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Hello!

 

The issue i'm having is with any XML and Body meshes that I'm using, the collision is glitching, sometimes not working the fingers clip into the breasts during sexy idle animation 1 and 2 ( didn't test with any other animations) also sometimes the right breast is glitching downwards and refuses to go down untill i jump or move, then it happens again..

 

The mods i'm using are:

 

Elin 1(with TBBP support), with http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59416/? both XML and Body meshes

 

XP32 skeleton

 

Sexy idle animations either 1 or 2

 

Yes, I do have the the requairements for HDT and XP32 skeleton.

 

Also when i try to link the XML to Elin's 1 TBBP supportive meshes, It doesn't work for some reason so i have to use Bounce and Jiggle's body meshes or anyothers.

 

If someone can look into this problem and solve it so it can look somewhere near that : LINK It'd be very appriciated.

If needed any other information or a video which shows the problem, lemme know.

Posted

Can you send your body mesh and xml files? That way I can check them out to see what is wrong.

 

I included 3 XMLs which i tried

 

And 3 Meshes which i tried (The Elin meshes are the ones i can't link the XMLs with.)

MY XML+Body.rar

Posted

Have you created a new HDT body using the Elin bodyslide presets?  That is what I have been using.

 

Here is short vid showing the animation and collision working with my Elin.  I'm guessing this isn't happening in your game.

 

 

 

TESV 2016-06-24 15-00-26-57.7z

 

Mods

Elin v2

Elin BBP/TBBP/ body replacer

Bodyslide preset = HDT Curvy Elin

HDT Bounce and Jiggle + HDT PE

Newmiller's Vampire Cuirass converted to the HDT Elin body

 

 

 

Posted

Have you created a new HDT body using the Elin bodyslide presets?  That is what I have been using.

 

Here is short vid showing the animation and collision working with my Elin.  I'm guessing this isn't happening in your game.

 

 

 

attachicon.gifTESV 2016-06-24 15-00-26-57.7z

 

Mods

Elin v2

Elin BBP/TBBP/ body replacer

Bodyslide preset = HDT Curvy Elin

HDT Bounce and Jiggle + HDT PE

Newmiller's Vampire Cuirass converted to the HDT Elin body

 

 

It sometimes does, and sometimes doesn't...

 

when i reset my game or changing hair(without having an HDT Hair it doesn't even work at all) or anything in race menu, it might just glitch or not work anymore.

 

Have you created a new HDT body using the Elin bodyslide presets?

 

No, I just tried adding the XML path to the Elin body replacer, and it didn't work so i had to use other body meshes.

I did put the presets in the Bodyslide folder tho.

Posted

When I was testing, I only had sexy idle installed along with HDT-PE and the XMLs for the HDT hairs, Elin ears and tails, and HDT Bounce and Jiggle.

 

Do you have anything else (animations and/or HDT xml files) besides what I mentioned?

Posted

When I was testing, I only had sexy idle installed along with HDT-PE and the XMLs for the HDT hairs, Elin ears and tails, and HDT Bounce and Jiggle.

 

Do you have anything else (animations and/or HDT xml files) besides what I mentioned?

Race menu and i am using Bounce and Jiggle Body Meshes which i putted in the BBP TBBP Elin's mehses fix folder ( cause as i said the Elin's fix meshes doesn't work even tho am linking the XML correcly.)

Posted

I didn't link any XML to the Elin body.  Is linking the only way you can get it to work to any degree?

Without that the Collision isn't working for me, but jiggle does.

 

The only way for the collision to work for me even if it works aweful, is to use Bounce and Jiggle body meshes instead of the elin's fixed ones.

Posted

Give me a moment and I'll send you the files I have.

 

 

EDIT

I packaged the Elin HDT body (with textures), HDT-PE with mem fix, SKSE mem fix, HDT Bounce and Jiggle XML and Elin HDT ears/tail XML files.

 

Move the contents of your SKSE folder and Elin BBP/TBBP body folder to a backup location and make sure you only have the Sexy Idle animations installed before installing my files.  Do not remove the main race files, I'm only uploading the body and HDT files from my game.

 

If everything is working, systematically add the backup files, animations first, and see if anything breaks.  If the problem you have been experiencing returns then it's something from the backup files that is the cause.

 

ElinRace HDT Body-w-Collision.7z

Posted

Give me a moment and I'll send you the files I have.

 

 

EDIT

I packaged the Elin HDT body (with textures), HDT-PE with mem fix, SKSE mem fix, HDT Bounce and Jiggle XML and Elin HDT ears/tail XML files.

 

Move the contents of your SKSE folder and Elin BBP/TBBP body folder to a backup location and make sure you only have the Sexy Idle animations installed before installing my files.  Do not remove the main race files, I'm only uploading the body and HDT files from my game.

 

If everything is working, systematically add the backup files, animations first, and see if anything breaks.  If the problem you have been experiencing returns then it's something from the backup files that is the cause.

 

attachicon.gifElinRace HDT Body-w-Collision.7z

I'll test it in abit, and update here, thanks.

Posted

Give me a moment and I'll send you the files I have.

 

 

EDIT

I packaged the Elin HDT body (with textures), HDT-PE with mem fix, SKSE mem fix, HDT Bounce and Jiggle XML and Elin HDT ears/tail XML files.

 

Move the contents of your SKSE folder and Elin BBP/TBBP body folder to a backup location and make sure you only have the Sexy Idle animations installed before installing my files.  Do not remove the main race files, I'm only uploading the body and HDT files from my game.

 

If everything is working, systematically add the backup files, animations first, and see if anything breaks.  If the problem you have been experiencing returns then it's something from the backup files that is the cause.

