWar · April 29, 2017

This one must be before Sexlab nude creatures.

67 43 MoreNastyCritters.esp

This one should be placed close to the end in your left side.

JContainers

This one must be loaded after MNC in your left side.

SexLab - Creature Framework 1.1.0-preview2

You need to sort up your left side since it is basic your installation order. It is wrong.

You should also download and install latest Papyrus

I sorted the "left" side manually, since I barely found any information about them, so I went with what the mods were called and hoped they used a "logical" way of thinking when they made their mods. IE a Framework mod needs to be loaded BEFORE a "usage" mod. This is why Creature Framework ended up before More Nasty Critters.

I will sort accordingly to what you said now.

"clean" your sexlab via MCM, that should fix

same thing for Defeat, when a NPCS finishes animating and start saying "..." clean the defeat (just a example)

What do you mean "clean", reset the animations?

I've never had an NPC say "..." yet, but that could be because literally after my PC was thrown into the wild this happened..

How do I go about "cleaning" Defeat then?

Sorry for these utter noob questions..

if you go in the sexlab "last option" wiull be there a option called "clean SexLab" but it will reset everything and you will need to edit everything you had before cleaning

save the preset with "import save" or something as do the clean, and when finishes load the order in the same option

Ah okay, thank you.

BiddinWar · April 29, 2017

I've "cleaned" SexLab which seems to have made things smoother for now at least.

Though, I don't see a way of "cleaning" Defeat? I've checked its MCM several times but can't find anything? Is it located elsewhere?

Unless "cleaning" means Turning it off and then on.

I'm asking because I've had some NPCs when I initiate a dialogue they just say "..." then some options appear later.

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Also, found some "possible" issue with Alternate Start - Live Another Life + Live a Deviant Life.

If I use the "I'm a kidnapped princess" my body will be invisible.. I don't know why

If I try using the "vanilla" start through the Mara statue I will crash and be unable to load that save (Inside Helgen Keep only)

Using "Escaped slave" option doesn't do anything other than but im in some devices, get "recaptured" (I say this because I assume this is whats supposed to happen) but it doesn't proceed.

------------------------------

Some DD items result in a invisible body. Horse hoves, Armbinder in "Kidnapped Princess" and some Gloves are the only ones I've seen doing this.

Could this issue be some load order/plugin order fault ?

Uncle64 · April 29, 2017

If your body is invisible, then perhaps you are missing textures. Make sure that you check that your body mod is installed correct.

BiddinWar · May 1, 2017

If your body is invisible, then perhaps you are missing textures. Make sure that you check that your body mod is installed correct.

Its only invisible when certain Devious Devices are equipped. Such as harness, pony boots, long sleeve gloves

If my character strips its fine

Uncle64 · May 1, 2017

Then perhaps you have them loaded in wrong order, check your left side in MO.

You can easy see what conflicts, Red or Green. Lightning bolt.

BiddinWar · May 4, 2017

Then perhaps you have them loaded in wrong order, check your left side in MO.

You can easy see what conflicts, Red or Green. Lightning bolt.

Nothing is overwriting it or anything like that..

It overwrites BodyStudio ( https://i.gyazo.com/8be93496c2191233e51cb4328dbdab18.png ) I've tried switching up the order on BodyStudio and CBBE but that doesn't seem to matter at all.

LazyBoot · May 4, 2017

If your body is invisible, then perhaps you are missing textures. Make sure that you check that your body mod is installed correct.

Its only invisible when certain Devious Devices are equipped. Such as harness, pony boots, long sleeve gloves

If my character strips its fine

Did you remember to build the items in bodyslide?

^{Since you're using MO, you may need to use the custom output directory function and choose the MO overwrite dir.}

Uncle64 · May 4, 2017

Yes he needs that to.

BiddinWar · May 5, 2017

If your body is invisible, then perhaps you are missing textures. Make sure that you check that your body mod is installed correct.

Its only invisible when certain Devious Devices are equipped. Such as harness, pony boots, long sleeve gloves

If my character strips its fine

Did you remember to build the items in bodyslide?

^{Since you're using MO, you may need to use the custom output directory function and choose the MO overwrite dir.}

I have done this, after i installed all DD things.

The only thing I can think of that I'm doing wrong is that there are SO MANY more bodies/outfit presets that I might have selected the wrong one.

I'm relatively new to the whole "heavy" modding scene, as I've generally only used texture mods and some minor quest mods before (Thats all that really existed last time I playd Skyrim) and the BodySuit Outfit Manager only since Fallout 4 got its version released and that has VASTLY less options than the Skyrim one.

So, I'll make it "easy" for all of us so to speak.

CBBE Curvy body, what "preset" in the program should I be selecting to get the "correct" one then?

(I understand that "correct" is a matter of preference but there is still a "wrong and right")

LazyBoot · May 5, 2017

I have done this, after i installed all DD things.

The only thing I can think of that I'm doing wrong is that there are SO MANY more bodies/outfit presets that I might have selected the wrong one.

I'm relatively new to the whole "heavy" modding scene, as I've generally only used texture mods and some minor quest mods before (Thats all that really existed last time I playd Skyrim) and the BodySuit Outfit Manager only since Fallout 4 got its version released and that has VASTLY less options than the Skyrim one.

So, I'll make it "easy" for all of us so to speak.

CBBE Curvy body, what "preset" in the program should I be selecting to get the "correct" one then?

(I understand that "correct" is a matter of preference but there is still a "wrong and right")

First, make sure to start bodyslide from within Mod Organizer.

Then make the choices highlighted i in red as number 1 and 2, then choose your preset and mess with the sliders as desired. ^{(If you do change the sliders, I believe you need to save the preset before doing the batch build)}

^{(You should also have a lot of DDa and DDx entries in that top box. If you don't you either didn't run it from MO, or something is wrong with your Devious Devices install and you'll need to reinstall DDa and DDx)}

Next hold ctrl press "Batch Build" and then OK.

This should bring up a box asking you to choose a folder, find the "overwrite" folder in MO.

Then make sure the highlighted setting is selected, and look over the list of other options for the other sets. And press OK when ready

And finally use the create a mod option on the overwrite folder within MO and call it something like "bodyslide output".

Uncle64 · May 6, 2017

Then perhaps you have them loaded in wrong order, check your left side in MO.

You can easy see what conflicts, Red or Green. Lightning bolt.

Nothing is overwriting it or anything like that..

It overwrites BodyStudio ( https://i.gyazo.com/8be93496c2191233e51cb4328dbdab18.png ) I've tried switching up the order on BodyStudio and CBBE but that doesn't seem to matter at all.

Sorry, I have been little off.

But your left side in MO is not correct. Did not check your picture until today.

Your left side is one mess. It cant work that way.

Can you please find this text file and post it here.

\MO\profiles\your current profile\plugins.txt

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