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Mariney

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So guys, Infinite loading screen simulator is doing it's job again. I've been able to fix this for a while with safety load, but it seems to fuck up after about a minute or 2. I can't load without it, I can't make any progress with it. I'm stuck. I need some help. I tried figuring this out.
I'm at Dimhollow crypt right now. I have a save file, I kill 3 skeletons and a vampire, I can loot them, no problem there, I got further through a door and there is another vampire there. Whenever I loot that vampire or open any menu there it crashes.
I also tried skipping said vampire, I didn't loot it, 2 deathhounds came, I looted them, crash. Right now I will try going further without looting or opening menus. Safety load is set to only work on loading. If you got any tips, please hit me. If you need further info, tell me. If you need my load order, It's sorted with loot, I don't know how to provide it, I think this problem isn't caused by the load order, another problem resulting in "different" kind of crashes did previously occur and I don't know if I fixed that or not but for some time it was OK.
The main problem here is the infinite loading or if possible a fix for Safety load. I also use SSME, doesn't help and Stable uGrids. I tried fiddling with the uGrids, nothing changes at all. Set to 9, tried, crashed, removed the lines in skyrim ini, loaded the previous save, it works, but still crashes afterwards.
Went further just to freeze. I will now try a new game.
Day 999: Still waiting for the loading screen to start a new game... smh I hate Skyrim more than ever.  

 

brandet

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Try these mods:

 

SKSE updated

SKSE ini: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51038/?

Mod Organizer (if you dont use yet): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1334/?

ENB Preset - Unbleak (Gaming): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24828/?

INI FILES (backup your files first): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75800/?

anti-crash (follow instructions): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/?

pre-cache killer: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33526/?

wrye bash (for patch only): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1840/?

 

""uninstall stable ugrids"" this mod is bad .... start a new game ugrids 5 (original).

 

With "MO" mod your game step by step ...

Mariney

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All right, that seems promising. I'm gonna start right away.  And what is this patch you mention with wrye bash? I used to use it, but it looked pretty damn useless to me.

Mariney

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I did everything and it still crashes. Apparently I was wrong about my mod list.  If anyone is interested, please take a look. I cleaned everything with TES5, sorted everything about 99999999 times with loot and MO's sorter so I am 100% sure that there is an incompatibility somewhere around here. I just don't know where. Everything worked fine until I installed some HDT mod compilation and sexlab, but I am not sure where I made the mistake and uninstalling 1 of those mods that I installed automatically breaks the rest.

  

