MBP question.....

[Xhominid]

I downloaded MBP for the express purpose of not looking at a bunch of ugly people in Oblivion, as well as having a sexy character....except I just can't find a way to make them look gorgeous....

 

Don't get me wrong, I used HGEC, DMRA BBB, and the HGEC body and face customizers, they look better, but the problem is the FACE. None of the people I made even remotely gets close to the faces that MBP actually uses.

 

While I will post my Load Order(though I easily doubt that's my problem as I had far worse....) I'm using this OMOD file:

mbp1.4afull&mbp++0.94a&x117++0.78allin1_2.3

 

Instead of the other one I had because I thought it would help...barely changed much....

 

I believed what caused my problem last time was the XeoSP++.esp, which gave me the no eyes, purple skin deal(although, that could also be associated with the Champon.esm that wasn't needed with the OMOD MBP I had before) and I even DL'ed the XeoSP++.bsa, but it still didn't seem to help....

 

TD;LR everything of that MBP file seemed to have carried over fine(Hair, Eyes, races, maybe the skin files....maybe) but not the face, which does not have the detail most of the pics I've seen have, can anyone help?

 

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
03  Lovers with PK.esm
04  BreakUndies.esm
05  LoversCreature.esm
06  x117race.esm
07  Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp  [Version 1.0]
08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
0B  Countess Wear Gowns 1.1.esp
0C  DLCHorseArmor.esp
0D  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
0E  DLCOrrery.esp
0F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
10  DLCVileLair.esp
11  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
12  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
13  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
14  DLCSpellTomes.esp
15  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
16  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
17  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
18  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
19  BSK Break Undies.esp
1A  ANBRedNinja.esp
1B  Dancers clothes.esp
1C  HentaiDarkLilith.esp
1D  FEZA Vesta Set.esp
1E  icearmor.esp
1F  moon.esp
20  DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp
21  DMRA  Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp
22  DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp
23  JB Catsuit Variants.esp  [Version 1.5.]
24  Mai's Clothes.esp
25  JB Catsuit Weapons.esp  [Version 1.5.]
26  KAIHIME.esp
27  Red Samurai.esp
28  Nier Replicant- kaine outfit.esp
29  DLCThievesDen.esp
2A  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
2C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
2D  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
2E  mystery of mausoleum.esp
2F  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
30  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
31  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
32  DLCFrostcrag.esp
33  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
34  Knights.esp
35  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
36  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
37  JannetEveningDress.esp
38  77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp
39  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
3A  Sexy Light Blackwood Armor.esp
3B  Neo's Kasumi and Tina.esp
3C  Sexy Daedric Priestess.esp
3D  ArcaneWarrior.esp
3E  Takidress.esp
3F  Sophitia_BKS.esp
40  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
41  Armory of MoM2.esp
42  LoversSetBody.esp
43  LoversFSE.esp
44  LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
45  LoversHideMenus.esp
46  LoversRapeSlave.esp
47  LoversLight.esp
48  LoversBackup2.esp
49  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
4A  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
4B  LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp
4C  LoversRaperS.esp
4D  LoversJoburg.esp
4E  LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp
4F  LoversBed.esp
50  LoversNecrophilia.esp
51  LoversPower.esp
52  LoversContraception.esp
53  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 90]
54  MH Harvest Melan Armors for BUv2.esp
55  MH Harvest Melan Armors.esp
56  MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp
57  LoversBitch.esp
58  LoversCreature.esp
59  DMRA - BBB+BButts pack.esp
5A  Lovers with PK Extender.esp  [Version 2.4]
5B  LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp
5C  LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp
5D  LoversStopCombatEx.esp
5E  LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
5F  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
60  AdeptSorceress.esp
61  Armored Princess.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
62  Real_Mannequin.esp
63  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
64  LoversMB2.esp
65  Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
66  Lovers3dorgasm.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
67  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
68  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

P.S. I dl'ed the DRMA BBB + BB armors and I have the DRMA BBB files...but I guess I'm blind and can't see the jiggle(and I can't even tell if the breasts jiggle because I can't freeroam my camera...) I'm guessing I need to tweak the DRMA(or the skeleton?) to get the Butt to bounce....or I need a mesh that has a huge ass to actually see it?

