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So, after installing RDO (And its patches) LOOT hasn't really been helping me out much in terms of load order, since it seems to disagree with its author. So, I just want to know if my Load Order is right in other people's eyes. 

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.3]
06  ApachiiHair.esm
07  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
08  ApachiiHairMales.esm
09  AzarHair.esm
0A  hdtHighHeel.esm
0B  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
0C  RaceCompatibility.esm
0D  Heels Sound.esm
0E  KameleonArmor.esm
0F  SGHairPackBase.esm
10  EFFCore.esm
11  OSA.esm
12  HighResTexturePack01.esp
13  HighResTexturePack02.esp
14  HighResTexturePack03.esp
15  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
16  FollowerCompatibility.esp
17  chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
18  BijinAIO-2016_3.1.esp
19  Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
1A  EFFDialogue.esp
1B  RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
1C  SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
1D  Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
1E  SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
1F  SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp
20  No_stretching.esp
21  SGEyebrows.esp
22  KS Hairdo's.esp
23  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
24  TrueEyes.esp
25  towConversation.esp
26  ELFX - Hardcore.esp
27  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
28  Real Roads.esp
29  ELFX - Weathers.esp
2A  CinematicFireFX.esp
2B  FNIS.esp
2C  SkyUI.esp
2D  RaceMenu.esp
2E  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
2F  Dragonbone Marauder armor.esp
30  Accessorize.esp
31  AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
32  Differently Ebony.esp
33  Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp
34  HDT Havok Object.esp
35  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
36  Cloaks.esp
37  EmpyreanCS.esp
38  Beards.esp
39  DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp
3A  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
3B  Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
3C  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
3D  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
3E  Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
3F  Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
40  Ursine Armor Pack.esp
41  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
42  Brows.esp
43  Eyes of Aber.esp
44  GPPoses.esp
45  Lieyes_v1.0.esp
46  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
47  EmpyreanWarpaints.esp
48  Neithteam Warpaint.esp
49  Immersive Weapons.esp
4A  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
4B  SFO - Dragonborn.esp
4C  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
4D  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
4E  Morning Fogs.esp  [Version 1.0]
4F  SOS - Shop.esp
50  FalmerBikini.esp
51  Immersive Music Temples.esp
52  TemptressVixen.esp
53  Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp
54  Immersive Music Replacer.esp
55  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
56  KameleonArmor.esp
57  LeijonaFollower.esp
58  Fjora.esp
59  Review Studio.esp
5A  SteelPlateBikini.esp
5B  DragonBoneBikini.esp
5C  DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp
5D  BandedIronBikini.esp
5E  Dwarvenbikini.esp
5F  Extended Slider Colors.esp
60  _sunya.esp
61  Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp
62  RosaFollower.esp
63  Wolfbikini.esp
64  SteelBikini.esp
65  Shiamar.esp
66  BladesBikini.esp
67  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
68  TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
69  TheCoenaculiMALE.esp
6A  AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
6B  CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
6C  Notverigud Nordic Carved Bikini.esp
6D  0K_ManActScript.esp
6E  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
6F  Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
70  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
71  dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
