allsunday Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Okay, this one has got me stumped. The bottom line is that I want to use Tamriel Reloaded HD. It's one of those rare texture packages that come with its own .esp to activate because it includes its own meshes. The problem is that the mod works just fine everywhere I go until I walk into a mine. Here's the issue in three easy to follow along steps: 1st picture is with Tamriel Reloaded HD .esp activated.Imgur 2nd picture is with Tamriel Reloaded HD .esp activated AND also the .dds file called minerockwall01iron removed from the Skyrim textures folder. Imgur Finally, the 3rd picture is with Tamriel Reloaded HD .esp turned off/unchecked in mod organizer. Imgur Again, I want to use Tamriel Reloaded HD because I really like it but the mines are obviously having an issue. I removed the textures in the second picture to give an idea of where the issue is isolated. I'm open to any suggestions. Even if you have a crazy idea, let me know. I've even gone and replaced the textures but it looks even worst. I've shuffled load order with TRHD already also. Right now, I'm currently in the process of finding said mesh (shown in second picture) and remove it to see what happens, it's just that I can't seem to be able to find said mesh even while comparing TRHD's original folder structure. Hope you all have a wonderful Saturday!EDIT: You might have to copy the link's address and paste it into a new tab for picture to show up. Don't know why.
RitualClarity Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Forgive the question... Have you brought up this error to the mod author(s) thread / sight? Might must be a glitch that they aren't aware of or a conflict that is occurring with another mod.
allsunday Posted May 28, 2016 Author Posted May 28, 2016 I did. No response from anyone and ever since Fallout 4 has been released there hasn't been many mod authors around to answer questions -- from what I noticed anyway. I thought I would try my luck with Loverslab. I've also checked on Reddit if anyone there could recognize the issue right off the bat. It would be really nice if someone who has Tamriel HD Reloaded could share a picture of what their mines look like. Actually, this mine in particular is Left Hand Mine right next to Markarth. Also, I tried using Tamriel Reloaded Interiors, but this mod doesn't even have a mesh folder so I can't imagine that it will include a texture to fix the problem I'm having. I guess there's really only two ways to solve this: 1. Get the correct texture for the mines because it's definitely not the right one. Or 2. Erase the mesh because the mines would be fine without it.
RitualClarity Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Good, excellent you covered your basis. I didn't realize it is part of Anatriax's tutorial. She tells thereader to use the Tamriel Reloaded HD main file 0-9b Full ofr NMM have you use that?Also did you get the 1k optional textures for 0.9b? http://nsfwmods.com/forums/topic/46-a-naughty-and-immersive-skyrim/ Currently she isn't active and would have been your best source to helpresolve this issue. Sorry that is about all I have Anyway your two options sound about right to resolve the issue to get back to playing if the above is used. At least until you can find a fix to the problem
allsunday Posted May 29, 2016 Author Posted May 29, 2016 Aha! Good looking out! It even says on the mod on Nexus that the 1k optional textures should be installed after the main... but, the fact that he says it's optional completely threw me off! Okay, let me try these textures. Damn, I hope this works. I'll let you know and then mark you as the one who solved this most significant dilemma! I was all set and ready to play Skyrim yesterday and as soon as I saw these textures in the mines, I went crazy trying to figure out how to fix them!
allsunday Posted May 29, 2016 Author Posted May 29, 2016 Good, excellent you covered your basis. I didn't realize it is part of Anatriax's tutorial. She tells thereader to use the Tamriel Reloaded HD main file 0-9b Full ofr NMM have you use that?Also did you get the 1k optional textures for 0.9b? http://nsfwmods.com/forums/topic/46-a-naughty-and-immersive-skyrim/ Currently she isn't active and would have been your best source to helpresolve this issue. Sorry that is about all I have Anyway your two options sound about right to resolve the issue to get back to playing if the above is used. At least until you can find a fix to the problem Nope. Good suggestion but unfortunately it didn't work. I installed this mod and overwrote everything -- well, except for plants because why would plant textures be used for cave walls -- and I also installed the mod manually (being sure to keep a backup of the original folder) and the cave still looks the same as the first photo I provided. No change whatsoever. I realized something! I forgot to look into SMIM and see if its meshes are the real culprit!
