CTD upon entering certain loactions

[Ryokentaru]

So after dealing with many mods and many fixes over the past few weeks, I've almost got my game 100% stable. I'll get an occasional CTD every several hours of play, but I was prepared for such a thing going into modding in the first place.
 
What DOES bug me is an issue I have with not-so-random CTD's that occur when trying to enter certain areas. Two that I know of for sure are Mistveil Keep in Riften and Understone Keep in Markarth. I've even gone so far as to disable (though not uninstall, admittedly) all mod plugins, leaving only the vanilla Skyrim, Update and DLC .esm files active, AND using the coc command from the main menu to attempt to load directly into these cells in order to rule out save file buggery.
 
Sadly, the result is the same, a guaranteed CTD. Papyrus doesn't seem to have anything definitive, but does seem to spout a boatload of errors regardless.

 

[09/05/2016 - 11:53:27PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:27PM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:27PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:27PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:35PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:36PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to alias Water on quest DLC2TTF2 (0401AAC8) because their base types do not match
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property NordRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property RedguardRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DarkElfRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1VampireChangeEffect on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property TrapDiseaseRockjoint on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property OrcRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property KhajiitRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property NordRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property TrapDiseaseWitbane on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property KhajiitRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property TrapDiseaseBoneBreakFever on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property HighElfRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ArgonianRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ImperialRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property WoodElfRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property TrapDiseaseAtaxia on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1VampireChange on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property BretonRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1CrimeFactions on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property BretonRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1VampireChangeFXEffect on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property OrcRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ArgonianRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ImperialRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property WoodElfRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DarkElfRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property TrapDiseasePorphyricHemophelia on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property HighElfRace on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property RedguardRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property TrapDiseaseRattles on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property TrapDiseaseBrainRot on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (04027115) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (04027114) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (04027117) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (04027116) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (04027112) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (04027113) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (04027111) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (04027110) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DarkSouls on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property WindWalker on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property MageArmor30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property MageArmor50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property MagicResistance50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property MagicResistance30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property Bladesman90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property Bladesman60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property Necromancy on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property AugmentedFrost on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property SavageStrike on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to  (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property NordRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property RedguardRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ImperialRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property OrcRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property KhajiitRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property WoodElfRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property BretonRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property RedguardRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DarkElfRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property HighElfRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property NordRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DarkElfRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ImperialRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property WoodElfRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property BretonRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property OrcRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ArgonianRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ArgonianRaceVampire on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property HighElfRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property KhajiitRace on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1WerewolfTotalPerksEarned on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1AnimalVigor on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1GorgingDurationSeconds on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property ActorTypeNPC on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1SavageFeedingPerk on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1WerewolfMaxPerks on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1GorgingPerk on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property Alias_LevitationTarget on script DLC2_QF_DLC2DialogueTelMithry_02017E85 attached to DLC2DialogueTelMithryn (04017E85) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to  (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to  (0402710F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC1VampireChangeEffect on script dlc1playervampirechangescript attached to DLC1PlayerVampireQuest (020071D0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessage on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DLC2RRTeldrynSero on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWedding on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWait on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanions on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property DismissedFollower on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/05/2016 - 11:53:50PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

 

 

 

 

I've even tried cleaning the main files with TES5Edit to no avail (unless I did it wrong? I followed the instructions on the wiki) so I'm turning here for help.

 

I have mods installed of course, and I can post the load order if needed, but as far as I know none of them really touch these particular cells or anything.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

[GregorSamsa]

Don't sound as a scripting problem to me, so papyrus won't help, sounds more like a corrupt nif or some loading error, when cell is loaded.

 

You can use crash fixes for debugging, depending on its ini-settings it writes down some crash issues.

 

If you have installed the hd-texture pack from bethesda, try also with removing it.

 

Other posibiities: wrong skse.ini settings, wrong enblocal.ini settings (if ENB in use) = memory patches aren't  applied correctly.

 

If you use FINIS, don't forget to run it also if you remove a related mod, as loading cells with outdated behavior files of the containing actor leads to crashes too.

 

Some weapon and amor mods spread out the items throughout skirim so bandits and other npcs will have the custom stuff applied. If they are corrupted or wrong in load order certain cells may crash upon loading too.

