Trainee Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Apparently those amount of scripts are causing my Skyrim to crash. Was wondering what mods could be the culprit. As a side note, I also have a lot of spawn mods like OBIS or Immersive Patrols. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 7 7 Falskaar.esm 8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm 9 9 SGHairPackBase.esm 10 a Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 11 b fox_shop.esm 12 c ApachiiHair.esm 13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 14 e MFVM.esm 15 f RaceCompatibility.esm 16 10 TeenVoice.esm 17 11 SexLab.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 19 13 SexLabAroused.esm 20 14 PC Exclusive Voice Path.esm 21 15 Campfire.esm 22 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 23 17 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 24 18 JackGaPub.esm 25 19 daymoyl.esm 26 1a Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 27 1b brawlbug-plugin.esp 28 1c Player Size Adjuster.esp 29 1d SkyUI.esp 30 1e Customizable Camera.esp 31 1f SGHairPackAIO.esp 32 20 FISS.esp 33 21 AMatterOfTime.esp 34 22 UIExtensions.esp 35 23 Animations.esp 36 24 FNIS.esp 37 25 AddItemMenu.esp 38 26 When Vampires Attack.esp 39 27 performance tree.esp 40 28 RelightingSkyrim-Merged Patch.esp 41 29 performance rocks.esp 42 2a WetandCold.esp 43 2b Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 44 2c Point The Way.esp 45 2d RealisticWaterTwo.esp 46 2e AOS.esp 47 2f 3DNPC.esp 48 30 WhiterunHoldForest.esp 49 31 Random Merge Patch 1.esp 50 32 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 51 33 Rebirth Monster.esp 52 34 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 53 35 Random Spawn 1 Merged Pack.esp 54 36 Mystical Illumination - Glowing Signs with Point the Way.esp 55 37 Skyrim Performance Merged Patch.esp 56 38 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 57 39 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 58 3a Random Merge Patch 3.esp 59 3b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 60 3c Populated Skyrim Merged Patch.esp 61 3d Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 62 3e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 63 3f JiGuardDiversity.esp 64 40 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 65 41 High Level Enemies - SIC.esp 66 42 Rebith Monster - Merged Patch.esp 67 43 Replacer Merged Patch.esp 68 44 VioLens.esp 69 45 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 70 46 Luggage.esp 71 47 Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp 72 48 Run For Your Lives.esp 73 49 ThirdEraWars.esp 74 4a Weapons Merged Pack.esp 75 4b Frostfall.esp 76 4c Random Merge Patch 2.esp 77 4d LeafRest OnePiece.esp 78 4e SimpleSlavery.esp 79 4f ACE Merged Patch.esp 80 50 Cloaks.esp 81 51 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp 82 52 TKDodge.esp 83 53 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 84 54 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 85 55 RaceMenu.esp 86 56 yurica_kimono.esp 87 57 NewMikanEyes.esp 88 58 MikanEyes All in one.esp 89 59 nightshade_armor.esp 90 5a HDT Capes.esp 91 5b CharacterMakingExtender.esp 92 5c Exhaustion.esp 93 5d Merta Assassin Armor.esp 94 5e rrhair.esp 95 5f AncientBladeWeapons.esp 96 60 Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp 97 61 KS Hairdo's.esp 98 62 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 99 63 SGEyebrows.esp 100 64 two_handed_rebalance.esp 101 65 Soldier Uniform Merged Pack.esp 102 66 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 103 67 Woodcutter's Wife.esp 104 68 PrivateNeeds.esp 105 69 Purewaters.esp 106 6a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 107 6b Weapons Merged Pack 2.esp 108 6c MJP_Schwarzenegger.esp 109 6d Nephilim.esp 110 6e Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 111 6f Beautiful Whiterun.esp 112 70 ArachnaphobiaExpansion.esp 113 71 kankaraya.esp 114 72 SamuraiBlades.esp 115 73 TimingIsEverything.esp 116 74 betterwinterhold.esp 117 75 ScopedBows ABT