RitualClarity Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 I believe SMIM and this don't work well together and needed proper processing. Anatraix don't use those as it caused many problems and if I remembered our conversations the textures and such are covered with TR. Might want to upload a load order and mod list (if using MO) so that someone can also look over this and see if there are any issues. I'd be able to helpmore but I don't use the mod (other than the tutorial that was done)
allsunday Posted May 29, 2016 Author Posted May 29, 2016 Oh, you're right, we both already covered the fact that when TR is deactivated, the game looks fine. I can't post all of my mods because I install texture packs manually because it's the only best way to do so. If you really want to know, my rough guess is that it's about 500 mods Total. Anyway, I don't think it'll help but If you promise not to laugh, here's my load order. Godspeed. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 3 3 Dawnguard.esm 4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 5 5 HearthFires.esm 6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 7 7 Dragonborn.esm 8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 9 9 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 10 a Falskaar.esm 11 b Wyrmstooth.esp 12 c hdtHighHeel.esm 13 d MTC.esm 14 e FoxPalace_X.esm 15 f moonpath.esm 16 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 17 11 daymoyl.esm 18 12 HepsyHair.esm 19 13 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm 20 14 RaceCompatibility.esm 21 15 TERAArmors.esm 22 16 ApachiiHair.esm 23 17 Heels Sound.esm 24 18 Celestial-Hairstyles.esm 25 19 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 26 1a RSkyrimChildren.esm 27 1b SexLab.esm 28 1c SexLabAroused.esm 29 1d Brawl Bugs CE.esp 30 1e KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 31 1f KSWigs.esp 32 20 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 33 21 Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp 34 22 ETaC - Complete.esp 35 23 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 36 24 CLARALUX.esp 37 25 Helgen Reborn.esp 38 26 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 39 27 AOS.esp 40 28 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 41 29 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 42 2a Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 43 2b Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 44 2c Feminine Females.esp 45 2d Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 46 2e ELFXEnhancer.esp 47 2f CLARALUXify - ELFX Exteriors.esp 48 30 RealisticWaterTwoMerge.esp Includes: AOS2_RealisticWaterTwoPatch Drinking Fountains of Skyrim RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn RealisticWaterTwo - Falksaar RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary RealisticWaterTwo - Waves RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT 49 31 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 50 32 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 51 33 RealShelter.esp 52 34 ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp 53 35 Birdsofskyrim.esp 54 36 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 55 37 SkyUI.esp 56 38 HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp 57 39 Intense Difficulty 2x.esp 58 3a SexLabMatchMaker.esp 59 3b DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp 60 3c Footprints.esp 61 3d Footprints - Ash.esp 62 3e iHUD.esp 63 3f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 64 40 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 65 41 Infinity Blade Hero Set.esp 66 42 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp 67 43 MHeroesS2EP2Nighthowk.esp 68 44 nordicrangerarmor.esp 69 45 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 70 46 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 71 47 