[gregathit]

Xhominid,

 

Let me save you a bit of the brain teasing:

 

MBP is a passive plugin. What this means is that it waits for other plugins to use it. It does NOT change vanilla NPC's unless you use a mod like this: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3087

 

Now Xeo is the opposite - it was designed as a "replacer" plugin meaning it replaces vanilla assets in the game. To resolve the missing eyes and purple skin you needed to have followed the instructions in the Xeo thread to the letter (like installing XeoSP version1.0 first and then XeoSP++, then deleting some folders and installing the updates. Lastly you need to drop the XeoSP++.esp down towards the bottom of your load order. Oh, and don't forget to archive invalidate!!!!!

 

To make breasts jiggle you need three things:

1. BBB skeleton - growlf's universal skeleton is the latest (use the "controllable" version). Link: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/37596

2. BBB mesh - this can be a naked body, clothes or armor that has had the BBB treatment done to it.

3. BBB animation. This can be walking, running, sex and/or any animation that has had the BBB treatment. A good bbb animation set is our very own Fore's NoMaaM plugin: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/35551

[gregathit]

Also looking at your load order you have the following error:

 

66 Lovers3dorgasm.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

 

What this means is that you need to drop Lovers3dorgasm.esp down BELOW LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp in your load order. LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp is the MASTER file and Lovers3dorgasm.esp is the dependent. Dependents must be below their master files in order to work correctly.

[kickthecommie]

The Oblivion Overhaul by colourwheels gives you nice looking, realistic people. Your previous issues with XEO may have been caused by load order problems, but I cannot be sure. MBP only provides resources to create good-looking characters. That all in one pack you are using also seemed to be missing some resources when I looked into it. Try dragging over the textures and meshes from the separate BP, MBP, and MBP++ mods.

 

Getting nice faces also relies on decent face and hand textures. There is one popular 4096x4096 texture set that supports a few custom races. Keep in mind that the vast majority of screenshots from Japanese mod creators are heavily photoshopped to remove the quirks of the Oblivion lighting system. Even those characters will not look good from every angle.

 

As for the BBB issues, make sure that you are using the Growlf skeleton and that your character animations support those particular bone movements. Sorry, but going by the fact that you lack a specialanims.esp I will have to assume that you have not downloaded these custom animations.

 

Actually creating characters is a fine art that requires a good deal of trial and error to perfect. Try starting off with a race that looks decent from the get-go, like Lattamer elves, and meticulously setting each slider for the facial features, looking at what exactly they all do.

[Xhominid]

Xhominid' date='

 

Let me save you a bit of the brain teasing:

 

MBP is a passive plugin. What this means is that it waits for other plugins to use it. It does NOT change vanilla NPC's unless you use a mod like this: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3087

 

Now Xeo is the opposite - it was designed as a "replacer" plugin meaning it replaces vanilla assets in the game. To resolve the missing eyes and purple skin you needed to have followed the instructions in the Xeo thread to the letter (like installing XeoSP version1.0 first and then XeoSP++, then deleting some folders and installing the updates. Lastly you need to drop the XeoSP++.esp down towards the bottom of your load order. Oh, and don't forget to archive invalidate!!!!!

 

To make breasts jiggle you need three things:

1. BBB skeleton - growlf's universal skeleton is the latest (use the "controllable" version). Link: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/37596

2. BBB mesh - this can be a naked body, clothes or armor that has had the BBB treatment done to it.

3. BBB animation. This can be walking, running, sex and/or any animation that has had the BBB treatment. A good bbb animation set is our very own Fore's NoMaaM plugin: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/35551

[/quote']

 

Also looking at your load order you have the following error:

 

66 Lovers3dorgasm.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

 

What this means is that you need to drop Lovers3dorgasm.esp down BELOW LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp in your load order. LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp is the MASTER file and Lovers3dorgasm.esp is the dependent. Dependents must be below their master files in order to work correctly.