  0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Dawnguard.esm
  3  3 HearthFires.esm
  4  4 Dragonborn.esm
  5  5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6 SGHairPackBase.esm
  7  7 ApachiiHair.esm
  8  8 Campfire.esm
  9  9 hdtHighHeel.esm
 10  a JSwords.esm
 11  b RaceCompatibility.esm
 12  c SexLab.esm
 13  d TERAArmors.esm
 14  e ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 15  f Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 16 10 HighResTexturePack01.esp
 17 11 HighResTexturePack02.esp
 18 12 HighResTexturePack03.esp
 19 13 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
 20 14 3DNPC.esp
 21 15 SGHairPackAIO.esp
 22 16 12FemaleBrows.esp
 23 17 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
 24 18 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
 25 19 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
 26 1a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 27 1b Tera Armor Level List.esp
 28 1c 1nivWICCloaks.esp
 29 1d ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp
 30 1e ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +75%.esp
 31 1f ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
 32 20 ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +75%.esp
 33 21 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 34 22 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
 35 23 Immersive Weapons.esp
       ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp
 36 24 ABT - Recover +10% Arrows and Bolts.esp
 37 25 ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp
 38 26 SkyUI.esp
 39 27 AchieveThat.esp
 40 28 Auriel's Divine Bow.esp
 41 29 BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
 42 2a Bikini-MTM.esp
 43 2b Billyro Swords.esp
 44 2c Black Viper's Will.esp
 45 2d WATER DG + DB.esp
 46 2e Stag'sRest.esp
 47 2f Bridge Farm Hearthfire version.esp
 48 30 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
 49 31 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
 50 32 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
       ABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp
 51 33 Dynamic Dialogue Followers.esp
 52 34 Immersive Patrols II.esp
 53 35 Dragon Falls Manor.esp
 54 36 Random Alternate Start.esp
 55 37 CompanionValfar.esp
 56 38 HothFollower.esp
 57 39 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
 58 3a Windmill_Shelter.esp
 59 3b Morning Fogs.esp
 60 3c AlchemistsHiddenValley.esp
 61 3d WATER Plants.esp
 62 3e Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 63 3f SOS - Shop.esp
 64 40 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 65 41 RiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp
 66 42 TemptressVixen.esp
 67 43 Argonian Access.esp
 68 44 Nordic Wanderer.esp
 69 45 A Month of Internet Depravity Weapon Pack.esp
 70 46 BTRH_Waifu.esp
 71 47 Bijin NPCs.esp
 72 48 Bijin Wives.esp
 73 49 BlackSacramentArmor.esp
 74 4a brawlbug-plugin.esp
 75 4b Brows.esp
 76 4c BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
 77 4d BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp
 78 4e DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp
 79 4f DragonBoneBikini.esp
 80 50 Sneak Tools.esp
 81 51 silverfish.esp
 82 52 AE_animation_ENG.esp
 83 53 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
 84 54 Crag.esp
 85 55 battleflute.esp
 86 56 Contractor Armor.esp
 87 57 LustmordVampireArmor.esp
 88 58 Revenant.esp
 89 59 Solvistapp.esp
 90 5a DynamicStealth.esp
 91 5b Callisto Sword.esp
 92 5c Cataract.esp
 93 5d Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
 94 5e Clanking Armor.esp
 95 5f WetandCold.esp
 96 60 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
 97 61 Convenient Horses.esp
 98 62 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
 99 63 Customizable Camera.esp
100 64 Daedric Reaper Armor.esp
101 65 Daemon.esp
102 66 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp
103 67 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
104 68 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
105 69 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
106 6a dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
107 6b dovahkiinrelax.esp
108 6c Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
109 6d DragonPriestMaskJournal.esp
110 6e DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
111 6f EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
112 70 ESPv1_1.esp
113 71 More Hair Colors Vanilla.esp
114 72 Extended Slider Colors.esp
115 73 FNIS.esp
116 74 Footprints.esp
117 75 GDZZJJDH.esp
118 76 GrandMaster.esp
119 77 Headtracking.esp
120 78 HN66_NAILS4ALL.esp
121 79 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
122 7a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
123 7b iHUD.esp
124 7c JaxonzDiagnostics.esp
125 7d JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
126 7e Jennifer.esp
127 7f Journal Vanilla Quest Names .esp
128 80 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
129 81 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
130 82 KS Hairdo's.esp
131 83 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
132 84 LayerBikini.esp
133 85 Leviathan.esp
134 86 Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp
135 87 LunariRace.esp
136 88 Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp
137 89 Mavari Armor.esp
138 8a Merta Assassin Armor.esp
139 8b Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
140 8c Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
141 8d Moniko.esp
142 8e Mordant.esp
143 8f Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
144 90 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
145 91 Northgirl.esp
146 92 NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp
147 93 Player Size Adjuster.esp
148 94 PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp
149 95 Pupetteer Master.esp
150 96 PuppetMaster.esp
151 97 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
152 98 RaceMenu.esp
153 99 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
154 9a RaceMenuPlugin.esp
155 9b Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp
156 9c RailLight.esp
157 9d RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp
158 9e Sand Scorpion.esp
159 9f Serana.esp
160 a0 SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
161 a1 SexLabMatchMaker.esp
162 a2 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
163 a3 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
164 a4 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
165 a5 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
166 a6 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
167 a7 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
168 a8 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
169 a9 SOSRaceMenu.esp
170 aa Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp
171 ab Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
172 ac Supreme Fog.esp
173 ad Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
174 ae The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
175 af TheCoenaculiUNP.esp
176 b0 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
177 b1 Toccata.esp
178 b2 UIExtensions.esp
179 b3 AddItemMenu.esp
180 b4 UNFU.esp
181 b5 Valerica.esp
182 b6 VioLens.esp
183 b7 vwrSprintJump.esp
184 b8 Wraith.esp
185 b9 bald hair.esp
186 ba Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
187 bb XPMSE.esp
188 bc SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
189 bd SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
190 be FNISspells.esp
191 bf RevampedExteriorFog.esp
192 c0 Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp
193 c1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
 