 

attachicon.gifElinRace HDT Body-w-Collision.7z

Okay i did manage to make it work nicely now.

 

I'm using other HDT meshes not the Elin ones, cause HDT has 2 bones while TBBP has only 1.

 

I also managed to figure out why it was glitching so much, and it was indeed the HDT hairs (or opening up Racemenu) probably need to edit the XML or smthing.

 

I made a short video to show you how the collision works now with an armor:

Working Collision.rar

Posted

 

 

Give me a moment and I'll send you the files I have.

 

 

EDIT

I packaged the Elin HDT body (with textures), HDT-PE with mem fix, SKSE mem fix, HDT Bounce and Jiggle XML and Elin HDT ears/tail XML files.

 

Move the contents of your SKSE folder and Elin BBP/TBBP body folder to a backup location and make sure you only have the Sexy Idle animations installed before installing my files.  Do not remove the main race files, I'm only uploading the body and HDT files from my game.

 

If everything is working, systematically add the backup files, animations first, and see if anything breaks.  If the problem you have been experiencing returns then it's something from the backup files that is the cause.

 

attachicon.gifElinRace HDT Body-w-Collision.7z

 

 

Okay i did manage to make it work nicely now.

 

I'm using other HDT meshes not the Elin ones, cause HDT has 2 bones while TBBP has only 1.

 

I also managed to figure out why it was glitching so much, and it was indeed the HDT hairs (or opening up Racemenu) probably need to edit the XML or smthing.

 

I made a short video to show you how the collision works now with an armor:

 

 

The body I sent you is not HDT?  It worked fine for me.  The HDT Elin body created with bodyslide, they don't work?

 

HDT hairs caused the body physics to become unstable?  Odd considering the vid I uploaded showed my Elin with HDT hair, although HDT Bounce and Jiggle does have patches for certain hairs.

 

I'll have to test the rest of the HDT Elin hairs.

 

 

UPDATE

Checked the hairs from the All-in-One HDT hairpack and I have consistent, positive results with the HDT KS hairs albeit some of the hairs with ponytails that drape over the right breast will cause it to become jerky when collision is triggered.  

Some of the other HDT hairs like Meridia cancels out the collision, but HDT Bounce and Jiggle has patches for Meridia and certain other HDT hairs.  

 

Collision does not work when using the traditional Elin hairs with and without the HDT ears.

 

 

UPDATE 2

On an unrelated subject, I noticed some of the hairs clipping into the head, I thought I fixed that.   :angry:

Posted

 

 

 

Give me a moment and I'll send you the files I have.

 

 

EDIT

I packaged the Elin HDT body (with textures), HDT-PE with mem fix, SKSE mem fix, HDT Bounce and Jiggle XML and Elin HDT ears/tail XML files.

 

Move the contents of your SKSE folder and Elin BBP/TBBP body folder to a backup location and make sure you only have the Sexy Idle animations installed before installing my files.  Do not remove the main race files, I'm only uploading the body and HDT files from my game.

 

If everything is working, systematically add the backup files, animations first, and see if anything breaks.  If the problem you have been experiencing returns then it's something from the backup files that is the cause.

 

attachicon.gifElinRace HDT Body-w-Collision.7z

 

 

Okay i did manage to make it work nicely now.

 

I'm using other HDT meshes not the Elin ones, cause HDT has 2 bones while TBBP has only 1.

 

I also managed to figure out why it was glitching so much, and it was indeed the HDT hairs (or opening up Racemenu) probably need to edit the XML or smthing.

 

I made a short video to show you how the collision works now with an armor:

 

 

The body I sent you is not HDT?  It worked fine for me.  The HDT Elin body created with bodyslide, they don't work?

 

HDT hairs caused the body physics to become unstable?  Odd considering the vid I uploaded showed my Elin with HDT hair, although HDT Bounce and Jiggle does have patches for certain hairs.

 

I'll have to test the rest of the HDT Elin hairs.

 

 

UPDATE

Checked the hairs from the All-in-One HDT hairpack and I have consistent, positive results with the HDT KS hairs albeit some of the hairs with ponytails that drape over the right breast will cause it to become jerky when collision is triggered.  

Some of the other HDT hairs like Meridia cancels out the collision, but HDT Bounce and Jiggle has patches for Meridia and certain other HDT hairs.  

 

Collision does not work when using the traditional Elin hairs with and without the HDT ears.

 

 

UPDATE 2

On an unrelated subject, I noticed some of the hairs clipping into the head, I thought I fixed that.   :angry:

 

1. If you're using Bounces and Jiggle's Body meshes, CT77 is HDT if i'm not mistaken, but the Elin's Fix body meshes themselves are TBBP.

 

2. I dunno why for me it oddly bugs out the collision of the breasts :o might be because the collision of the hair interrupts with it, which can be edited with JFF (editing the XML) but i'm not sure which options are what I'm still a newbie ^^" (you can make parts to collision or disable collision with other parts by editing it)

 

3. For me it doesn't clip, but only messes up with the breasts collision :\

 

I'll try testing it more and see if i can fix that too now, i hate when a problem leads to another one, i feel so unsatesfied even tho the collision is done nicely now >.<

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So I've finally decided to try HDT physics. All works fine except when the character comes to a halt. The breasts and buttock will 'flick' upwards quickly then return to normal state. I'm having a bit of trouble with the configuration of the xml. I've seen pictures of a sort of interface where others have modified variables. I only a few pages of code and cant find anything with weight...etc. (I know this sounds like a silly question).

 

How would I solve this? 

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