72  dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
73  R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp
74  Daedric Extra Armor.esp
75  Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
76  PeroPeroArmorPack.esp
77  RobesReplacerStandalone.esp
78  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
79  SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Equipable.esp
7A  SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Addon.esp
7B  SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp
7C  SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp
7D  Emfy Cleric Robes.esp
7E  Dragon Knight Exposed.esp
7F  Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
80  Merta Assassin Armor.esp
81  ScarletDawnArmor.esp
82  Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
83  TrissArmorRetextured.esp
84  HDTTailsEquipable.esp
85  Animated Dragon Wings.esp
86  FourBoobs.esp
87  TDNEquipableHorns.esp
88  Hooves.esp
89  Ariente Follower.esp
8A  Facelight.esp
8B  CitrusHead - Standalone.esp
8C  XPMSE.esp
8D  SOSRaceMenu.esp
8E  FNIS_PCEA2.esp
8F  Anal Torch.esp
90  RailLight.esp
91  Lex.esp
92  RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
93  LunariRace.esp
94  Toccata.esp
95  BTRH_Izo.esp
96  BTRH_Tomoe.esp
97  VioLens.esp  [Version 2.11]
98  CombatDramaOverhaul.esp
99  Males of Skyrim.esp
9A  RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
9B  12FemaleBrows.esp
9C  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
9D  Dementia Outfit.esp
9E  R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp
9F  Eisen Armor.esp
A0  Ayumi Set.esp
A1  BDLeatherRobe.esp
A2  RevampedDSArmor7B.esp
A3  Dragonbone Marauder armor Addon.esp
A4  GDZZJJDH.esp
A5  Dalight.esp
A6  LightBladesArmor.esp
A7  BnS.esp
A8  Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp
A9  CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
AA  K2 HDT Boots.esp
AB  zzArmormashups.esp
AC  TGLNordArmor.esp
AD  DarkStandalone.esp
AE  Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp
AF  FreckleMania.esp
B0  Northgirl.esp
B1  The Unclaimed Delivery.esp
B2  ViceroyInquisitor.esp
B3  ERF - Succubus.esp
B4  ValkyrieArmor.esp
B5  RB0102.esp
B6  FullMetalBikini.esp
B7  lrq_af0001.esp
B8  Mamoth Lord.esp
B9  rosarmor.esp
BA  RagingMoon.esp
BB  HENTAI PANTS.esp
BC  Chaurus Queen.esp
BD  HentaisJamellaArmor.esp
BE  Gatti13AshesOn.esp
BF  Lich King's Armor.esp
C0  AlynShirArmor.esp
C1  HotpantsBikini.esp
C2  ADEC Stormcloak.esp
C3  TsuntsunArmor7B.esp
C4  Leolic.esp
C5  Sexy Robes and Hats.esp
C6  Armor Depravity Chsbhc V3 T.esp
C7  Shura Armor.esp
C8  DragonPlateBrazen.esp
C9  Guild Duelist Armor.esp
CA  SGHairPackAIO.esp
CB  UIExtensions.esp
CC  AddItemMenu.esp
CD  PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp
CE  DanarielStormbow.esp
CF  SolingFollower.esp
D0  Nila.esp
D1  MeeraFollower.esp
D2  Krastia.esp
D3  NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
D4  Locational Damage.esp
D5  TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
D6  MiniBikini.esp
D7  wjunlady.esp
D8  MQHArmorStAl.esp
D9  LeiFangAndChristieByNausicaa.esp
DA  VesWhoreOutfit.esp
DB  XXR&WZhuliyaHH.esp
DC  R&WZhuliya.esp
DD  BBD Skimpy Assassin Outfit.esp
DE  Goma Package.esp
DF  CharmingHighHeels.esp
E0  Dark Illusion Armor.esp
E1  Minou Devilmaid CBBE TBBP.esp
E2  DCSorceress.esp
E3  BnS_HongMoonGarb.esp
E4  SkinTight.esp
E5  Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
E6  EdhildilsHelgenrogue.esp
E7  YuiH's Screenshot Models - Freyane.esp
E8  Dragon Lilly.esp
E9  Ylfa_follower.esp
EA  Solveig v1.2.esp
EB  Bee_V.esp
EC  Bonney.esp
ED  Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
EE  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
EF  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
F0  BrynhildrFollower.esp
F1  The Ningheim.esp
F2  ArurunFollower.esp
F3  RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
F4  EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
F5  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.1.3]
F6  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F7  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 
Thanks in advance, and all suggestions are welcome!
Posted

