Plagued by Random CTDs

SenReality · July 20, 2016

Now, I've been holding off making this thread for obvious reasons - I don't want to make another rinse and repeat thread.

As such ... spent the better half of my time off trying to figure out what in all hells is causing me to have this frustrating issue? it's merely 'random CTDs' that occur primarily in the exterior cell, well guess thats the entire world! I've gone through so many troubleshooting methods, even to the point of uninstalling mods one by one, but ... I have about 120+ mods ... primarily armor mods, I love me some armor! so I don't really have that many mods which are that script heavy, not to my knowledge at-least ( Besides SexLab of course which I've eradicated from existence so many times, I'm just left with this depressing taste in my mouth ... do hope the puns for this will be good. )

But yes, I've recently returned to the whole TES scene, used to be an active member on these forums, creating mods this, preset that! for Oblivion and then Fallout NV. So, thought I'd be all dandy ya know? but NO! ... I really don't remember having this much trouble when I first played Skyrim with mods!

So without delay! my load order. If someone could just help me out a little bit in determining just whats causing these random CTDs, you'd be my savour!

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

Campfire.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Extended Slider Colors.esp=1

[KijikoHair_MalePack].esp=1

numenume femalebrows MARO.esp=1

SGHairPackAIO.esp=1

Eyes of Aber.esp=1

SGHair33x144.esp=1

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp=1

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp=1

Tembtra Thief Armor.esp=1

WildHuntress.esp=1

Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp=1

Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp=1

AncientDraugr.esp=1

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1

The Ningheim.esp=1

Daedric Extra Armor.esp=1

Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp=1

Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp=1

CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp=1

RealisticRoomRental.esp=1

Redguard I.esp=1

Celes Nightingale Armor.esp=1

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp=1

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1

RealShelter.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1

KKFur.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

Frostfall.esp=1

DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp=1

Ursine Armor Pack.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1

KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp=1

12FemaleBrows.esp=1

KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1

Dr_Bandolier.esp=1

Merta Assassin Armor.esp=1

Dr_BandolierDG.esp=1

UIExtensions.esp=1

AddItemMenu2.esp=1

Ballet Boots.esp=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

LovelyHairstylesCE.esp=1

TrueEyes.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1

FNIS.esp=1

FNIS_PCEA2.esp=1

Remodeled Armor.esp=1

Shiny Catsuits.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1

ElementalArrows.esp=1

DwarvenAmputeeKit.esp=1

Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1

RSPatch.esp=1

CampfireKExt.esp=1

alesCampBedrollsSupplies.esp=1

ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1

SlaveTats.esp=1

KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp=1

KKSDrBWeightFix.esp=1

DHuntress.esp=1

FullBootForKKSA.esp=1

FlameAtronachArmor.esp=1

Brows.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

XPMSE.esp=1

SOSRaceMenu.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

2Dimm · July 20, 2016

totally not related to help your ctd problem but... you really should start using mod organizer

now, notice if the ctd happens near especific npcs or places, if one time your ctd in a place and you try to go there again later and it dont ctd, it may be a memory problem
do you use enboost or the skse thing?

SenReality · July 20, 2016

totally not related to help your ctd problem but... you really should start using mod organizer

now, notice if the ctd happens near especific npcs or places, if one time your ctd in a place and you try to go there again later and it dont ctd, it may be a memory problem

do you use enboost or the skse thing?

Oh, I've already found me a lovely little 'run' to see if I've fixed the CTD or not, its simply running past the mead place infront of whiterun. As for Mod Organizer, I use NMM and yes, I also use enboost and have edited the skse.ini ( First things I did when I redownloaded skyrim actually. )

Comrade Isbariya · July 20, 2016

*Points at signature* Ever tried the memory allocate thingy? It got rid of the random CTDs for me completely.

SenReality · July 20, 2016

*Points at signature* Ever tried the memory allocate thingy? It got rid of the random CTDs for me completely.

Yes, I've tried them - but to no avail.

As for when it crashes, its literally right after the meadry before whiterun, before that giant the companions fight, it CTD's without fail just after running past the Meadry and, I don't really have anything thats screwed with whiterun, or that area.