Merged Patch.esp 118 76 Armored Merged Pack.esp 119 77 Fashion Merged 3 Pack.esp 120 78 TearofAbyss.esp 121 79 Extended Encounters.esp 122 7a Angelic Merged Patch.esp 123 7b Accessories Merged Pack.esp 124 7c _YoungHuman.esp 125 7d [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp 126 7e WezFollower.esp 127 7f Brows.esp 128 80 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 129 81 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 130 82 TrueStorms.esp 131 83 AOS2 Merged Patch.esp 132 84 Sound Music Merged Patch.esp 133 85 Conditional Silence Music Merged Patch.esp 134 86 PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp 135 87 ADS.esp 136 88 zzEstrus.esp 137 89 Extreme amount of enchantments.esp 138 8a zxRhoAias.esp 139 8b zxWhirlWind.esp 140 8c ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp 141 8d BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp 142 8e MontyXAddPerkPoints.esp 143 8f SerialStrip.esp 144 90 SerialStripper.esp 145 91 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 146 92 Illustrious HDT Cloaks of Skyrim.esp 147 93 yurica_musketeer [HDT].esp 148 94 zxDarkFallingGrave.esp 149 95 CombatDramaOverhaul.esp 150 96 ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp 151 97 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 152 98 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 153 99 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 154 9a WondersofWeather.esp 155 9b Sneak Tools.esp 156 9c Solar's Portable Crafting.esp 157 9d DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 158 9e HDTHair_Luckystars_Standalone.esp 159 9f Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp 160 a0 UltimateCombat.esp 161 a1 dD - NoSpin RealisticRag LargeSplat.esp 162 a2 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp 163 a3 Immersive Sounds - Comped Merged Patch.esp 164 a4 FightingFatigue.esp 165 a5 azarhair.esp 166 a6 Males of Skyrim.esp 167 a7 FoxMerged.esp 168 a8 Survive The Night.esp 169 a9 Fashion Merged 1 Pack.esp 170 aa sworddance.esp 171 ab SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp 172 ac Osare Culort Outfit.esp 173 ad Poet.esp 174 ae Equipping Overhaul.esp 175 af ribeable-broom.esp 176 b0 Fashion Merged 2 Pack.esp 177 b1 Masyamune.esp 178 b2 zxSword Powers Merged Patch.esp 179 b3 flashstep.esp 180 b4 Heeled Merged Pack.esp 181 b5 zxPulleysButterfly.esp 182 b6 SimplyKnock.esp 183 b7 MikanCustomOddEyes.esp 184 b8 Armored Merged 2 Pack.esp 185 b9 Weather Merged Patch.esp 186 ba HeartBreaker.esp 187 bb enhanceddynamicweathersystem.esp 188 bc AH Hotkeys.esp 189 bd Accessories Merged Pack 2.esp 190 be Bloody Cannibalism.esp 191 bf EK_RingLimiter.esp 192 c0 SafeAutoSave.esp 193 c1 AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp 194 c2 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 195 c3 XPMSE.esp 196 c4 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 197 c5 Fashion Merged 4 Pack.esp 198 c6 Slow Time.esp 199 c7 Armored Merged 3 Pack.esp 200 c8 ElFollowerSeverini.esp 201 c9 QuickLight.esp 202 ca BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp 203 cb Devious Deviants.esp 204 cc PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 205 cd PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 206 ce Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 207 cf RND Merged Patch.esp 208 d0 ImmerSlave.esp 209 d1 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp 210 d2 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 211 d3 Bashed Patch, Skyrim.esp 212 d4 ASIS-Dependency.esp 213 d5 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 214 d6 ASIS.esp 215 d7 Combat Evolved - Core.esp 216 d8 []GCE NPCs Replacer.esp 217 d9 SBF NPC Merged.esp 218 da jh_skyrim npc.esp 219 db jh_housecarl+companion.esp 220 dc GCE NPCs Female + Alternate Valerica.esp 221 dd jh_Donyaakin.esp 222 de Dolls.esp
Uncle64 Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Your loadorder is one mess, do you have all patches done correct? Since you have SIC you should perhaps look for patches for that.
