Zeorik Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Falskaar.esm 06 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.3] 07 ApachiiHair.esm 08 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 09 BDHoodieSchlong.esp 0A Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0B SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 0C Campfire.esm 0D moonpath.esm 0E SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] 0F Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] 10 SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.6] 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 daymoyl.esm 14 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 17 HighResTexturePack01.esp 18 HighResTexturePack02.esp 19 HighResTexturePack03.esp 1A Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.2.0] 1B Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 2.0.2] 1C AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00] 1D SkyUI.esp 1E BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp 1F ImmersiveFP.esp 20 SMDropLitTorch.esp 21 FNIS.esp 22 Animated Dragon Wings.esp 23 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp 24 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 25 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 26 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 27 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 28 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 29 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp 2A Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 2B Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 2C Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp 2D Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 2E Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 2F Reptilian Feet.esp 30 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 31 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] 32 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp 33 SD Cages.esp [Version 2.70] 34 SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.13] 35 OBIS.esp 36 FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp 37 SoS - Civilization.esp [Version 1.02] 38 w2salem.esp 39 Dr_Bandolier.esp 3A SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp 3B SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp 3C Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 3D Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 3E SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp [Version 3.0] 3F CraftableClothes.esp 40 NARC.esp 41 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 42 DeadlyDragons.esp 43 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 44 ELE_Fs_Lite.esp 45 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 46 One With Nature - DG+DB SkyTEST.esp 47 EstrusChaurus.esp 48 zzEstrus.esp 49 12FemaleBrows.esp 4A sr_FillHerUp.esp 4B Footprints.esp 4C Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 4D Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp 4E mintylightningmod.esp 4F Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp 50 TrueStorms.esp 51 MoreSnowWindyand150percentLessView.esp 52 MoreNastyCritters.esp 53 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 54 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 55 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 56 OBISDB.esp 57 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 58 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 59 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp 5A Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] 5B BDIC.esp 5C BDIC SkyTEST Patch.esp 5D PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 5E RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 5F BloodmoonRising.esp 60 SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.23] 61 Captured Dreams.esp 62 HentaiCreatures.esp 63 Immersive Weapons.esp 64 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 65 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 66 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp 67 The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp 68 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 69 CBColourCustomArgon.esp 6A Frostfall.esp 6B SMIM-Merged-All.esp 6C moonpath_questdata.esp 6D Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 6E Val Lyrea.esp 6F sr_FillThemUp.esp 70 arnima.esp 71 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp 72 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 73 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 74 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 75 ForgottenCity.esp 76 Bandit Patrols.esp 77 sextoys-calyps-2.esp 78 CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp 79 CCO_SIC_Patch.esp 7A Dead Body Collision.esp 7B Devious Deviants.esp 7C PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 7D Duel - Combat Realism.esp 7E dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 7F ELFX - Moonpath.esp 80 Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp 81 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 82 SOS - Shop.esp 83 Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp 84 RabbitHole.esp 85 Skytest USLEEP.esp 86 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.9] 87 DarkwaterDen.esp 88 Immersive Music Temples.esp 89 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp 8A Immersive Music.esp 8B summersetisles.esp 8C ArrowInTheEverywhere_Insane.esp 8D P1FlyingRing.esp 8E FunctionalBags.esp 8F SFO - Dragonborn.esp 90 Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp 91 MaddBag.esp 92 CleanArrowPlayer.esp 93 OBISCCOR&IA8.esp 94 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp 95 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp 96 imp_helm_legend.esp 97 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8] 98 Predator Vision.esp 99 Purewaters.esp 9A RaceMenu.esp 9B RaceMenuPlugin.esp 9C Real Feeding V3.esp 9D dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 9E RND_AnimalLoot.esp 9F RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp A0 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp A1 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp A2 SDpatch - frostfall.esp A3 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp A4 Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp A5 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp A6 SexLabDefeat.esp A7 SLALAnimObj.esp A8 SLAnimLoader.esp A9 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp AA SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp AB SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp AC Soul Gems Differ.esp AD TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp AE Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp AF TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp B0 UIExtensions.esp B1 Unique Uniques WAFR Patch.esp [Version 1.3] B2 VioLens.esp [Version 2.11] B3 SOSRaceMenu.esp B4 XPMSE.esp B5 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp B6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.4] B7 TES5Merged.esp B8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp B9 ASIS-Dependency.esp BA ASIS.esp BB PatchusMaximus.esp BC Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp These are my 'active' mods I currently use. I keep having trouble with Death alternative, Defeat, and similar mods (Death Alternative is lacking it's 'fade to black' effect when knocked out, or enters permanent bleedout) Also, I have an uncommon tendency to simply crash altogether, though I'm not at all sure why. Pretty sure it has to do with Lovers Lab mods, so any help would be appreciated.