Updated load order

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SGHairPackBase.esm

7 7 ApachiiHair.esm

8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm

9 9 RaceCompatibility.esm

10 a HighResTexturePack01.esp

11 b HighResTexturePack02.esp

12 c HighResTexturePack03.esp

13 d Extended Slider Colors.esp

14 e [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp

15 f numenume femalebrows MARO.esp

16 10 SGHairPackAIO.esp

17 11 Eyes of Aber.esp

18 12 SGHair33x144.esp

19 13 KS Hairdo's.esp

20 14 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

21 15 12FemaleBrows.esp

22 16 Brows.esp

23 17 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp

24 18 TrueEyes.esp

25 19 The Ningheim.esp

26 1a Redguard I.esp

27 1b Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

28 1c Immersive Weapons.esp

29 1d aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

30 1e Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp

31 1f Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp

32 20 DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp

33 21 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

34 22 Celes Nightingale Armor.esp

35 23 KKFur.esp

36 24 Tembtra Thief Armor.esp

37 25 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp

38 26 AncientDraugr.esp

39 27 Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp

40 28 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp

41 29 Daedric Extra Armor.esp

42 2a WildHuntress.esp

43 2b DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp

44 2c Ursine Armor Pack.esp

45 2d Merta Assassin Armor.esp

46 2e Shiny Catsuits.esp

47 2f Dr_BandolierDG.esp

48 30 Ballet Boots.esp

49 31 DwarvenAmputeeKit.esp

50 32 ScarletDawnArmor.esp

51 33 KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp

52 34 KKSDrBWeightFix.esp

53 35 DHuntress.esp

54 36 FullBootForKKSA.esp

55 37 FlameAtronachArmor.esp

56 38 Remodeled Armor.esp

57 39 KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp

58 3a Dr_Bandolier.esp

59 3b UIExtensions.esp

60 3c AddItemMenu2.esp

61 3d SkyUI.esp

62 3e RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

63 3f FNIS.esp

64 40 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

65 41 FNISspells.esp

66 42 ElementalArrows.esp

67 43 Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp

68 44 WetandCold.esp

69 45 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

70 46 SlaveTats.esp

71 47 RaceMenu.esp

72 48 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

73 49 Better Vampires.esp

74 4a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

75 4b XPMSE.esp

76 4c WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

77 4d Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

78 4e Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

79 4f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

80 50 Dual Sheath Redux.esp

81 51 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

SenReality · July 20, 2016

Ehhh, just ... do a fresh install an reinstall a few mods at a time.

July 20, 2016

Do you have windows 10 do you use an enb?

If you have windows 10 and an ENB

1.) Download VRamSizeTest

2.) Run the tool VRamSizeDX9 (If you're running windows 10 this will only get too 4069)

Find your Enblocal.ini and make sure these are set too these values if the above is true

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=false

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=512 ; You could try 256 if you're getting CTD's

VideoMemorySizeMb=4064

EnableCompression=false

AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

[THREADS] ; With these options on it will cause less crashes stability with a big cost to stutter or performance its a trade i recommend them off.

DataSyncMode=0

PriorityMode=0

EnableUnsafeFixes=false

[FIX]

FixGameBugs=true

FixParallaxBugs=true

FixParallaxTerrain=false

FixAliasedTextures=false

IgnoreInventory=true

FixTintGamma=true

RemoveBlur=false

FixSubSurfaceScattering=true

FixSkyReflection=true

FixCursorVisibility=true

FixLag=false

Configuring SKSE's INI:

Edit you SKSE.ini in "Skyrim folder"\Data\SKSE (create it if you don't have one) :

[Display]
;fix for problem with overlay texture like tattoo
iTintTextureResolution=2048 ;recommend 1024

[General]
;Skse try to clean unused script, can't harm anything
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
;show missing esp when you try to load a save
EnableDiagnostics=1

Configuring Crash fixes by meh321

This fix replace completely SSME and SKSE Memory patch, and improve drastically how skyrim manage memory.
Thank you is not enough for this amazing tweaks, please don't forget to endorse this mod.