 

Ah....so that explains a good chunk of it already...so I need to find MBP related files or stuff that works with it then right? And I followed that to the letter(well, now anyways), I just haven't tried seeing if Xeosp++ works without screwing everything else up. Yeah, I probably have a bad skeleton and need more uses of the animations than simple walking....

 

and yeah, I corrected that last one...I don't know how I screwed that up lol

[Xhominid]

The Oblivion Overhaul by colourwheels gives you nice looking' date=' realistic people. Your previous issues with XEO may have been caused by load order problems, but I cannot be sure. MBP only provides resources to create good-looking characters. That all in one pack you are using also seemed to be missing some resources when I looked into it. Try dragging over the textures and meshes from the separate BP, MBP, and MBP++ mods.

 

Getting nice faces also relies on decent face and hand textures. There is one popular 4096x4096 texture set that supports a few custom races. Keep in mind that the vast majority of screenshots from Japanese mod creators are heavily photoshopped to remove the quirks of the Oblivion lighting system. Even those characters will not look good from every angle.

 

As for the BBB issues, make sure that you are using the Growlf skeleton and that your character animations support those particular bone movements. Sorry, but going by the fact that you lack a specialanims.esp I will have to assume that you have not downloaded these custom animations.

 

Actually creating characters is a fine art that requires a good deal of trial and error to perfect. Try starting off with a race that looks decent from the get-go, like Lattamer elves, and meticulously setting each slider for the facial features, looking at what exactly they all do.

[/quote']

Now that's some great info there! I'll try checking Xeosp++.esp again, and if it's having fits again, I'll just dl'ed BP, MBP and MBP++ meshes and textures then.

[Xhominid]

Yep, it was that random Champon mod which caused my distress, as I just turned on Xeosp++.esp and it's now working fine....

 

I'm going to use the Face Texture Mod and see if that helps(basically, the body is absolutely no problem to me, I have the tools to make it look alright, it's just I want to ATLEAST get close to the typical MBP face....)

 

and what are the lammatar race? I can't find them at all, you mean the lop eared elfs?

 

P.S. I know some people(if not everyone) has the Face Texture Mod, what textures do you use? Normal Mapping only or Face Text with NM and do you use Imperial Textures with it or no?

[Nihaoma]

http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/42218

[Xhominid]

http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/42218

 

I know, at this point, I may dl all the meshes and textures and try from there....

 

My problem is that the NPCs and others look nice(every time I start over and go start at the docks, I see this ridiculously good looking beggar ALL the time, everyone else depends) but they look NOTHING like what most of your guys characters do(mainly the face department although the body texture may be the case too) so thanks for that first version, I'll probably dl the first one and start from there.

[Xhominid]

I'm just going to uninstall and reinstall Oblivion and do it the old fashioned way and follow the instructions to the exact letter(it's going to be a bitch getting everything again but I must at this point....)

[Poontank]

This is the version of the Lattamer I'm using: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/21608

 

One other little but important factor if you strive for the look along the lines of those character shots for example posted on Japanese boards:

 

Have you tried switching off the use of vanilla face texturing? This completely prevents the game from applying ugly age and skin tone shaders. You can find the Oblivion.ini in the 'My Games/Oblivion' folder, open it and look for one of the topmost settings called 'bFaceGenTexturing=1'. Simply change the 1 to a zero and save the ini. If you don't like the look, it can be reverted again as easily.

 

I for one prefer and am used to this look for a long time, after trying out several face texture options and mods which all weren't to my liking.