Gameplayer Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Active Mod Files: 05 Falskaar.esm 06 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.3] 0A Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0B SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 0C Campfire.esm 0D moonpath.esm 0E SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] 0F Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] 10 SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.6] 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 daymoyl.esm <-----Remove, Just use Defeat by itself. 14 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 17 HighResTexturePack01.esp 18 HighResTexturePack02.esp 19 HighResTexturePack03.esp 1A Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.2.0] 1B Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 2.0.2] 1C AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00] 1D SkyUI.esp 1E BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp 1F ImmersiveFP.esp 20 SMDropLitTorch.esp 21 FNIS.esp 22 Animated Dragon Wings.esp <Remove 2A Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 2B Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 2C Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp 2D Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 2E Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 2F Reptilian Feet.esp 30 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 31 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] 32 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp 33 SD Cages.esp [Version 2.70] 34 SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.13] 35 OBIS.esp 36 FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp 37 SoS - Civilization.esp [Version 1.02] 38 w2salem.esp 39 Dr_Bandolier.esp 3A SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp 3B SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp 3C Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 3D Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 3E SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp [Version 3.0] 3F CraftableClothes.esp 40 NARC.esp 41 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 42 DeadlyDragons.esp 43 Dual Sheath Redux.esp <----Remove 45 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 46 One With Nature - DG+DB SkyTEST.esp 47 EstrusChaurus.esp <--Remove 48 zzEstrus.esp <--Remove 4A sr_FillHerUp.esp <---Use Hentia Pregnancy or Soul Gem Oven instead! 4B Footprints.esp <---Pst Remove 4D Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp <---Really I don't have problem with eyes??? 4E mintylightningmod.esp <--Remove 4F Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp <---Remove, I say not worth it, seriously will lag your game more than you think and also when it works well there goes challenge. 50 TrueStorms.esp <---Not Worth having with COT in honestly 51 MoreSnowWindyand150percentLessView.esp <--Remove 52 MoreNastyCritters.esp 53 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 54 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 55 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 56 OBISDB.esp 57 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 58 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 59 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp 5A Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] 5B BDIC.esp 5C BDIC SkyTEST Patch.esp 5D PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 5E RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp <-----REMOVE, lagging out more than likely 5F BloodmoonRising.esp <---Remove 60 SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.23] 61 Captured Dreams.esp <---Not compatible with your Fortress Mod 62 HentaiCreatures.esp 63 Immersive Weapons.esp 64 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 65 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 66 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp 67 The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp 68 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 69 CBColourCustomArgon.esp 6A Frostfall.esp <---Not surprised your game is crashing you just cant say when with scripted mods can you 6B SMIM-Merged-All.esp 6C moonpath_questdata.esp 6D Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 6E Val Lyrea.esp 6F sr_FillThemUp.esp 70 arnima.esp 71 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp] 72 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 73 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 74 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 75 ForgottenCity.esp 76 Bandit Patrols.esp 77 sextoys-calyps-2.esp 78 CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp 79 CCO_SIC_Patch.esp 7A Dead Body Collision.esp <---Not a good idea with a mod like DEFEAT you could get timed out b4 being raped 7B Devious Deviants.esp 7C PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 7D Duel - Combat Realism.esp <Here we go another script mod but this time in combat. 7E dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 7F ELFX - Moonpath.esp 80 Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp 81 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 82 SOS - Shop.esp 83 Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp 84 RabbitHole.esp 85 Skytest USLEEP.esp 86 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.9] 87 DarkwaterDen.esp 88 Immersive Music Temples.esp 89 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp 8A Immersive Music.esp 8B summersetisles.esp 8C ArrowInTheEverywhere_Insane.esp 8D P1FlyingRing.esp 8E FunctionalBags.esp 8F SFO - Dragonborn.esp 90 Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp 91 MaddBag.esp 92 CleanArrowPlayer.esp 93 OBISCCOR&IA8.esp 94 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp 95 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp 96 imp_helm_legend.esp 97 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8] 98 Predator Vision.esp < Not surprised you need this, it would be hard too see at all at night in your game. 99 Purewaters.esp <---Why bother not like you can see the water at night or most daytimes anyway not with your LO 9A RaceMenu.esp 9B RaceMenuPlugin.esp 9C Real Feeding V3.esp 9D dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 9E RND_AnimalLoot.esp 9F RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp A0 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp A1 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp, More RND patches jeesh why bother with it, your games way over the top with script mods. A2 SDpatch - frostfall.esp A3 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp A4 Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp A5 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp A6 SexLabDefeat.esp A7 SLALAnimObj.esp A8 SLAnimLoader.esp A9 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp AA SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp AB SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp AC Soul Gems Differ.esp AD TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp AE Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp AF TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp B0 UIExtensions.esp B1 Unique Uniques WAFR Patch.esp [Version 1.3] B2 VioLens.esp [Version 2.11] B3 SOSRaceMenu.esp B4 XPMSE.esp <---Deactivate this Pluggin or even delete the pluggin but not the mod itself. B5 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp B6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.4] B7 TES5Merged.esp B8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp B9 ASIS-Dependency.esp BA ASIS.esp BB PatchusMaximus.esp BC Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp <Remove I'm not surprised. This game is an XBOX 360 port. You really just went too far with your choices, gotta cut back and deep too. You didn't mention if you had ENB Boost, Crash Fixes mod, or SKSE memory tweak installed. Honestly though its not like those would help, this game set-up is crash prone even if I pull out half the scripted mods in the line up. Your going to have to make a decision about what kind of game you actually want to play for this play through and stick too it. You cant have them all at once. Sorry it just isn't going to work out well. __________________________________________ So I see SMIM, Going to assume that you didn't post that you have installed a texture pack in the range of 2K or 4K enhanced textures or some such. Your games ability to handle script load is also tied to the FPS. If your pushing around 58FPS under full load well chances are your not going to crash due to stack dump. Then again you never mentioned if you used any modification to handle Skyrim's memory errors.