brandet

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There are many problems on your list ... see...

If you use mod organizer, xmpse has to be below all other mods on the left list.

HDT Physics Extensions (very important): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53996/?

HDT XMLs : http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22955-hdt-breast-for-all-tbbp-body-and-armor/

 

you use "AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp" but has a UFO patch "HothFollower UFO Patch.esp" (uncheck this esp).

 

(These files are duplicate, I think it should be only one of each marked, for exemple +50% or +75%)

 29 1d ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp
 30 1e ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +75%.esp
 31 1f ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
 32 20 ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +75%.esp
 36 24 ABT - Recover +10% Arrows and Bolts.esp
 37 25 ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp

 

(Apparently you do not have "SMIM" installed, then these files are useless)

162 a2 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
163 a3 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
164 a4 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
165 a5 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
166 a6 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp

57 39 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp

 

I gave up using "Enhanced Blood textures"

I think "EFF" better than "AFT" ......... http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12933/?

UNPB is the best body in my opinion ... http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37900/?

install the skeleton XPMSE always last.

"Fair Skin Complexion" ... use the version optimized for the correct body (UNP(B) or CBBE)

Aquatic plants are useless for the game, I even use this mod "http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/55240/?"

 

Loot again .. fnis again ... bash again ... and try again !!

 

I'll try to see more problems

brandet

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When you install this mod "Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof" , you have installed the SMIM version, but you do not have SMIM .... (Uninstall this mod, is useless for the game) ..

Mariney

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Ahh man even after I did all you told me to do I still get a crash while trying to start a new game. Such a shame, you did a really great explanation and I am very grateful for that. I don't know what could be causing this :( I have only 1 thing in mind, take a look at this mod. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2476-all-in-one-hdt-animated-pussy/  It started around when I installed this, but I also installed 10 other mods that this mod needed so I was kind of hoping it wouldn't be the problem lol. Also, where can I see when I have a reply on this forum? xD And since I wasn't quite sure which file to download about "Sharlikrans compatibility patches" I disabled Jaysus swords instead. Still didn't work. I did loot, bash and fnis, none of the mods required cleaning when I opened them in loot. The only thing I didn't change from what you told me was the enhanced blood mod. Why did you give up on it?

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Ahh man even after I did all you told me to do I still get a crash while trying to start a new game. Such a shame, you did a really great explanation and I am very grateful for that. I don't know what could be causing this :( I have only 1 thing in mind, take a look at this mod. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2476-all-in-one-hdt-animated-pussy/  It started around when I installed this, but I also installed 10 other mods that this mod needed so I was kind of hoping it wouldn't be the problem lol. Also, where can I see when I have a reply on this forum? xD And since I wasn't quite sure which file to download about "Sharlikrans compatibility patches" I disabled Jaysus swords instead. Still didn't work. I did loot, bash and fnis, none of the mods required cleaning when I opened them in loot. The only thing I didn't change from what you told me was the enhanced blood mod. Why did you give up on it?

the only requirements you really need for all in one HDT animated pussy are these ones

SKSE

FNIS

bodyslide

XPMSE

 

all the other ones are kinda optional

I recommend you just take

SOS

RaceMenu

SL framework

non-SL animations

 

most of these mods are required by a lot of other mods as well

and make sure you only select the boxes of the mods you have installed in the installer

you also have 193 mods, try to see if you can thin it down a bit, might help already

Tefajo

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brandet did a very good study of your mods! 