 

So, after installing RDO (And its patches) LOOT hasn't really been helping me out much in terms of load order, since it seems to disagree with its author. So, I just want to know if my Load Order is right in other people's eyes. 

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.3]
06  ApachiiHair.esm
07  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
08  ApachiiHairMales.esm
09  AzarHair.esm
0A  hdtHighHeel.esm
0B  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
0C  RaceCompatibility.esm
0D  Heels Sound.esm
0E  KameleonArmor.esm
0F  SGHairPackBase.esm
10  EFFCore.esm
11  OSA.esm
12  HighResTexturePack01.esp
13  HighResTexturePack02.esp
14  HighResTexturePack03.esp
15  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
16  FollowerCompatibility.esp
17  chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
18  BijinAIO-2016_3.1.esp
19  Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
1A  EFFDialogue.esp
1B  RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
1C  SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
1D  Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
1E  SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
1F  SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp
20  No_stretching.esp
21  SGEyebrows.esp
22  KS Hairdo's.esp
23  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
24  TrueEyes.esp
25  towConversation.esp
26  ELFX - Hardcore.esp
27  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
28  Real Roads.esp
29  ELFX - Weathers.esp
2A  CinematicFireFX.esp
2B  FNIS.esp
2C  SkyUI.esp
2D  RaceMenu.esp
2E  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
2F  Dragonbone Marauder armor.esp
30  Accessorize.esp
31  AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
32  Differently Ebony.esp
33  Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp
34  HDT Havok Object.esp
35  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
36  Cloaks.esp
37  EmpyreanCS.esp
38  Beards.esp
39  DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp
3A  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
3B  Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
3C  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
3D  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
3E  Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
3F  Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
40  Ursine Armor Pack.esp
41  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
42  Brows.esp
43  Eyes of Aber.esp
44  GPPoses.esp
45  Lieyes_v1.0.esp
46  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
47  EmpyreanWarpaints.esp
48  Neithteam Warpaint.esp
49  Immersive Weapons.esp
4A  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
4B  SFO - Dragonborn.esp
4C  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
4D  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
4E  Morning Fogs.esp  [Version 1.0]
4F  SOS - Shop.esp
50  FalmerBikini.esp
51  Immersive Music Temples.esp
52  TemptressVixen.esp
53  Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp
54  Immersive Music Replacer.esp
55  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
56  KameleonArmor.esp
57  LeijonaFollower.esp
58  Fjora.esp
59  Review Studio.esp
5A  SteelPlateBikini.esp
5B  DragonBoneBikini.esp
5C  DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp
5D  BandedIronBikini.esp
5E  Dwarvenbikini.esp
5F  Extended Slider Colors.esp
60  _sunya.esp
61  Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp
62  RosaFollower.esp
63  Wolfbikini.esp
64  SteelBikini.esp
65  Shiamar.esp
66  BladesBikini.esp
67  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
68  TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
69  TheCoenaculiMALE.esp
6A  AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
6B  CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
6C  Notverigud Nordic Carved Bikini.esp
6D  0K_ManActScript.esp
6E  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
6F  Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
70  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
71  dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
72  dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
73  R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp
74  Daedric Extra Armor.esp
75  Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
76  PeroPeroArmorPack.esp
77  RobesReplacerStandalone.esp
78  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
79  SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Equipable.esp
7A  SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Addon.esp
7B  SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp
7C  SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp
7D  Emfy Cleric Robes.esp
7E  Dragon Knight Exposed.esp
7F  Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
80  Merta Assassin Armor.esp
81  ScarletDawnArmor.esp
82  Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
83  TrissArmorRetextured.esp
84  HDTTailsEquipable.esp
85  Animated Dragon Wings.esp
86  FourBoobs.esp
87  TDNEquipableHorns.esp
88  Hooves.esp
89  Ariente Follower.esp
8A  Facelight.esp
8B  CitrusHead - Standalone.esp
8C  XPMSE.esp
8D  SOSRaceMenu.esp
8E  FNIS_PCEA2.esp
8F  Anal Torch.esp
90  RailLight.esp
91  Lex.esp
92  RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
93  LunariRace.esp
94  Toccata.esp
95  BTRH_Izo.esp
96  BTRH_Tomoe.esp
97  VioLens.esp  [Version 2.11]
98  CombatDramaOverhaul.esp
99  Males of Skyrim.esp
9A  RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
9B  12FemaleBrows.esp
9C  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
9D  Dementia Outfit.esp
9E  R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp
9F  Eisen Armor.esp
A0  Ayumi Set.esp
A1  BDLeatherRobe.esp
A2  RevampedDSArmor7B.esp
A3  Dragonbone Marauder armor Addon.esp
A4  GDZZJJDH.esp
A5  Dalight.esp
A6  LightBladesArmor.esp
A7  BnS.esp
A8  Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp
A9  CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
AA  K2 HDT Boots.esp
AB  zzArmormashups.esp
AC  TGLNordArmor.esp
AD  DarkStandalone.esp
AE  Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp
AF  FreckleMania.esp
B0  Northgirl.esp
B1  The Unclaimed Delivery.esp
B2  ViceroyInquisitor.esp
B3  ERF - Succubus.esp
B4  ValkyrieArmor.esp
B5  RB0102.esp
B6  FullMetalBikini.esp
B7  lrq_af0001.esp
B8  Mamoth Lord.esp
B9  rosarmor.esp
BA  RagingMoon.esp
BB  HENTAI PANTS.esp
BC  Chaurus Queen.esp
BD  HentaisJamellaArmor.esp
BE  Gatti13AshesOn.esp
BF  Lich King's Armor.esp
C0  AlynShirArmor.esp
C1  HotpantsBikini.esp
C2  ADEC Stormcloak.esp
C3  TsuntsunArmor7B.esp
C4  Leolic.esp
C5  Sexy Robes and Hats.esp
C6  Armor Depravity Chsbhc V3 T.esp
C7  Shura Armor.esp
C8  DragonPlateBrazen.esp
C9  Guild Duelist Armor.esp
CA  SGHairPackAIO.esp
CB  UIExtensions.esp
CC  AddItemMenu.esp
CD  PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp
CE  DanarielStormbow.esp
CF  SolingFollower.esp
D0  Nila.esp
D1  MeeraFollower.esp
D2  Krastia.esp
D3  NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
D4  Locational Damage.esp
D5  TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
D6  MiniBikini.esp
D7  wjunlady.esp
D8  MQHArmorStAl.esp
D9  LeiFangAndChristieByNausicaa.esp
DA  VesWhoreOutfit.esp
DB  XXR&WZhuliyaHH.esp
DC  R&WZhuliya.esp
DD  BBD Skimpy Assassin Outfit.esp
DE  Goma Package.esp
DF  CharmingHighHeels.esp
E0  Dark Illusion Armor.esp
E1  Minou Devilmaid CBBE TBBP.esp
E2  DCSorceress.esp
E3  BnS_HongMoonGarb.esp
E4  SkinTight.esp
E5  Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
E6  EdhildilsHelgenrogue.esp
E7  YuiH's Screenshot Models - Freyane.esp
E8  Dragon Lilly.esp
E9  Ylfa_follower.esp
EA  Solveig v1.2.esp
EB  Bee_V.esp
EC  Bonney.esp
ED  Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
EE  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
EF  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
F0  BrynhildrFollower.esp
F1  The Ningheim.esp
F2  ArurunFollower.esp
F3  RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
F4  EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
F5  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.1.3]
F6  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F7  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 
Thanks in advance, and all suggestions are welcome!