Trainee Posted October 7, 2016 Author Posted October 7, 2016 Funny enough. This was all sorted by LOOT. As for SiC, I believed there were no patches known for it unless its for Rebirth Monsters.
gingerstale Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 I had the same issue before. Though, with not much files. I would check the SKSE folder inside the save folder (My Games) then check the log files and see if there are some errors in the logs then disable those mods. If that does not help, you can disable the plugins one by one using Nexus Mod Manager (if you are using it). In your case disable 10 by 10 until your game no longer crashes. If that does not help disable the mods a few by few until you find the one causing this. That is what I personally did. Also, before you do what I said, try starting a new game saving then load the game. If that works for you then you probably have an issue with the same game file. Also, if you have a lot of animation mods that will cause the game to crash too. Skyrim has a limit on the number of animations it can load.
MataHari Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Apparently those amount of scripts are causing my Skyrim to crash. Was wondering what mods could be the culprit. As a side note, I also have a lot of spawn mods like OBIS or Immersive Patrols. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 7 7 Falskaar.esm 8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm 9 9 SGHairPackBase.esm 10 a Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 11 b fox_shop.esm 12 c ApachiiHair.esm 13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 14 e MFVM.esm 15 f RaceCompatibility.esm 16 10 TeenVoice.esm 17 11 SexLab.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 19 13 SexLabAroused.esm 20 14 PC Exclusive Voice Path.esm 21 15 Campfire.esm 22 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 23 17 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 24 18 JackGaPub.esm 25 19 daymoyl.esm 26 1a Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 27 1b brawlbug-plugin.esp 28 1c Player Size Adjuster.esp 29 1d SkyUI.esp 30 1e Customizable Camera.esp 31 1f SGHairPackAIO.esp 32 20 FISS.esp 33 21 AMatterOfTime.esp 34 22 UIExtensions.esp 35 23 Animations.esp 36 24 FNIS.esp 37 25 AddItemMenu.esp 38 26 When Vampires Attack.esp 39 27 performance tree.esp 40 28 RelightingSkyrim-Merged Patch.esp 41 29 performance rocks.esp 42 2a WetandCold.esp 43 2b Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 44 2c Point The Way.esp 45 2d RealisticWaterTwo.esp 46 2e AOS.esp 47 2f 3DNPC.esp 48 30 WhiterunHoldForest.esp 49 31 Random Merge Patch 1.esp 50 32 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 51 33 Rebirth Monster.esp 52 34 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 53 35 Random Spawn 1 Merged Pack.esp 54 36 Mystical Illumination - Glowing Signs with Point the Way.esp 55 37 Skyrim Performance Merged Patch.esp 56 38 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 57 39 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 58 3a Random Merge Patch 3.esp 59 3b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 60 3c Populated Skyrim Merged Patch.esp 61 3d Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 62 3e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 63 3f JiGuardDiversity.esp 64 40 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 65 41 High Level Enemies - SIC.esp 66 42 Rebith Monster - Merged Patch.esp 67 43 Replacer Merged Patch.esp 68 44 VioLens.esp 69 45 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 70 46 Luggage.esp 71 47 Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp 72 48 Run For Your Lives.esp 73 49 ThirdEraWars.esp 74 4a Weapons Merged Pack.esp 75 4b Frostfall.esp 76 4c Random Merge Patch 2.esp 77 4d LeafRest OnePiece.esp 78 4e SimpleSlavery.esp 79 4f ACE Merged Patch.esp 80 50 Cloaks.esp 81 51 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp 82 52 TKDodge.esp 83 53 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 84 54 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 85 55 RaceMenu.esp 86 56 yurica_kimono.esp 87 57 NewMikanEyes.esp 88 58 MikanEyes All in one.esp 89 59 nightshade_armor.esp 90 5a HDT Capes.esp 91 5b CharacterMakingExtender.esp 92 5c Exhaustion.esp 93 5d Merta Assassin Armor.esp 94 5e rrhair.esp 95 5f AncientBladeWeapons.esp 96 60 Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp 97 61 KS Hairdo's.esp 98 62 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 99 63 SGEyebrows.esp 100 64 two_handed_rebalance.esp 101 65 Soldier Uniform Merged Pack.esp 102 66 