Gameplayer Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Now I'm not saying that it isn't possible to have a challenging game with Sexlab Mods, Thing is its like you don't understand that you brought the most script intense mods from Nexus over here and started saying that its our mods fault your having issues. Jeesh.
Zeorik Posted August 26, 2016 Author Posted August 26, 2016 I'm not surprised. This game is an XBOX 360 port. You really just went too far with your choices, gotta cut back and deep too. You didn't mention if you had ENB Boost, Crash Fixes mod, or SKSE memory tweak installed. Honestly though its not like those would help, this game set-up is crash prone even if I pull out half the scripted mods in the line up. Your going to have to make a decision about what kind of game you actually want to play for this play through and stick too it. You cant have them all at once. Sorry it just isn't going to work out well. __________________________________________ So I see SMIM, Going to assume that you didn't post that you have installed a texture pack in the range of 2K or 4K enhanced textures or some such. Your games ability to handle script load is also tied to the FPS. If your pushing around 58FPS under full load well chances are your not going to crash due to stack dump. Then again you never mentioned if you used any modification to handle Skyrim's memory errors. I was unsure what exactly was tied to what, as I'm only going off assumptions from my efforts to troubleshoot. Yes, I'm using 2-4k textures, and as far as crash fixes... I'm using ENBoost, and the SKSE Memory patch. Apart from that, I'm not exactly sure what else there is to do. Apart from some unusual instances, my FPS is around 30-50. Crashes tend to be sudden and often unexplained, immediate CTDs with no warning. (Certain areas sometimes cause it multiple times, but going elsewhere and coming back always seems to fix it. So having an actual solid point of reference is difficult) One thing I've noticed though, is that I 'think' the Death Alternative issue is tied to an ENB... though why an ENB would remove the effect is beyond me. Any other information/ suggestions? Sorry, I'm just a tad clueless on which mods are worse/ better, or overall are likeliest to fail. Worst case is that I dump half the LoversLab mods (Maybe the mods enhancing Werewolf characters too... not sure if I'll even play as one.)
Zeorik Posted August 26, 2016 Author Posted August 26, 2016 Now I'm not saying that it isn't possible to have a challenging game with Sexlab Mods, Thing is its like you don't understand that you brought the most script intense mods from Nexus over here and started saying that its our mods fault your having issues. Jeesh. I'm only basing this on the fact that my game has few to no issues that I've noticed without the mods, and the crashes that I CAN see are usually tied to an animation/ event occurring through something like Cursed Loot/ one of the other mods. I actually think I also did try to remove all mods except the sexlab ones, and still had issues.... though that was maybe a month ago, as I gave up on Skyrim for a bit a while back. So, let me ask this then: In your expert opinion, I'd prefer to keep MNC/ aroused creatures, and if at all possible Cursed Loot. What would you suggest removing to counter the balance, both Lovers Lab - oriented and Nexus related. As I said, I'm a bit of a novice at modding... though I can safely say I have tried most everything that I can to make things work. This post was never solely aimed at Lovers Lab mods, only the CTDs that I 'have' had with events related to the mods.