 

Just 1 thing i wanted to ask you: Your game crashes before reaching main menu? or you can get there fine but it crashes when trying to start / load a game?

Because if you do not even get to the menu then its most probably a missing master file

brandet

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"Animated pussy" is a very large mod and I do not have installed on my skyrim, but if does not have an esp file, it must be only texture (maybe 4k), meshes (maybe high poly) and skse script (maybe intense) ... in this case install this mod "http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/2006/?", and activate it ... then see if the memory exceeds 3,1gb while loading the new game before CTD ...

If yes, you need to reduce textures and scripts from mods ...

brandet

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Now, you have two mods with almost the same goal ... and can be very incompatible with animated pussy, changing the size of the bodies parts. (result: CTD when loading incompatible files, one breaks the other).

 

146 92 NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp"

147 93 Player Size Adjuster.esp

 

Mariney

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Now, you have two mods with almost the same goal ... and can be very incompatible with animated pussy, changing the size of the bodies parts. (result: CTD when loading incompatible files, one breaks the other).

 

146 92 NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp"

147 93 Player Size Adjuster.esp

That's weird. Player size ajduster helps you change your character's height, the other mod... I have no idea what it does lol. I will disable the other one and try.

"Animated pussy" is a very large mod and I do not have installed on my skyrim, but if does not have an esp file, it must be only texture (maybe 4k), meshes (maybe high poly) and skse script (maybe intense) ... in this case install this mod "http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/2006/?", and activate it ... then see if the memory exceeds 3,1gb while loading the new game before CTD ...

If yes, you need to reduce textures and scripts from mods ...

I was using Performance Monitor for that and I'm pretty sure that it doesn't exceed 3.1. Not while loading, not while it used to crash while playing. It also didn't reach my VRAM limit, but it was pretty close, max was only about 100 MB free.

brandet did a very good study of your mods! 

 

Just 1 thing i wanted to ask you: Your game crashes before reaching main menu? or you can get there fine but it crashes when trying to start / load a game?

Because if you do not even get to the menu then its most probably a missing master file

It crashes during the loading. I don't have missing masters. I once had a missing master and it displayed an error message, fixed that.

 

Ahh man even after I did all you told me to do I still get a crash while trying to start a new game. Such a shame, you did a really great explanation and I am very grateful for that. I don't know what could be causing this :( I have only 1 thing in mind, take a look at this mod. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2476-all-in-one-hdt-animated-pussy/  It started around when I installed this, but I also installed 10 other mods that this mod needed so I was kind of hoping it wouldn't be the problem lol. Also, where can I see when I have a reply on this forum? xD And since I wasn't quite sure which file to download about "Sharlikrans compatibility patches" I disabled Jaysus swords instead. Still didn't work. I did loot, bash and fnis, none of the mods required cleaning when I opened them in loot. The only thing I didn't change from what you told me was the enhanced blood mod. Why did you give up on it?

the only requirements you really need for all in one HDT animated pussy are these ones

SKSE

FNIS

bodyslide

XPMSE

 

all the other ones are kinda optional

I recommend you just take

SOS

RaceMenu

SL framework

non-SL animations

 

most of these mods are required by a lot of other mods as well

and make sure you only select the boxes of the mods you have installed in the installer

you also have 193 mods, try to see if you can thin it down a bit, might help already

 

Yes I didn't install all of them. I looked through the mods carefully to decide which mods I want and which mods I need to run them. It was going fine for a day or 2. A minimal raise in CTDs when doing certain actions.  