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 103 67 Woodcutter's Wife.esp 104 68 PrivateNeeds.esp 105 69 Purewaters.esp 106 6a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 107 6b Weapons Merged Pack 2.esp 108 6c MJP_Schwarzenegger.esp 109 6d Nephilim.esp 110 6e Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 111 6f Beautiful Whiterun.esp 112 70 ArachnaphobiaExpansion.esp 113 71 kankaraya.esp 114 72 SamuraiBlades.esp 115 73 TimingIsEverything.esp 116 74 betterwinterhold.esp 117 75 ScopedBows ABT Merged Patch.esp 118 76 Armored Merged Pack.esp 119 77 Fashion Merged 3 Pack.esp 120 78 TearofAbyss.esp 121 79 Extended Encounters.esp 122 7a Angelic Merged Patch.esp 123 7b Accessories Merged Pack.esp 124 7c _YoungHuman.esp 125 7d [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp 126 7e WezFollower.esp 127 7f Brows.esp 128 80 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 129 81 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 130 82 TrueStorms.esp 131 83 AOS2 Merged Patch.esp 132 84 Sound Music Merged Patch.esp 133 85 Conditional Silence Music Merged Patch.esp 134 86 PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp 135 87 ADS.esp 136 88 zzEstrus.esp 137 89 Extreme amount of enchantments.esp 138 8a zxRhoAias.esp 139 8b zxWhirlWind.esp 140 8c ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp 141 8d BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp 142 8e MontyXAddPerkPoints.esp 143 8f SerialStrip.esp 144 90 SerialStripper.esp 145 91 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 146 92 Illustrious HDT Cloaks of Skyrim.esp 147 93 yurica_musketeer [HDT].esp 148 94 zxDarkFallingGrave.esp 149 95 CombatDramaOverhaul.esp 150 96 ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp 151 97 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 152 98 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 153 99 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 154 9a WondersofWeather.esp 155 9b Sneak Tools.esp 156 9c Solar's Portable Crafting.esp 157 9d DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 158 9e HDTHair_Luckystars_Standalone.esp 159 9f Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp 160 a0 UltimateCombat.esp 161 a1 dD - NoSpin RealisticRag LargeSplat.esp 162 a2 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp 163 a3 Immersive Sounds - Comped Merged Patch.esp 164 a4 FightingFatigue.esp 165 a5 azarhair.esp 166 a6 Males of Skyrim.esp 167 a7 FoxMerged.esp 168 a8 Survive The Night.esp 169 a9 Fashion Merged 1 Pack.esp 170 aa sworddance.esp 171 ab SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp 172 ac Osare Culort Outfit.esp 173 ad Poet.esp 174 ae Equipping Overhaul.esp 175 af ribeable-broom.esp 176 b0 Fashion Merged 2 Pack.esp 177 b1 Masyamune.esp 178 b2 zxSword Powers Merged Patch.esp 179 b3 flashstep.esp 180 b4 Heeled Merged Pack.esp 181 b5 zxPulleysButterfly.esp 182 b6 SimplyKnock.esp 183 b7 MikanCustomOddEyes.esp 184 b8 Armored Merged 2 Pack.esp 185 b9 Weather Merged Patch.esp 186 ba HeartBreaker.esp 187 bb enhanceddynamicweathersystem.esp 188 bc AH Hotkeys.esp 189 bd Accessories Merged Pack 2.esp 190 be Bloody Cannibalism.esp 191 bf EK_RingLimiter.esp 192 c0 SafeAutoSave.esp 193 c1 AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp 194 c2 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 195 c3 XPMSE.esp 196 c4 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 197 c5 Fashion Merged 4 Pack.esp 198 c6 Slow Time.esp 199 c7 Armored Merged 3 Pack.esp 200 c8 ElFollowerSeverini.esp 201 c9 QuickLight.esp 202 ca BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp 203 cb Devious Deviants.esp 204 cc PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 205 cd PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 206 ce Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 207 cf RND Merged Patch.esp 208 d0 ImmerSlave.esp 209 d1 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp 210 d2 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 211 d3 Bashed Patch, Skyrim.esp 212 d4 ASIS-Dependency.esp 213 d5 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 214 d6 ASIS.esp 215 d7 Combat Evolved - Core.esp 216 d8 []GCE NPCs Replacer.esp 217 d9 SBF NPC Merged.esp 218 da jh_skyrim npc.esp 219 db jh_housecarl+companion.esp 220 dc GCE NPCs Female + Alternate Valerica.esp 221 dd jh_Donyaakin.esp 222 de Dolls.esp What you need to do is check the spawn points for those mention mods in TES5Edit, perhaps one or two spawn points somehow become dirty. Although, I am not sure if one can check that in TES5Edit or not. I know you can do that in TES4Edit for Oblivion mods.