[Xhominid]

This is the version of the Lattamer I'm using: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/21608

 

One other little but important factor if you strive for the look along the lines of those character shots for example posted on Japanese boards:

 

Have you tried switching off the use of vanilla face texturing? This completely prevents the game from applying ugly age and skin tone shaders. You can find the Oblivion.ini in the 'My Games/Oblivion' folder' date=' open it and look for one of the topmost settings called 'bFaceGenTexturing=1'. Simply change the 1 to a zero and save the ini. If you don't like the look, it can be reverted again as easily.

 

I for one prefer and am used to this look for a long time, after trying out several face texture options and mods which all weren't to my liking.

[/quote']

 

I didn't seem to see them at all in my game....not named as Lattamer anyways...nor did I see them look that way.

 

And I also believe I used that as well...to barely any effect...

[Xhominid]

Okay, I fully completed the tutorial of MBP 1.8.0 fix, MBP 1.4 full, and MBP++ mod, as well as the Eyecandy Face Textures.

 

But I still can't get anyone to look different...I even used the bFaceGenTexturing=0 and while they may look different, I doubt it's a major change...

 

I'll try the F-INevOblivion_skinset合集 mod and see if that helps...

 

Ugh....for some reason, only some of the new races even HAVE the anime faces, the rest still seem like they are old as hell unless I force the age meter to the lowest setting...

[perfectioncat]

Okay' date=' I fully completed the tutorial of MBP 1.8.0 fix, MBP 1.4 full, and MBP++ mod, as well as the Eyecandy Face Textures.

 

But I still can't get anyone to look different...I even used the bFaceGenTexturing=0 and while they may look different, I doubt it's a major change...

 

I'll try the F-INevOblivion_skinset合集 mod and see if that helps...

 

Ugh....for some reason, only some of the new races even HAVE the anime faces, the rest still seem like they are old as hell unless I force the age meter to the lowest setting...

[/quote']

I think it is good when the image is pasted like understanding whether to differ from the desire of where. 

Because it might possibly be normal. 

[Xhominid]

Okay' date=' I fully completed the tutorial of MBP 1.8.0 fix, MBP 1.4 full, and MBP++ mod, as well as the Eyecandy Face Textures.

 

But I still can't get anyone to look different...I even used the bFaceGenTexturing=0 and while they may look different, I doubt it's a major change...

 

I'll try the F-INevOblivion_skinset合集 mod and see if that helps...

 

Ugh....for some reason, only some of the new races even HAVE the anime faces, the rest still seem like they are old as hell unless I force the age meter to the lowest setting...

[/quote']

I think it is good when the image is pasted like understanding whether to differ from the desire of where. 

Because it might possibly be normal. 

 

Yea, I've been thinking of doing so for quite awhile....

I'll throw in a pic when I can...

[Xhominid]

 

 

That's with FaceGenText on 0

For some reason, it works on some races, then it just doesn't for others...and then I can see it's working....sort of:

 

 

 

 

He looks far different than before, no doubt, but he still looks plain...and I do know MBP is working, it's just not where I believe it should be working completely....

 

I have the High Rez Face Textures(that came from the HG Body Textures Mod) and I honestly don't know how to use it effectively...

 

Is it Normal Mapping Only? Or Face Textures + Normal Mapping? Do I need to add the races in the files like Body Textures? Do I use Imperial Races + Female Faces Option or just Imperial Races or neither?

 

I know I can possibly solve this dilemma if I know whats the standard to use that thing....

 

And here's my load order if that's the problem somehow

 