Gameplayer Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 I'm not surprised. This game is an XBOX 360 port. You really just went too far with your choices, gotta cut back and deep too. You didn't mention if you had ENB Boost, Crash Fixes mod, or SKSE memory tweak installed. Honestly though its not like those would help, this game set-up is crash prone even if I pull out half the scripted mods in the line up. Your going to have to make a decision about what kind of game you actually want to play for this play through and stick too it. You cant have them all at once. Sorry it just isn't going to work out well. __________________________________________ So I see SMIM, Going to assume that you didn't post that you have installed a texture pack in the range of 2K or 4K enhanced textures or some such. Your games ability to handle script load is also tied to the FPS. If your pushing around 58FPS under full load well chances are your not going to crash due to stack dump. Then again you never mentioned if you used any modification to handle Skyrim's memory errors. I was unsure what exactly was tied to what, as I'm only going off assumptions from my efforts to troubleshoot. Yes, I'm using 2-4k textures, and as far as crash fixes... I'm using ENBoost, and the SKSE Memory patch. Apart from that, I'm not exactly sure what else there is to do. Apart from some unusual instances, my FPS is around 30-50. Crashes tend to be sudden and often unexplained, immediate CTDs with no warning. (Certain areas sometimes cause it multiple times, but going elsewhere and coming back always seems to fix it. So having an actual solid point of reference is difficult) One thing I've noticed though, is that I 'think' the Death Alternative issue is tied to an ENB... though why an ENB would remove the effect is beyond me. Any other information/ suggestions? Sorry, I'm just a tad clueless on which mods are worse/ better, or overall are likeliest to fail. Worst case is that I dump half the LoversLab mods (Maybe the mods enhancing Werewolf characters too... not sure if I'll even play as one.) Wow, well its going to take a load of little steps to dissect the entire beast. One issue at a time even when faced with a mountain. We're talking for you to know what I know would be a few years worth of educating. __________________ Now to the interaction of Death Alternatives, Fade to Black. ENB replacers shaders. There you go, ENB takes full charge of quite a lot of Skyrim's graphics rendering, that means that since ENB doesn't recognize that the ESP is trying to force to black the screen well its not going to render. Now I'm not saying that it isn't possible to have a challenging game with Sexlab Mods, Thing is its like you don't understand that you brought the most script intense mods from Nexus over here and started saying that its our mods fault your having issues. Jeesh. I'm only basing this on the fact that my game has few to no issues that I've noticed without the mods, and the crashes that I CAN see are usually tied to an animation/ event occurring through something like Cursed Loot/ one of the other mods. I actually think I also did try to remove all mods except the sexlab ones, and still had issues.... though that was maybe a month ago, as I gave up on Skyrim for a bit a while back. So, let me ask this then: In your expert opinion, I'd prefer to keep MNC/ aroused creatures, and if at all possible Cursed Loot. What would you suggest removing to counter the balance, both Lovers Lab - oriented and Nexus related. As I said, I'm a bit of a novice at modding... though I can safely say I have tried most everything that I can to make things work. This post was never solely aimed at Lovers Lab mods, only the CTDs that I 'have' had with events related to the mods. Right your basing it off of experience when having had a long standing history of using certain mods in your LO, Then suddenly you decide to add some more. You add some sexlab mods your game stops working and you declare that the mods you just added are the reason. Listen, what your describing is that you have a belief that a person can just add infinitely mods to Skyrim and if those mods are well made then the result will be that the game will always work. Its well known that line of thinking has never been the case with modding. Its also not well known that not all mods are well made, and quite a few of the top 100 must have mods are actually some of the worst offenders. If your going to be resistant to suggestion and insist that I explain and educate well, I don't have the time. I'm in school and building and maintaining my own mods, of which I have over 50 of. Sorry man, you should repost and wait for someone else to help.
Zeorik Posted August 26, 2016 Author Posted August 26, 2016 Right your basing it off of experience when having had a long standing history of using certain mods in your LO, Then suddenly you decide to add some more. You add some sexlab mods your game stops working and you declare that the mods you just added are the reason. Listen, what your describing is that you have a belief that a person can just add infinitely mods to Skyrim and if those mods are well made then the result will be that the game will always work. Its well known that line of thinking has never been the case with modding. Its also not well known that not all mods are well made, and quite a few of the top 100 must have mods are actually some of the worst offenders. If your going to be resistant to suggestion and insist that I explain and educate well, I don't have the time. I'm in school and building and maintaining my own mods, of which I have over 50 of. Sorry man, you should repost and wait for someone else to help. You seem a bit dense, eh? I've never stated that I could just "add mods infinitely", or that all these mods will work perfectly together. Tell me, how am I "resistant" to suggestions? I'm ASKING for suggestions for crying out loud. If you took two seconds to actually read instead of acting superior, you'd be able to notice that I'm ASKING for suggestions on what's the 'worst offender' of my current list, and what YOU think would be best to remove as a starting point. Maybe you ought to get the wax cleared out of your ears. just because someone's asking for help and admitting to be a novice, doesn't mean they're begging to be taught how to make mods work. I made this post with the intent on removing mods and possibly changing configurations settings, as I know it'd take HEAVY scripting work to deal with all the myriad of issues with the mods themselves. Edit: As someone pointed out, I missed the annotations to my LO, so I apologize for that. However, I have both Defeat and Death Alternative for a reason (Mainly, because Defeat isn't perfect in it's system, and more often than not I'd be killed outright instead of going down, without setting the hp cap high enough that actual combat is silly.)
Tweens Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 I'm not sure if you noticed or not; but gameplayer made notations in your LO quote. I missed it the first time I read through the thread, since it is all the same color. If you did notice, then please disregard.