First extract SKSE Plugin Preloader, copy d3dx9_42.dll in your skyrim folder (where you found TESV.exe).
Then Install Crash fixes by meh321 as usual SKSE plugin
Check if you have a file named named "CrashFixPlugin_preload.txt" in Data\SKSE\Plugings (beside CrashFixPlugin.ini and CrashFixPlugin.dll), if not, create it.
Open CrashFixPlugin.ini, and set UseOSAllocators to 1
That's all

Notice:
UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing when touching sliders in character creation or otherwise :

Set AlignHeapAllocate=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini, downside is increased load time and increased memory usage. (Setting that I suggest by default)
NetImmerse Override is well known to have problem too, it you use it, replace it by racemenu.

UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing on game startup or loading save or shortly after:

For more information try this guide I was having troubles last night followed this guide and now my game runs smoothly.

SenReality · July 21, 2016

Do you have windows 10 do you use an enb?

If you have windows 10 and an ENB

1.) Download VRamSizeTest

2.) Run the tool VRamSizeDX9 (If you're running windows 10 this will only get too 4069)

Find your Enblocal.ini and make sure these are set too these values if the above is true

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=false

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=512 ; You could try 256 if you're getting CTD's

VideoMemorySizeMb=4064

EnableCompression=false

AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

[THREADS] ; With these options on it will cause less crashes stability with a big cost to stutter or performance its a trade i recommend them off.

DataSyncMode=0

PriorityMode=0

EnableUnsafeFixes=false

[FIX]

FixGameBugs=true

FixParallaxBugs=true

FixParallaxTerrain=false

FixAliasedTextures=false

IgnoreInventory=true

FixTintGamma=true

RemoveBlur=false

FixSubSurfaceScattering=true

FixSkyReflection=true

FixCursorVisibility=true

FixLag=false

Configuring SKSE's INI:

Edit you SKSE.ini in "Skyrim folder"\Data\SKSE (create it if you don't have one) :

[Display]

;fix for problem with overlay texture like tattoo

iTintTextureResolution=2048 ;recommend 1024

[General]

;Skse try to clean unused script, can't harm anything

ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

;show missing esp when you try to load a save

EnableDiagnostics=1

Configuring Crash fixes by meh321

This fix replace completely SSME and SKSE Memory patch, and improve drastically how skyrim manage memory.

Thank you is not enough for this amazing tweaks, please don't forget to endorse this mod.

First extract SKSE Plugin Preloader, copy d3dx9_42.dll in your skyrim folder (where you found TESV.exe).

Then Install Crash fixes by meh321 as usual SKSE plugin

Check if you have a file named named "CrashFixPlugin_preload.txt" in Data\SKSE\Plugings (beside CrashFixPlugin.ini and CrashFixPlugin.dll), if not, create it.

Open CrashFixPlugin.ini, and set UseOSAllocators to 1

That's all

Notice:

UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing when touching sliders in character creation or otherwise :

Set AlignHeapAllocate=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini, downside is increased load time and increased memory usage. (Setting that I suggest by default)

NetImmerse Override is well known to have problem too, it you use it, replace it by racemenu.

UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing on game startup or loading save or shortly after:

For more information try this guide I was having troubles last night followed this guide and now my game runs smoothly.

Thank you so much for the help, all of you! while I did do a complete reinstall, the problem persisted and now, thanks to this I am now capable of enjoying my time with Skyrim and ... uh, sexlab ... perhaps (whistles)

So again, thank you! I had done the SKSE ini edits and the like, but following the rest of the guide that you linked, I too now have an extremely smooth experience, even with 90-100 mods! ahh lovely Skyrims 60fps, be it my 1080 is overkill for this. But regardless! it allowed me to produce this lovely screenshot

July 21, 2016

you're welcome we mod until we break our games we fix them and then we do it all over again

SenReality · July 23, 2016

you're welcome we mod until we break our games we fix them and then we do it all over again

Such is the lovely life of being a PC Gamer~ =D

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