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  BreakUndies.esm
02  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
03  x117race.esm
04  Lovers with PK.esm
05  Lattamerv3.esm
06  LoversCreature.esm
07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
09  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
0A  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
0B  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
0C  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp
0D  xeosp++ Vwalk.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: xeosp++.esp
0E  DLCHorseArmor.esp
0F  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
10  DLCOrrery.esp
11  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
12  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
13  DLCVileLair.esp
14  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
15  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
16  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
17  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp
18  DLCSpellTomes.esp
19  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
1A  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
1B  DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp
1C  DMRA  Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp
1D  DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp
1E  DLCThievesDen.esp
1F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
20  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
21  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp
22  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
23  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
24  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
25  DLCFrostcrag.esp
26  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
27  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
28  Knights.esp
29  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
2A  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp
2B  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
2C  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
2D  LoversSetBody.esp
2E  LoversAphrodisia.esp
2F  LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp
30  LoversFSE.esp
31  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
32  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
33  LoversRaperS.esp
34  LoversJoburg.esp
35  LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp
36  LoversBed.esp
37  LoversBedNonStop.esp
38  LoversPower.esp
39  LoversContraception.esp
3A  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 94]
3B  LoversBitch.esp
3C  LoversCreature.esp
3D  Lovers with PK Extender.esp  [Version 2.4.3]
3E  LoversSoundCreature.esp  [Version 0.1.0]
++  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp
++  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp
++  LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp
3F  LoversStopCombatEx.esp
40  LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
41  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
42  LoversRapeStruggle.esp
43  LoversAdultYield.esp
44  LoversMagic.esp
45  LoversUnicorn.esp
46  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
47  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
48  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp
49  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
4A  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
4B  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
4C  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
4D  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
4E  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
4F  LoversMB2.esp
50  Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
51  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
52  Lovers3dorgasm.esp
53  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
54  xeosp++.esp

 

 

 

P.S. When I use the Masturbate spell, I get that Yellow thing that states I'm missing a mesh(not sure if it applies to sex as well, but it probably does...), anyone can easily tell what I'm missing?(tried redl'ing the plugin and meshes from Resources and that doesn't seem to be it.)

[gregathit]

Well, for starters you need to fix this:

0D xeosp++ Vwalk.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: xeosp++.esp

 

What Wrye is trying to tell you is that Xeosp++ Vwalk.esp needs to be below Xeosp++.esp.

 

Corrected example:

xeosp++.esp

xeosp++ Vwalk.esp

 

Next you need to merge all of the Beautiful people esp's with the exception of Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp into your bashed patch and then leave them disabled (merging them should disable them but if it doesn't then manually do it).

 

The emporer is changed but it is NOT MBP that is changing him but rather it is XEO. MBP is a passive plugin meaning that it will not change anyone! Think of it like a resource. It is there for other plugins to use but it won't force any changes itself unless you get another plugin that will do so like this one: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3087

 

Xeo is what is changing the in game NPC's and what you will want to work on. Perhaps you meant this and just accidentally said MBP but I just wanted to make sure more confusion was not spread around.

 

If you are getting a yellow missing mesh symbol then you have not installed something correctly. Try reinstalling the resource pack and base pack again along with reinstalling the 3d orgasm mod. Make certain that all files go into their correct locations.

 

Hope that helps on a few of the issues.

Greg

[Xhominid]

Well' date=' for starters you need to fix this:

0D xeosp++ Vwalk.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: xeosp++.esp

 

What Wrye is trying to tell you is that Xeosp++ Vwalk.esp needs to be below Xeosp++.esp.

 

Corrected example:

xeosp++.esp

xeosp++ Vwalk.esp

 

Next you need to merge all of the Beautiful people esp's with the exception of Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp into your bashed patch and then leave them disabled (merging them should disable them but if it doesn't then manually do it).

 

The emporer is changed but it is NOT MBP that is changing him but rather it is XEO. MBP is a passive plugin meaning that it will not change anyone! Think of it like a resource. It is there for other plugins to use but it won't force any changes itself unless you get another plugin that will do so like this one: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3087

 

Xeo is what is changing the in game NPC's and what you will want to work on. Perhaps you meant this and just accidentally said MBP but I just wanted to make sure more confusion was not spread around.

 

If you are getting a yellow missing mesh symbol then you have not installed something correctly. Try reinstalling the resource pack and base pack again along with reinstalling the 3d orgasm mod. Make certain that all files go into their correct locations.

 

Hope that helps on a few of the issues.