Zeorik Posted August 26, 2016 Author Posted August 26, 2016 I'm not sure if you noticed or not; but gameplayer made notations in your LO quote. I missed it the first time I read through the thread, since it is all the same color. If you did notice, then please disregard. Actually, I didn't thanks. Though I feel that the notion of Frostfall being a culprit is a bit silly... After all, that mod was one of my recent additions when the game's been buggy for months. It's about as stable as it's ever been with the current setup. xD And with all the notions of dislike for aesthetics mods... something tells me they're not one to enjoy a 'challenging' atmosphere to the game, or at least to have night dark enough to actually use those useless torches.
WraithSlayer Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Actually, I didn't thanks. Though I feel that the notion of Frostfall being a culprit is a bit silly... After all, that mod was one of my recent additions when the game's been buggy for months. It's about as stable as it's ever been with the current setup. xD I see this all the time, and it's insane how often Frostfall gets bashed for being a script hog. Complex and feature-rich as the mod may be, its main loop is basically a single block of code that updates the player's exposure and UI elements every few seconds. That's it. There are specific situations where it'll temporarily put a bit more strain on Papyrus, like when you're placing a tent down, but you're never gonna notice the increased usage unless the scripting engine is already keeling over. Meanwhile, script-heavy mods with massive area-of-effect cloaks that constantly run scripts on everything that moves within a mile radius often get a free pass when it comes to script performance. I honestly get the feeling some people judge mods based on how many script files they have, not on what the scripts actually do. Regarding DA, you're not alone, it seems to be a somewhat buggy mod overall, or at least it was last time I tried it. If you're only using it for Defeat, I'd recommend ditching it, as Defeat already comes with a few in-built scenarios after a takedown. About CTDs, if you mean at the start/end of a sex animation, this is caused by the use of actor scaling by the SexLab framework. If you don't mind losing the scaling functionality, there's a plugin you can install to solve that particular CTD, just remember to disable scaling in MCM after you install it.
Zeorik Posted August 27, 2016 Author Posted August 27, 2016 Actually, I didn't thanks. Though I feel that the notion of Frostfall being a culprit is a bit silly... After all, that mod was one of my recent additions when the game's been buggy for months. It's about as stable as it's ever been with the current setup. xD I see this all the time, and it's insane how often Frostfall gets bashed for being a script hog. Complex and feature-rich as the mod may be, its main loop is basically a single block of code that updates the player's exposure and UI elements every few seconds. That's it. There are specific situations where it'll temporarily put a bit more strain on Papyrus, like when you're placing a tent down, but you're never gonna notice the increased usage unless the scripting engine is already keeling over. Meanwhile, script-heavy mods with massive area-of-effect cloaks that constantly run scripts on everything that moves within a mile radius often get a free pass when it comes to script performance. I honestly get the feeling some people judge mods based on how many script files they have, not on what the scripts actually do. Regarding DA, you're not alone, it seems to be a somewhat buggy mod overall, or at least it was last time I tried it. If you're only using it for Defeat, I'd recommend ditching it, as Defeat already comes with a few in-built scenarios after a takedown. About CTDs, if you mean at the start/end of a sex animation, this is caused by the use of actor scaling by the SexLab framework. If you don't mind losing the scaling functionality, there's a plugin you can install to solve that particular CTD, just remember to disable scaling in MCM after you install it. Actually, it's not during an animation. Walking around, opening chests, opening inventory, etc. In terms of things relating to LoversLab, I think it'd be based on the random events of... Devious Devices, Cursed Loot, etc. I recall one crash from what seemed to be the tentacle parasite from Cursed Loot, which is why I've disabled it... though something's still causing issues. Would you have any 'basic' tips for searching for the root problem? I've got most of the tools people use (As I have to run... what, 6 patchers? TES5Edit, Wyre Smash, and some Skyproc Patchers). In the Crash Dump for instance, is there a place to look for an item id/ code to look for in TES5Edit?