Uncle64 Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Did you sort by using LOOT before or after you have checked whit Wrye Bash since you have Bashed Patch? Did you rerun Fnis after that? What is this? 49 31 Random Merge Patch 1.esp This one should be before any mod that uses it. 32 20 FISS.esp This one should be long way down in your loadorder. 106 6a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp You also have some mods that do similar things, did you install them in correct order so the right files is installed? And you should go to Nexus/LL and get latest Papyrus/Jcontainers and make sure that NOTHING overwrites those files. And dont use savecleaner for all issues, since your errors in your save do come from errors in your load order. Fix that and perhaps later you can clean it, but one big warning, the new and complex mods you have installed do stop you from using savecleaners since it is not safe anymore. Use this instead of you brawl bug patch. Your is outdated. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/77465/? This one SHOULD not be used when you have RaceMenu. 50 32 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Your Masters for Sexlab and other mods are at wrong places, since you have soft dependence for many mods that LOOT cant detect, but Wrye Bash should have told you that. And how have you installed your mods. I must say that you should be lucky to have the game running. And to the one that suggested to disable plugins. Learn to mod then you have no need to do that since it is one bad suggestion.
Trainee Posted October 7, 2016 Author Posted October 7, 2016 Did you sort by using LOOT before or after you have checked whit Wrye Bash since you have Bashed Patch? Did you rerun Fnis after that? What is this? 49 31 Random Merge Patch 1.esp This one should be before any mod that uses it. 32 20 FISS.esp This one should be long way down in your loadorder. 106 6a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp You also have some mods that do similar things, did you install them in correct order so the right files is installed? And you should go to Nexus/LL and get latest Papyrus/Jcontainers and make sure that NOTHING overwrites those files. And dont use savecleaner for all issues, since your errors in your save do come from errors in your load order. Fix that and perhaps later you can clean it, but one big warning, the new and complex mods you have installed do stop you from using savecleaners since it is not safe anymore. Use this instead of you brawl bug patch. Your is outdated. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/77465/? This one SHOULD not be used when you have RaceMenu. 50 32 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Your Masters for Sexlab and other mods are at wrong places, since you have soft dependence for many mods that LOOT cant detect, but Wrye Bash should have told you that. And how have you installed your mods. I must say that you should be lucky to have the game running. And to the one that suggested to disable plugins. Learn to mod then you have no need to do that since it is one bad suggestion. Wyre Bash Loot FNIS Answer: Loot first then Wyre Bash. Though incase, I use Loot again. Also I always use FNIS after. Random Merged Patch 1 (Not really a patch. Just names to keeps organised) [MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +Dawnguard Athletic Jump better-ench-fx bowspeedmod brat_richer_merchants_sp0 Dead Body Collision draugrEnglish Facelight Facelight Plus FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5 FrostyFrost iHud Invisibility Eyes Fix JaxonzDiagnostics Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 2x Brighter MainMenu MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch MIDFollowMeEvenCloser MoreBrains MPAB Path of Shadows posesivecorpses Qasmoke Reduced Distance NPC Greetings Shout-tastic_no CD Size Does Matter HF Skill Config SkyrimSpeeds SkyrimURWL UltrapowerFusRoDah vwr Wet Eyes EnhancedEdit and Racemenu Issue: To be honest. I kept Enhanced edit for the YGnord Race. Other than that Racemenu works like a charm for the past 2 years with it. Payprus/JC Util are up to date. I was thinking of installing the modern brawl patch. I guess I will do that now. I'll move the AmoursAdventure to the bottom and FISS somewhere in the top. Regarding mod installation in the correct order. To my knowledge, I believe I did install them in the correct order. To avoid complications of the multiple mod features running the same thing, I turned them off. Though its quite odd that this save game has gotten far worse than my previous one as it has less active scripts while this one just has more.