  

Disabled Random NPC body scale and still a crash at 1000 MB RAM and VRAM

Tefajo

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It crashes during the loading. I don't have missing masters. I once had a missing master and it displayed an error message, fixed that.

 

 

  

 

 

Ok, just checking i was understanding the situation

Infinite load screen should be fixed just by using SKSE, if you have it installed then i feel a bit clueless

Any useful information on your papyrus log?

brandet

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Try to run the original skyrim shortcut ... if crash too, you need reinstall Skyrim .... if not follow bellow...

So, I think best for you, create a new profile in "mod organizer" with only default game settings, remember that the load order on the left list is important too , then organize the mods by type !

 

First check the mods not related with sexlab, like armors, weapons, skse plugins, bugfixes, effects, builds, races, male body, female body and skeleton ...

Rrun loot (not sort in the MO) ... run fnis (create the mod from generated files, but dont check it yet ..) .. run wrye bash (rebuild the patch and create the mod from generated files) ... and now check the mods created from generated files from fnis and wrye bash ...

If continues to CTD, some mod can be corrupted and you need to find out which...

Try and tell me ...

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... hmm .. make sure when you run FNIS, the patches SKELETON arm fix, GENDER specific animations and dservants archery gameplay overhaul are checked !!

Make sure too your .Net framework 4, java and visual c++ is updated ...

Mariney

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You may just need a save cleaner to remove old scripts. I recommend getting Crash Fixes http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2551-crash-fixes/ and read before installing. It renders Safety Load moot as well.

 

Edit: Really sounds like you have way too many scripted mods tbh. Do you use ENB so if you do did you configure it to your computer's specs?

I didn't use ENB until brandet said I should. I did configure it, spent a long time just to make sure I don't do something wrong.

Whizkid

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use mod organise and start fresh, i.e. backup (rename skyrim to skyrimBACKUP) then re-install skyrim. 

next install MO and keep main skyrim directory clear of mods only stuff installed in skyrim is ENB if u are using it and skse nothing else should be there.

install all main mods that is needed into MO, stuff that u dont really need skip it

make sure u install crashfix and D3DX9 42 - Wrapper

 

it will save u time and effort then if u try and solve the problems u are having now u did say u ctd even when starting a new game...

Tefajo

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make sure u install crashfix and D3DX9 42 - Wrapper

 

 

 

what is d3dx9 42?

 

Wrapper binary ENB client is d3d9.dll

DX9 (directx9) is something entirely different

And if you meant d3d9_42.dll (SSME) as far as i know its no longer needed since SKSE already has memory patch

Whizkid

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make sure u install crashfix and D3DX9 42 - Wrapper

 

 

 

what is d3dx9 42?

 

Wrapper binary ENB client is d3d9.dll

DX9 (directx9) is something entirely different

And if you meant d3d9_42.dll (SSME) as far as i know its no longer needed since SKSE already has memory patch

 

its SKSE Plugin Preloader 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/?

Tefajo

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Ok, ty... but why load it?

 

By mod author:

Do I need this and is there any benefit to this?
No! You don't need this unless a mod specifically says you require this. There is no benefit to having this for no reason. At the time of writing this you only need it if you use Crash Fixes mod and UseOSAllocators=1 in the INI file. There is no other reason to use this at all. It allows the mod to make edit to game code before the game has any chance to run that code.

 

 

EDIT: NVM, just saw its a requirement for crashfixes

Mariney

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use mod organise and start fresh, i.e. backup (rename skyrim to skyrimBACKUP) then re-install skyrim. 

next install MO and keep main skyrim directory clear of mods only stuff installed in skyrim is ENB if u are using it and skse nothing else should be there.

install all main mods that is needed into MO, stuff that u dont really need skip it

make sure u install crashfix and D3DX9 42 - Wrapper

 

it will save u time and effort then if u try and solve the problems u are having now u did say u ctd even when starting a new game...

I did that. I'm about to start checking mods one by one, but I am too lazy right now.

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