Ashkandii Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Like gameplayer said in his own way, you dont seem to have the most basic set-up for a stable skyrim, if you do please tell. SKSE.ini correctly done? Crash fixes? Safetyload (even this works despite people saying its redundant now) ENBHost/ENBboost All 4 of these together injects skyrim with some really good steroids and if you still haven't looked into this i command you to before even thinking about replying, it'll just waste time. Gameplayer is right whole-heartily (despite the aggression) YOU need to find out what mods you really need and what mods you really dont need and putting on unnecessary stress onto poor-poor skyrim. Colour coded your load order to my personal preference of what i would use. Easier on the eyes this way Okay Preference, but should be fine Re-think, do you actually need this Would not recommend I dont know what these are Now i dont know what playthrough your going for so i just assigned them to what i think, i would imagine weather mods are probably the most probable causes of crashes when outdoors, i personally use Vivid Weathers and hasen't affected my game in a bad way so far (been using since release) 05 Falskaar.esm 06 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 07 ApachiiHair.esm 08 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm09 BDHoodieSchlong.esp0A Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm0B SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm0C Campfire.esm0D moonpath.esm0E SexLab.esm [Version 1.62]0F Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3]10 SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.6]11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm13 daymoyl.esm14 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm16 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0]17 HighResTexturePack01.esp18 HighResTexturePack02.esp19 HighResTexturePack03.esp1A Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.2.0]1B Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 2.0.2]1C AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00]1D SkyUI.esp1E BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp1F ImmersiveFP.esp20 SMDropLitTorch.esp21 FNIS.esp22 Animated Dragon Wings.esp23 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp24 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp25 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp26 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp27 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp28 ELFX - Exteriors.esp29 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp2A Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp2B Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp2C Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp REPORTS OF CRASHES ON MAIN MOD PAGE2D Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp2E Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp2F Reptilian Feet.esp30 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp31 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b]32 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp33 SD Cages.esp [Version 2.70]34 SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.13]35 OBIS.esp36 FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp37 SoS - Civilization.esp [Version 1.02]38 w2salem.esp39 Dr_Bandolier.esp3A SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp3B SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp3C Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp3D Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp3E SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp [Version 3.0]3F CraftableClothes.esp40 NARC.esp41 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp; Personally use Ordinator more light-weight and easier to use42 DeadlyDragons.esp Personally use Diverse Dragons collection 2.043 Dual Sheath Redux.esp44 ELE_Fs_Lite.esp45 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp (can cause crashes)46 One With Nature - DG+DB SkyTEST.esp Use this or skytest, they do the same thing really.47 EstrusChaurus.esp48 zzEstrus.esp49 12FemaleBrows.esp4A sr_FillHerUp.esp4B Footprints.esp4C Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 4D Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp4E mintylightningmod.esp4F Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp50 TrueStorms.esp51 MoreSnowWindyand150percentLessView.esp52 MoreNastyCritters.esp53 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp54 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp55 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp56 OBISDB.esp57 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp58 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp59 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp5A Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a]5B BDIC.esp5C BDIC SkyTEST Patch.esp5D PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp5E RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 5F BloodmoonRising.esp60 SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.23]61 Captured Dreams.esp62 HentaiCreatures.esp63 Immersive Weapons.esp64 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp65 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp66 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp 67 The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp68 sanguinesDebauchery.esp can only recommend this mod on a very small load order, personal experience this mod anally screws my game.69 CBColourCustomArgon.esp6A Frostfall.esp6B SMIM-Merged-All.esp6C moonpath_questdata.esp6D Deviously Cursed Loot.esp Will cause crashes when looting eventually. 6E Val Lyrea.esp6F sr_FillThemUp.esp70 arnima.esp71 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp72 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp73 SexLab_Dialogues.esp74 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp75 ForgottenCity.esp76 Bandit Patrols.esp77 sextoys-calyps-2.esp78 CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp79 CCO_SIC_Patch.esp7A Dead Body Collision.esp7B Devious Deviants.esp7C PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp7D Duel - Combat Realism.esp Personal preference again, i used combat elvoved then switched to Wildcat (Enai is love, Enai is life)7E dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp7F ELFX - Moonpath.esp80 Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp81 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp82 SOS - Shop.esp83 Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp84 RabbitHole.esp85 Skytest USLEEP.esp86 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.9]87 DarkwaterDen.esp88 Immersive Music Temples.esp89 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp8A Immersive Music.esp8B summersetisles.esp [PERSONAL EXPERIENCE] Crashes anytime i think about playing this mod8C ArrowInTheEverywhere_Insane.esp8D P1FlyingRing.esp8E FunctionalBags.esp8F SFO - Dragonborn.esp90 Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp91 MaddBag.esp92 CleanArrowPlayer.esp93 OBISCCOR&IA8.esp94 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp95 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp96 imp_helm_legend.esp97 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8]98 Predator Vision.esp99 Purewaters.esp, Personally use Realistic waters 2, i use to always use Pure, but RW2 comes with a nice ENB colouring option9A RaceMenu.esp9B RaceMenuPlugin.esp9C Real Feeding V3.esp9D dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp9E RND_AnimalLoot.esp9F RND_PureWaters-Patch.espA0 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.espA1 