Uncle64 Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Run LOOT, fine tune your loadorder whit Wrye Bash. What tool did you use for install? Wrye/NMM/MO? If you have mods that edits the same scriptfile you will run in to script errors since the mods cant find the right version of the script file. It is one reason that you need to install Papyrus/Containers last, or in MO you put in high prio in the left window.
Trainee Posted October 7, 2016 Author Posted October 7, 2016 Guess I'll try that method of sorting the loadorder. I use NMM and Manual install. Those are the two methods I use for a longtime. I dont think I have any mods that I know of that edits the same script files. Unless they're all wrapped up in a BSA.
Uncle64 Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Then I strongly suggest you STOP manually install. Stick to NMM since it do the job it are supposed to do. And you can more easy know what the mod installs. And if one mod are lose files those files will win priority against those files inside BSA. Think like this, you install 2 mods, one have lose files and one have BSA, inside the BSA there are new "whatever.pex" and in the lose files mod there are the same "whatever.pex" but that is older and have serious errors in it. Then Skyrim will use the loose one since it get higher priority and it loads faster, that sounds good but, you will run the game and use the script that script file that have flaws. And in some time your game will have as you have many redundant scripts and errors in your save. NMM can detect if one scriptfile is older then the file you have in your data folder. There are several nice guides here and at Steam that address those issues. And they also deal whit the issue about in what order should I install my mods.
MataHari Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 And to the one that suggested to disable plugins. Learn to mod then you have no need to do that since it is one bad suggestion. If you didn't know, but disabling mods is called binary search and sometimes it's necessary to do even for the most experienced mod users. So, suggesting to someone to learn how to mod properly is a good advice. Sure it is, but believe me when I say. It is really a bad idea to say to someone to learn how to mod and if you do that you wouldn't have any issues, because nobody can to 100% guarantee that.
Uncle64 Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 The basic of turning of and on plugins should you use very rare, but at to use it for random testing without the important check if you have done all other things correct first is stupid to do. And as I have proved he have so many errors in his load order, I dont think he have found the issue whit random disable and enable. And I cant se what you did find for him.
MataHari Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Guess I'll try that method of sorting the loadorder. I use NMM and Manual install. Those are the two methods I use for a longtime. I dont think I have any mods that I know of that edits the same script files. Unless they're all wrapped up in a BSA. Then I strongly suggest you STOP manually install. Stick to NMM since it do the job it are supposed to do. And you can more easy know what the mod installs. And if one mod are lose files those files will win priority against those files inside BSA. One should never do a manual mod installation in Skyrim. I don't use NMM, so I cannot comment what NMM can do and not do. However, I've heard other people saying that NMM does work for some mods, but not with every mod. Wrye bash does work for all Skyrim mods, so I suggest that the OP to scrap everything and start over with a fresh Skyrim then install all mods in Wrye Bash without using MO, if you use MO that is.
Uncle64 Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 My self did go from NMM to MO, little hard to learn but since I already did know about priority so it was not that hard. Best thing I actually did. Wrye/LOOT/TsvEd is also essential tools. Yes OP should make his Skyrim clean and start again, trash his saves clean out his saves from Steam cloud to, since I bet all of them have script errors. And use atleast NMM/Wrye, the best he can do, is go for MO so his Skyrim actually do work. And stay away from to many overhaul mods. Almost all today do affect all stuff. And many of them uses Cloaks that also makes stress on the game. Many from this site uses Cloaks.
Trainee Posted October 13, 2016 Author Posted October 13, 2016 Well, the script counts seem to be increasing further. I rechecked the saves and the thing that I've noticed is the amount of "SuspendedStacks". Most of them in a form of "TweakPlayerMonitor". I believe these are the Active Scripts that the save cleaner was referring to. Problem is I can't remove them.
Trainee Posted October 27, 2016 Author Posted October 27, 2016 Is it possible to remove the "SuspendedStacks"? Started a new game and played for 2 hours and accumulated over 15,000 active scripts and 98% of it are SuspendedStacks.
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