Greg

[/quote']

 

1. Yeah, I did that only because I thought it would help...lol

 

2. Ok, that helps. Should I include the Master MBP as well?

 

3. AH, you told me about it, but that truly does make sense...Then where is that XeoRC4 or something I hear about? That may be what I need for it to actually look like how others do then.

 

4. Does this: F-INevOblivion skinset合集.

Go well with Xeo in any way? And should I add in MaleBodyReplacer too? In fact, can you try and name what mods help with Xeo and MBP?

 

5. Okay then.

[gregathit]

2. Ok' date=' that helps. Should I include the Master MBP as well?

[/quote']

If you mean including the esm files in your bashed patch - Yes, but do not disable them!!!! Never try to merge and disable an esm file or you will likely get a CTD...

 

 

 

3. AH' date=' you told me about it, but that truly does make sense...Then where is that XeoRC4 or something I hear about? That may be what I need for it to actually look like how others do then.

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Well if you google it you likely can find a link to the RC version of Xeo but I do NOT recommend installing it as it does not play as well with MBP as XeoSP/XeoSP++ do. Think of XeoSP++ as the latest version of Xeo.

 

 

 

4. Does this: F-INevOblivion skinset合集.

Go well with Xeo in any way? And should I add in MaleBodyReplacer too? In fact' date=' can you try and name what mods help with Xeo and MBP?

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Skinsets can improve the look of characters, but since beauty is in the eye of the beholder I can't really tell you one way or another. If you install it via wrye using bain you can roll back without messing up your current configuration.

 

Other skinsets to check out: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2460

 

You will need a male body replacer installed at some point if you want naked toons. Before you start installing a bunch of skinsets you need to either pick a male and female body mod or install a setbody mod (set body mods contain many different bodies to choose from in game).

[Xhominid]

If you mean including the esm files in your bashed patch - Yes' date=' but do not disable them!!!! Never try to merge and disable an esm file or you will likely get a CTD...[/quote']

Alright then.

 

Well if you google it you likely can find a link to the RC version of Xeo but I do NOT recommend installing it as it does not play as well with MBP as XeoSP/XeoSP++ do. Think of XeoSP++ as the latest version of Xeo.

True....but I was trying to see if that will help with this though...but I'll take your word for it.

 

Skinsets can improve the look of characters, but since beauty is in the eye of the beholder I can't really tell you one way or another. If you install it via wrye using bain you can roll back without messing up your current configuration.

 

Other skinsets to check out: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2460

 

You will need a male body replacer installed at some point if you want naked toons. Before you start installing a bunch of skinsets you need to either pick a male and female body mod or install a setbody mod (set body mods contain many different bodies to choose from in game).

Which one of those helps my characters look anime style? Or tleast far more polished? And I have a Setbody Mod, so I'm good with that.

 

[gregathit]

Which one of those helps my characters look anime style? Or tleast far more polished? And I have a Setbody Mod' date=' so I'm good with that.

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More anime style....well I don't think either will make them more.

 

As for polished - generally the higher resolution ones (not always) will do this. Try the skinsets from this one http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2460 (its the same link I gave you earlier) and I think you will like it.

[Meng Yi]

I've got a question, and maybe it is the right place to ask.

I've installed mbp, mbp++ and xeosp/xeosp++. This time, i've created several archives to used them in wrye bash, everything was going fine, i used the archive invalidation like i've read to do it.

 

So my question is why all the npc's have a normal eye and the other one is a completly black and red eye. What is the cause of this ?

