Oblivion Crashes While Exploring The Outside World (HELP)

[TrevorDaMan]

I recently started moding oblivion and thought it was as simple as just put the archives contents in to the data folder,I quickly found out I was wrong and started using LOOT and BOSS to sort my load order and when I found out that they weren't able to sort my piles of mods correctly I went to the http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28162-newbies-5-simple-ways-to-avoid-most-crashes-and-bugs/ -newbie tips topic.

 

I quickly found out I made a big mistake and didn't put my mods in one by one then all at once and still not listening to the testing the mods one by one I started sorting my load order manually as much as I could while being too lazy to read readme's from the mods(yea another mistake).

 

So yea now that the backstory is done lets get to my problem shall we?

 

I didn't notice anything not working till I started traveling the outside world by foot instead of by map teleportation.

 

While relentlessly trying to explore in peace I noticed the crashes were either random or specific depending on if I saved near the crash site or not.

 

My guess is its some random generation of a creature crashing me or something?

 

Anyways that's why I'm here I thought maybe any of you could have an idea whats going on based on my load order,mods and tell me if it needs fixing.

 

And give me some pointers of how I can use OBMM and or TES4 Edit to find errors and incompatibilities,identify and solve them efficiently(because I am too lazy to look it up and read it all)

 

Thank you for your time!

 

Load Order.rtf

Load Order V2.rtf

 

 

[fejeena]

Your load order is a mess.

 

Never use LOOT !!!

First run BOSS.

then sort the Mods BOSS did not sort manually in the Oblivion Mod manager(clothes Mods to sorted clothes Mods, Quest Mods to sorted quest Mods, .....Sort them in about alphabetically within the categories) BOSS put all the mods it does not know the end of the load order, but you must sort these Mods !

You can also read http://wiki.theassimilationlab.com/tescosi/Load_Order#LO_Template

 

Then check if you have Mods that are not compatible with Lovers http://www.loverslab.com/topic/12494-mods-that-are-not-compatible-with-lovers/

 

Then sort your Lovers Mods manually

See my example load order http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbbmod-sorting-and-cleaningcs-cse-body-stretching/

 

Then you MUST start a new game ! The old bug is in your save !

 

[TrevorDaMan]

Figured as much ill try to sort it better this time(although I thought I sorted all my clothes and quest mods in the same category just not alphabetically) 

 

thanks for the help.

 

 

[TrevorDaMan]

Oh and here are all my OBSE plugins tell me if you see if there is something wrong with them

 

 

• OBSE Version: 0.0.21.4
• AddActorValues.dll
• AddActorValues_CS.dll
• Blockhead.dll Version: 10.3.8.512
• ConScribe.dll Version: 10.0.6.509
• MenuQue.dll
• OblivionReloaded.dll Version: 5.1.0.0
• OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll
• OBSE_EnhancedCamera.dll
• obse_jail_fix.dll
• OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll
• obse_training_fix.dll
• SeeYouSleep.dll
• sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll

[fejeena]

Some OBSE files I don't have ( I don't use OblivionReloaded ) but seems all fine. ( if they are all in data\OBSE\Plugins\  )

[TrevorDaMan]

Here is my second try at sorting only mods I'm not sure about are PSE(its in a wired spot) and Tamago FertilityClinic(since it kind of conflicts with Lovers Tamago Club?)
 
Well anyway here is the load order after BOSS and manual sorting(ill attach it above) tell me if it needs small tweaks since there weren't a lot of unrecognized mods.

[fejeena]

Better. i have not checked all your Mods with BOSS but it looks better.

But why Set body between the Lovers Mods, normally after lovers.

And  HiyokoFutureDream.esp up the the other Tamago/ Hiyoko Mods.

 

And my Horse rider Mod

ZAZHorseRidesYou.esp
LoversHorseRider.esp    The esp has a bug !

 

 Use LoversHorseRider2.esp ( and delete the ZAZHorseRidesYou.esp )

[TrevorDaMan]

Didn't know about the hiyoko one but SetBodyMess.esp and LoversJoystick require SetBody.esp to be above Lovers With PK.esp

 

Also what can I do if Lovers Tamago Club requires Lovers With PK.esm to be above TamgoClub.esm but Tamago Fertility Clinic requires the opposite? If that's a conflict that can't be solved then id rather use just one of them. 

[TrevorDaMan]

Ok so I did what you said and cleaned all my dirty mods with the help of your post so everything should be fine now?

 

There even wont be any problems if setbody isn't under lovers?

[fejeena]

You put Set Body under Lovers and SetBodyMess.esp and LoversJoystick after SetBody

 

LOVERS MODS

SetBody.esp

SetBodyMess.esp

LoversJoystick.esp

 

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Tamago Fertility Clinic: you are right the Master files are wrong. But it works because no entries of PK.esm and TamgoClub.esm are used in the Tamago Fertility Clinic.esp

 

But you can also change it with TES4Edit

Load the Tamago Fertility Clinic.esp

Open the tree and open "File Header"

Right click the line Masterfile above the Lovers with PK.esm

choose "move up"

Close TES4Edit, and save the esp.

[TrevorDaMan]

ok I sorted setbody and the others like you said but lovers joystick still says setbody needs to be above lovers with pk for some reason.

 

and when I tried to move the master file in tes4 edit like you said I got an access violation error and couldn't do it.

 

Also is it okay if player slave encounters is way above some mods where it usually is? since see you sleep DLL.esp requires it to be above.

[fejeena]

? I don't use lovers joystick, but you are right you must place Set Body "wrong".    ( don't know why the master file order is "wrong" in the esp , in all example load orders and even im BOSS Set body is after the Lovers Mods)

Ok Set Body above Lovers with PK esp

 

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Tamago Fertility Clinic.esp : yes you must compile the scripts with CS.

But too much work. The Mod works with wrong Masterfile order. Place it up to the other Tamago Mods.

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I also don't use PSE: but if must be above see you sleep DLL.esp it's ok where it is.

 

[TrevorDaMan]

Well I will continue testing the game and see if there are any major problems the only ones I found out are that at the start the custom race text  is wired and the blood pool textures are stretching like the stretchy penis bug for some reason(think its because of  oblivion reloaded not loading near the end like it usually did).