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.espA2 SDpatch - frostfall.espA3 SexLab Aroused Creatures.espA4 Skytest Immersive Creatures.espA5 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.espA6 SexLabDefeat.espA7 SLALAnimObj.espA8 SLAnimLoader.espA9 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.espAA SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espAB SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.espAC Soul Gems Differ.espAD TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.espAE Supreme Storms - Cot Version.espAF TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.espB0 UIExtensions.espB1 Unique Uniques WAFR Patch.esp [Version 1.3]B2 VioLens.esp [Version 2.11]B3 SOSRaceMenu.espB4 XPMSE.espB5 SexLabMassMatchMaker.espB6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.4]B7 TES5Merged.espB8 Bashed Patch, 0.espB9 ASIS-Dependency.espBA ASIS.espBB PatchusMaximus.espBC Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Zeorik Posted August 27, 2016 Author Posted August 27, 2016 Like gameplayer said in his own way, you dont seem to have the most basic set-up for a stable skyrim, if you do please tell. SKSE.ini correctly done? Crash fixes? Safetyload (even this works despite people saying its redundant now) ENBHost/ENBboost All 4 of these together injects skyrim with some really good steroids and if you still haven't looked into this i command you to before even thinking about replying, it'll just waste time. Gameplayer is right whole-heartily (despite the aggression) YOU need to find out what mods you really need and what mods you really dont need and putting on unnecessary stress onto poor-poor skyrim. Colour coded your load order to my personal preference of what i would use. Easier on the eyes this way Okay Preference, but should be fine Re-think, do you actually need this Would not recommend I dont know what these are Now i dont know what playthrough your going for so i just assigned them to what i think, i would imagine weather mods are probably the most probable causes of crashes when outdoors, i personally use Vivid Weathers and hasen't affected my game in a bad way so far (been using since release) 05 Falskaar.esm 06 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 07 ApachiiHair.esm 08 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 09 BDHoodieSchlong.esp 0A Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0B SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 0C Campfire.esm 0D moonpath.esm 0E SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] 0F Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] 10 SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.6] 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 daymoyl.esm 14 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 17 HighResTexturePack01.esp 18 HighResTexturePack02.esp 19 HighResTexturePack03.esp 1A Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.2.0] 1B Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 2.0.2] 1C AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00] 1D SkyUI.esp 1E BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp 1F ImmersiveFP.esp 20 SMDropLitTorch.esp 21 FNIS.esp 22 Animated Dragon Wings.esp 23 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp 24 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 25 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 26 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 27 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 28 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 29 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp 2A Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 2B Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 2C Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp REPORTS OF CRASHES ON MAIN MOD PAGE 2D Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 2E Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 2F Reptilian Feet.esp 30 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 31 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] 32 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp 33 SD Cages.esp [Version 2.70] 34 SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.13] 35 OBIS.esp 36 FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp 37 SoS - Civilization.esp [Version 1.02] 38 w2salem.esp 39 Dr_Bandolier.esp 3A SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp 3B SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp 3C Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 3D Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 3E SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp [Version 3.0] 3F CraftableClothes.esp 40 NARC.esp 41 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp; Personally use Ordinator more light-weight and easier to use 42 DeadlyDragons.esp Personally use Diverse Dragons collection 2.0 43 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 44 ELE_Fs_Lite.esp 45 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp (can cause crashes) 46 One With Nature - DG+DB SkyTEST.esp Use this or skytest, they do the same thing really. 47 EstrusChaurus.esp 48 zzEstrus.esp 49 12FemaleBrows.esp 4A sr_FillHerUp.esp 4B Footprints.esp 4C Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 4D Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp 4E mintylightningmod.esp 4F Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp 50 TrueStorms.esp 51 MoreSnowWindyand150percentLessView.esp 52 MoreNastyCritters.esp 53 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 54 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 55 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 56 OBISDB.esp 57 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 58 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 59 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp 5A Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] 5B BDIC.esp 5C BDIC SkyTEST Patch.esp 5D PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 5E RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 5F BloodmoonRising.esp 60 SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.23] 61 Captured Dreams.esp 62 HentaiCreatures.esp 63 Immersive Weapons.esp 64 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 65 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 66 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp 67 The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp 68 sanguinesDebauchery.esp can only recommend this mod on a very small load order, personal experience this mod anally screws my game. 69 CBColourCustomArgon.esp 6A Frostfall.esp 6B SMIM-Merged-All.esp 6C moonpath_questdata.esp 6D Deviously Cursed Loot.esp Will cause crashes when looting eventually. 