 

 

Strange, LOOT places RDO and its patches in the correct order for me.

 

Thing is, LOOT is NOT a fire and forget solution to load order, if it places things in the wrong order for you just use the "Edit Metadata" function to tell LOOT to load RDO after any mods it's supposed to load after.

 

 

Posted

Aye, I kinda got that feeling. Supposedly the author already edited the metadata for RDO and its patches to be sorted properly. Maybe its just something on my end, because it seems like I'm the only one with this problem. Strange indeed. Where would you say I should put RDO? I feel like it should be after all the follower mods, but it has to be before EFFDialogue, and for some reason, placing EFFDialogue after follower mods causes them to act weird. (Not responding to dismissing and other commands, etc.)

Posted

Aye, I kinda got that feeling. Supposedly the author already edited the metadata for RDO and its patches to be sorted properly. Maybe its just something on my end, because it seems like I'm the only one with this problem. Strange indeed. Where would you say I should put RDO? I feel like it should be after all the follower mods, but it has to be before EFFDialogue, and for some reason, placing EFFDialogue after follower mods causes them to act weird. (Not responding to dismissing and other commands, etc.)

 

The only follower that is specifically mentioned regarding the load order is Mirai so as I didn't notice that one in your list I presume it shouldn't matter about the load order and other followers.

 

EDIT:

 

Why do you have EFFDialogue installed? you only need that if you have both EFF and Follower Live Package installed.

 

Posted

Oh! Uhm. Odd. I didn't realize that was what that was for. It came with the main EFF install. Or at least I think it did. Hm. So, I should just get rid of it?

 

You only need it if you have FLP, so yes, you can get rid of it.

 

It's an optional file on the FLP download page for users who want to use the more complex features of FLP but prefer the dialogue that EFF uses when talking to followers.

 

Posted

No. You need EFFDialogue.esp for EFF to work correctly. Do not remove it.

 

Also, the load order for RDO and EFF looks correct. I didn't look over the rest of your mods, but EFF and RDO looks correct.

 

I'd also recommend learning how to use TES5Edit (xEdit) instead of LOOT. If you're serious about learning how to mod Skyrim, xEdit is far more powerful (and just better) than LOOT.

I do not use LOOT at all, as I do all my conflict managing/resolution in xEdit.

Posted

That's really strange... I checked the contents of the EFF zip and apparently the EFFDialogue was packed with it. Huh. Thanks for letting me know.

 

My apologies, I was wrong, the 2 files have very similar names but EFFDialogue.esp is in the EFF download, EFFDialogueDLC.esp is the optional file from FLP.

 

So, don't delete the EFFDialogue.esp, just make sure the RDO - EFF v4.0.2 patch (assuming you use the latest version of EFF) loads after it.

 

Sorry for the confusion

:blush:

 

 

EDIT:

 

The man himself from RDO ninja'd my reply, even more blushes over my error :blush:

 

 

Posted

It's the thought that counts! Thanks a ton for the help you two, appreciate it. I'm gonna look into xEdit. I've used TES5Edit in the past, but only to clean masters. Suffice to say I'm not well versed. Guess I oughtta hit the books now.

Posted

TES5Edit is great, I use it a lot, not only can you easily find which mods conflict, it shows which mod wins the conflict, which helps you know if you need to swap load order around or not.

 

Also, you can use it to make changes to a lot of vanilla npcs and the ones added by mods that most people would think can only be done with the Creation Kit, you can't edit  vanilla npcs in the Skyrim.esm, you still need the CK to do that, but you can edit them if any update, patch, DLC or mod edits them by editing the update/patch/DLC.

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