 

EDIT

 

Loot will tell you if you did the cleaning job right or if you have to 'reclean' the esps. Loot will also tell you which esps shouldn't be cleaned. 

[alphafr]

Can be 2 mod changing the same location creating a conflict

 

I remember having a city enhacing mod causing me to crash whenever I got close to Windhelm

 

Otherwise script leftovers, try some save cleaning

 

If not working you doene goof and I can't help any further

[Ryokentaru]

Don't sound as a scripting problem to me, so papyrus won't help, sounds more like a corrupt nif or some loading error, when cell is loaded.

 

You can use crash fixes for debugging, depending on its ini-settings it writes down some crash issues.

 

If you have installed the hd-texture pack from bethesda, try also with removing it.

 

Other posibiities: wrong skse.ini settings, wrong enblocal.ini settings (if ENB in use) = memory patches aren't  applied correctly.

 

If you use FINIS, don't forget to run it also if you remove a related mod, as loading cells with outdated behavior files of the containing actor leads to crashes too.

 

Some weapon and amor mods spread out the items throughout skirim so bandits and other npcs will have the custom stuff applied. If they are corrupted or wrong in load order certain cells may crash upon loading too.

 

EDIT

 

Loot will tell you if you did the cleaning job right or if you have to 'reclean' the esps. Loot will also tell you which esps shouldn't be cleaned. 

 

I stopped using the Bethesda HD Texture Packs long ago, as they were causing massive save corruption. I also don't currently have any ENB stuff installed (though it will be next on my list if I can sort this issue out )

 

I DO have custom skeletons installed, but could that be causing the crash even if the ESP is disabled? Actually I guess what I want to know if simply having any of this stuff installed, even if it's disabled, can cause this kind of issue? I don't have nearly as many mods as some people here, but it's still enough that I would like to try and avoid the trial and error method of uninstalling all of them before reinstalling the one by one, as that would take ages.

 

Also LOOT seems to think I cleaned the main files properly, there's no warning markers or anything.

[GregorSamsa]

 

I stopped using the Bethesda HD Texture Packs long ago, as they were causing massive save corruption. I also don't currently have any ENB stuff installed (though it will be next on my list if I can sort this issue out )

 

I DO have custom skeletons installed, but could that be causing the crash even if the ESP is disabled? Actually I guess what I want to know if simply having any of this stuff installed, even if it's disabled, can cause this kind of issue? I don't have nearly as many mods as some people here, but it's still enough that I would like to try and avoid the trial and error method of uninstalling all of them before reinstalling the one by one, as that would take ages.

 

Also LOOT seems to think I cleaned the main files properly, there's no warning markers or anything.

 

 

There's some confusion about what ENB does. If you have a suitable graphics cards you should install the basic ENB-series 'plugin' by Boris as it moves processes from cpu to gpu.  Mostly ENB is known for graphics enhancement - but this is the 'outcome' of what can be done with the ENB series.

 

Next step you should use the setting for ENB form Boris provided under the name ENBoost

 

Then in "skyrimprefs.ini" you should set:

 

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

 

 

 

In "enblocal.ini" you should set:

 

under [Global]

UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false

 

 

under [MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

 

 

Try this first - as it makes the whole thing much more stable.

 

 

 

 

If you mean by 'disable' disabled in mod organizer, they won't be loaded so they can't affect the game.

 

 

But an esp doesn't contain a skeleton. The skeleton is a nif file. The esp that comes with the skeleton would contain other things.

 

If you use mod organizer you should deactivate the whole folder (left window) not only the esp (smaller right window).

 

 

Again - if you use FINIs and disable the skeleton-stuff make shure you run FINIS after disabeling. As custom skeletons come with custom animations. And you have to update FINIS when  deactivating them.

 

 

Buit the skeleton is a very basic thing - you would even have to disable everything related on it ( bodies, clothes etc.) otherwise game will crash for shure, as the skeleton is a very basic dependency.

If you search for error files always go from 'outside to inside', don't start with the core files, the framework stuff and so on, but start with the 'on top files' - the files that have dependencies which have dependencies. Hope I explain that well - don't start searching from the core to the enviroment but instead from the environment to the core.