6E Val Lyrea.esp 6F sr_FillThemUp.esp 70 arnima.esp 71 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp 72 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 73 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 74 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 75 ForgottenCity.esp 76 Bandit Patrols.esp 77 sextoys-calyps-2.esp 78 CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp 79 CCO_SIC_Patch.esp 7A Dead Body Collision.esp 7B Devious Deviants.esp 7C PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 7D Duel - Combat Realism.esp Personal preference again, i used combat elvoved then switched to Wildcat (Enai is love, Enai is life) 7E dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 7F ELFX - Moonpath.esp 80 Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp 81 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 82 SOS - Shop.esp 83 Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp 84 RabbitHole.esp 85 Skytest USLEEP.esp 86 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.9] 87 DarkwaterDen.esp 88 Immersive Music Temples.esp 89 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp 8A Immersive Music.esp 8B summersetisles.esp [PERSONAL EXPERIENCE] Crashes anytime i think about playing this mod 8C ArrowInTheEverywhere_Insane.esp 8D P1FlyingRing.esp 8E FunctionalBags.esp 8F SFO - Dragonborn.esp 90 Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp 91 MaddBag.esp 92 CleanArrowPlayer.esp 93 OBISCCOR&IA8.esp 94 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp 95 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp 96 imp_helm_legend.esp 97 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8] 98 Predator Vision.esp 99 Purewaters.esp, Personally use Realistic waters 2, i use to always use Pure, but RW2 comes with a nice ENB colouring option 9A RaceMenu.esp 9B RaceMenuPlugin.esp 9C Real Feeding V3.esp 9D dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 9E RND_AnimalLoot.esp 9F RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp A0 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp A1 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp A2 SDpatch - frostfall.esp A3 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp A4 Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp A5 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp A6 SexLabDefeat.esp A7 SLALAnimObj.esp A8 SLAnimLoader.esp A9 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp AA SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp AB SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp AC Soul Gems Differ.esp AD TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp AE Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp AF TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp B0 UIExtensions.esp B1 Unique Uniques WAFR Patch.esp [Version 1.3] B2 VioLens.esp [Version 2.11] B3 SOSRaceMenu.esp B4 XPMSE.esp B5 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp B6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.4] B7 TES5Merged.esp B8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp B9 ASIS-Dependency.esp BA ASIS.esp BB PatchusMaximus.esp BC Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp ENBoost= yes SKSE ini= should be fine crash fixes= Think I ditched this for one reason or another, will re-add it Safetyload= Think I saw this, read it was redundant and for one reason or another (think it was Crash fixes, though crash fixes' supposed 'RAM block remover' didn't work at all for me) I ignored it As for SkyUI... how could you possibly suggest that's not necessary? the default UI is HORRIBLE... good for consoles, but not PC On a side-note... I thought SkyTEST changed NPC behavior and added more 'life' to their movements, while One With Nature just changed the faction flag so they don't attack you. (Like to be friendly to foxes and wolves <3 ) and if it changes your mod listings at all.... I was going for a realistic-looking and feeling Skyrim, with moderate challenge and some lewd 'dangers' if I'm careless.
WraithSlayer Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 As for SkyUI... how could you possibly suggest that's not necessary? the default UI is HORRIBLE... good for consoles, but not PC Pretty sure that was a mistake. You need SkyUI for MCM, which is something a whole lot of mods in your load order require, so it's definitely not optional.
Ashkandii Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 As for SkyUI... how could you possibly suggest that's not necessary? the default UI is HORRIBLE... good for consoles, but not PC Pretty sure that was a mistake. You need SkyUI for MCM, which is something a whole lot of mods in your load order require, so it's definitely not optional. yeah, damn easy to make a mistake considering how many i had to individually colour, As for the Skytest it main focus is pretty much make them have a smaller detection radius for attacking, One with nature i believe you can just set-it. the changes are not very noticeable better just to use one or the other. Heres my load-order, i go for the same thing, i've been heavily modding skyrim since mid-2014 and i have scrapped alot of mods i've pretty much used all these immersive,realistic mods etc and pretty much what i came up with I very rarely crash. Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp OSA.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Nock2Tip.esm Campfire.esm hdtHighHeel.esm notice board.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp AnotherSortingMod-2016.esp Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp DialogueTweaks.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp OpulentThievesGuild.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp SLO_StoneWalls.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp JKs LITE - Merged.esp AKSkyrimUnderground.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp SOTGenesisMod.esp Underground Genesis Patch.esp Beasts of Tamriel.esp more idle markers.esp Clockwork.esp Atlas Legendary.esp Immersive Weapons.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp fallentreebridges.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Hopesabandon.esp Vivid Weathers.esp Foggy Morthal and Swamp.esp Nock2Tip.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp CaranthirTowerReborn.esp Darkend.esp AshIsle.esp Blowing in the Wind.esp WitcherCrossbows.esp DSpSoB.esp Immersive Music Temples.esp Immersive Music Replacer.esp WhiterunApartment.esp notice board - dragonborn patch.esp 00marztower.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp Auriel's Divine Bow.esp BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1.esp SkyUI.esp Customizable Camera.esp Differently Ebony.esp VioLens.esp Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp Ebonygreatbow.esp El_WayfarersCoat.esp Elven Archer Armor.esp Extended UI.esp FNIS.esp FNISspells.esp Faction Crossbows.esp Footprints.esp Handsome Courier.esp HoneyEyes.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Immersive NPC in the dark.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp NoRadialBlur.esp RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RealNames.esp Realistic HD Beverages.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp RevampedExteriorFog.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp YurianaWench.esp SR Daemonic Followers.esp SRfreckles.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Serana.esp SeranaDialogEdit.esp Shalamayne - Johnskyrim.esp SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp StormcloakHeroGear.esp TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp Tentapalooza.esp Farinelli's Redguard Armoury.esp Unique Uniques.esp Vivid Weathers - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp XPMSE.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp iHUD.esp iLuvLoading.esp imp_helm_legend.esp QueenMiraak.esp ogDiverseDragons2.esp vAutosaveManager.esp ResplendentArmor.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp ' I could probably add alot more like frostfall, RND but i dont want to get tooo realistic, unless im going for that exact type of playthrough then i would only install realistic mods, you just got to do some management as much as possible. constantly thinking do i really need this? rather then "its too cool to not have" whats the point of having all these immersion mods if my game crashes every 30 minutes. if it crashes once per 2-4 hours i consider that a very well put together mod list.
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