 

Here is my load order if it can help

 

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Lovers with PK.esm

02 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]

04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

05 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

06 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.1.8]

07 BreakUndies.esm

08 LoversCreature.esm

09 Race Repository.esm

0A Minotaur Race.esm

0B x117race.esm

0C xeosp++.esp

** xeosp++ Vwalk.esp

0D FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp

0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1]

0F UOPS Additional Changes.esp

10 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

12 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0]

13 USIPS Additional Changes.esp

14 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]

15 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34]

16 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34]

17 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]

18 OBGE - Liquid Water.esp

19 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34]

1A WindowLightingSystem.esp

1B Female Lich.esp

1C Real_Mannequin.esp

1D Populated Prisons.esp

1E _Prison_Mod_(TLB) v0.3b.esp

1F Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.42]

20 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]

21 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]

22 TmeppCycleSave.esp

23 DLCHorseArmor.esp

24 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]

25 DLCOrrery.esp

26 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp

27 DLCVileLair.esp

28 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]

29 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

2A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp

2B DLCSpellTomes.esp

++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

2C VipCxj_HighHeels.esp

2D DLCThievesDen.esp

2E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]

** DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp

2F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

30 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]

31 Trade and Commerce.esp

32 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.21]

33 BDBS - Chapel Memorial.esp [Version 3.21]

34 BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.1.2]

35 GwedenBrothel.esp

36 GwedenExpansion.esp

37 JQ-AssassinQuest.esp

38 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

39 Kvatch Rebuilt - Oblivion XP Patch.esp

3A Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

** Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp

++ OldwolfLifeLikeStatues.esp

3B Steve - Thieves Guils HQ.esp [Version 1.2-SF.]

3C Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

3D DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

3E DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

3F DLCFrostcrag.esp

40 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp

41 Knights.esp

42 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]

** Knights Vwalk.esp

43 Better Dungeons.esp

** Better and realistic prices.esp

44 LoversFSE.esp

45 LoversGalgatBlackmail.esp

46 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90]

47 LoversMB2.esp

48 LoversDarkLessons.esp

49 LoversCreature.esp

4A Quest Award Leveller.esp

++ Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp

++ Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

4B Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

4C Alternative Start for Better Cities Fix.esp

4D IThieveryRaise.esp

++ MagesGuildSkillRewards.esp

4E Oblivion XP.esp

++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]

++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76]

++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76]

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp

++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

4F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp

50 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

51 MbpGirlBreton.esp

52 MbpGirlKhajiit.esp

53 MbpGirlNord.esp

54 MbpGirlAltmer.esp

55 MbpGirlBosmer.esp

56 MbpGirlRed.esp

57 MbpGirlImp.esp

58 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]

59 Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp

++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]

5A Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.1.7]

5B Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]

5C Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.1.8]

** Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp

5D Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 4.9.5]

5E Better Clocks for Better Cities 2_0.esp

5F Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]

60 Better Clocks T&C compatability patch.esp

++ kuerteeDetectLifeEffect.esp

61 kuerteeNightEyeShader.esp

** Sensual Walks.esp

** Sensual Walks SI.esp

** Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp

++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.34]

62 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

63 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

64 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

65 DynamicLeveledLists.esp

 

 

[gregathit]

Meng Yi,

 

You need to do a couple of things:

 

1. Drop xeosp++.esp and xeosp++ Vwalk.esp to just under your bashed patch.

2. Rebuild your bashed patch without Xeo inside it.

3. Lastly I would move DynamicLeveledLists.esp just above LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp but below the Xeo files you are moving down just to make sure it does not interfere with lovers. This one is optional and won't help or hurt your eye problems.

 

As always, remember to start a new game after making load order adjustments to check that what you have down is working correctly. If it is working in a new game then you can try cleaning your existing save to see if you can salvage it.

 

Edit: Example Summary of above for your load order:

bashed patch.esp

xeosp++.esp

xeosp++ Vwalk.esp

DynamicLeveledLists.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

[Meng Yi]

It worked i don't have the eye problem anymore, thanks a lot for your help.

 

But i can't move DynamicLeveledLists.esp above LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp cause tes4lodgen requires to have DynamicLeveledLists.esp at the very bottom of my load order

[gregathit]

It worked i don't have the eye problem anymore' date=' thanks a lot for your help.

 

But i can't move DynamicLeveledLists.esp above LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp cause tes4lodgen requires to have DynamicLeveledLists.esp at the very bottom of my load order

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No problem, that was optional. If lovers functions fine then don't worry about it.

 

Have Fun

Greg