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 72 48 Immersive Weapons.esp 73 49 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 74 4a Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 75 4b AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 76 4c SkyMoMod.esp 77 4d TreaclemanMoonpathPatch.esp 78 4e ELFX - Weathers.esp 79 4f Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 80 50 Blackout_Skyrim.esp 81 51 Run For Your Lives.esp 82 52 Cloaks.esp 83 53 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 84 54 Immersive Solstheim.esp 85 55 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 86 56 moonpath_questdata.esp 87 57 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 88 58 RealisticDiseasesMerge.esp Includes: RND_Dawnguard-Patch RND_Dragonborn-Patch RND_HearthFires-Patch RND_USKP-Patch 89 59 Lanterns Of Skyrim - Bridges x2 - OnOff_bright.esp 90 5a Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp 91 5b JackGaMonsterAddon.esp 92 5c MusicMerge_NR.esp 93 5d SolsticeCastle.esp 94 5e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 95 5f BikiniArmors.esp] Includes: BandedIronBikini.esp BladesBikini.esp DragonBoneBikini.esp FalmerBikini.esp Notverigud Nordic Carved Bikini.esp SteelBikini.esp SteelPlateBikini.esp WolfBikini.esp 96 60 DeadlyDragons.esp 97 61 Gender Animation Fix.esp 98 62 ETaC - Complete Helgen Reborn Patch.esp 99 63 WATER Plants.esp 100 64 SexLabDefeat.esp 101 65 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 102 66 PilgrimsDelight.esp 103 67 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 104 68 BodyslideCBBEArmor.esp Includes: AgehaArmor.esp BBD_AngelVixenArmor.esp CrimsonTwilighArmor.esp EroSeleneArmor.esp ForbiddenEbonyArmor.esp fox46 Armor.esp fox48 Armor.esp FullMetalBikini.esp LayerBikini.esp Silverlight Armor.esp stalkerarmor.esp thronearmor.esp TsuntsunArmor7b.esp whiterunqueenarmor.esp Witch Of The Wild.esp wjunlady.esp 105 69 BAMM.esp 106 6a Gehenoth.esp 107 6b Convenient Horses.esp 108 6c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 109 6d LoversComfort.esp 110 6e FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 111 6f Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp 112 70 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 113 71 Tongueswcript.esp 114 72 Blade & Soul Armor Pack GT Balanced.esp 115 73 Gildergreen Regrown.esp 116 74 Equipping Overhaul.esp 117 75 BlackSacramentArmor.esp 118 76 BodyslideCBBEArmor2.esp Includes: AlynShirArmor.esp Armor Depravity Chsbhc V3 T.esp Blackheart.esp Bless_Tinuviel.esp CBBE Heels Collection.esp Crimson Assassin Bodysuit.esp Custom Clothes for Pandora.esp DEM Ritual.esp Dynasty Armor.esp Edhildils Deathscream Armor with HH.esp Gatt12Jewelry.esp KaraByNausicaa.esp KomRoseButt.esp Lady Draak.esp LB Lady Chaos.esp MQHArmorStAl.esp NewVampChainsCuirass.esp Osare Culort Outfit.esp XXYoulanHH.esp 119 77 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 120 78 LycHairstyler.esp 121 79 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 122 7a CharmingHighHeels.esp 123 7b BulwarkRugFix.esp 124 7c AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 125 7d HHairstyles.esp 126 7e [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp 127 7f SexLabNudesuitVariants.esp 128 80 MTC_LightVersion.esp 129 81 Skyrim Realistic Archery.esp 130 82 Unique Uniques.esp 131 83 AurielsBowEnhanced.esp 132 84 hellishslasher1h.esp 133 85 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp 134 86 iActivate.esp 135 87 TreaclemanFalskaarPatch.esp 136 88 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 137 89 RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 138 8a RaceMenu.esp 139 8b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 140 8c blessarmors.esp 141 8d Dragon Stalking Fix.esp 142 8e Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp 143 8f CharacterMakingExtender.esp 144 90 USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp 145 91 NormalVampireFaces.esp 146 92 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp 147 93 FNISSexyMove.esp 148 94 XPMSE.esp 149 95 SLAnimLoader.esp 150 96 SLALAnimObj.esp 151 97 UIExtensions.esp 152 98 SexLabTools.esp 153 99 BladeAndSoulArmor.esp Includes: BnS Red Bird Outfit.esp XXFenghuaZMHH.esp XXfenghuosuiyueHH.esp XXheijunHH.esp XXheitianzhaoHH.esp XXhonghuahuiHH.esp XXhuawuhen.esp XXjingangHH.esp XXrenzuneiyiHH.esp XXsisheHH.esp XXXqinglangHH.esp 154 9a LeftHandRings.esp 155 9b JaxonzNameGen.esp 156 9c imp_helm_legend.esp 157 9d Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 158 9e Schwertleite Set.esp 159 9f LivelyLovelyScreenie.esp 160 a0 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp 161 a1 K9Armor.esp 162 a2 SamuraiBladesArmor.esp 163 a3 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 164 a4 Locational Damage.esp 165 a5 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 166 a6 SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp 167 a7 Hawke Armor.esp 168 a8 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 169 a9 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 170 aa Moss Rocks.esp 171 ab RevampedExteriorFog.esp 172 ac Newhairpack.esp 173 ad mortenhairs.esp 174 ae stop-being-a-creepy-stalker-aerin-1-0-pingy.esp 175 af SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp 176 b0 TERAArmors_CBBE.esp 177 b1 No_stretching.esp 178 b2 KS Hairdo's.esp 179 b3 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 180 b4 Serana.esp 181 b5 Serana No Hood.esp 182 b6 QuickLight.esp 183 b7 RSPatch.esp 184 b8 SplashofRain.esp 185 b9 SimplyKnock.esp 186 ba DanceTogether.esp 187 bb NusbieVoices.esp 188 bc Dual Sheath Redux.esp 189 bd WondersofWeather.esp 190 be VioLens.esp 191 bf Patch - Falskaar - RS kids.esp 192 c0 Patch - Wyrm - RS kids.esp 193 c1 HousecarlWhiterun.esp 194 c2 Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp 195 c3 FNIS EIS - Oden.esp 196 c4 LydiaPrettyFace.esp 197 c5 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 198 c6 DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp 199 c7 My Home Is Your Home.esp 200 c8 GoToBed.esp 201 c9 Angelina Jolie.esp 202 ca CazyMale.esp 203 cb Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp 204 cc Blackout_Dawnguard.esp 205 cd Brows.esp 206 ce BijinCorrection.esp Includes: Adelaisa.esp BW Delphine.esp BW Iona.esp BW Jenassa.esp Rayya.esp Uthgerd.esp 207 cf AelaStandalone - Mature.esp 208 d0 Luxury Collection.esp 209 d1 Luxury Collection Crafting.esp 210 d2 FalskaarRNDPatch.esp 211 d3 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp 212 d4 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 213 d5 Vividian - Extended Weathers.esp 214 d6 ERF - Succubus.esp 215 d7 Terapack2015.esp 216 d8 GECK.O_Skyrim_MoreMales.esp 217 d9 AddItemMenu.esp 218 da augusta.esp 219 db aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 220 dc AOS2_WAF Patch.esp 221 dd Notverigud Nordic Carved Bikini.esp 222 de WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp 223 df ELFX - Moonpath.esp 224 e0 RND_ETaC-Patch.esp 225 e1 ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp 226 e2 0SACT.esp 227 e3 FNIS - Shocky Creature Sex Poses.esp.esp 228 e4 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 229 e5 GPPoses.esp 230 e6 Bijin NPCs.esp 231 e7 BodyslideCBBEArmor3.esp Includes: ADEC Stormcloak.esp ChaPi Clothing.esp DEM Collection.esp Dread.esp EbonyValkyrie.esp Egyptsibyl.esp Ehildils Mithril Armors.esp GDZZJJDH.esp IcyV Crystalia.esp Lady Elegance.esp Lady of Death.esp lrq_af0001.esp Merta Black Rose Armor.esp Osare Part Armor.esp Priestess Of Dibella Armor.esp R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp VindictusMixRobes.esp 232 e8 Dead Body Collision.esp 233 e9 HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp 234 ea Draugr Marauder Light Armors combined.esp 235 eb JaxonzEnhGrab.esp 236 ec CLARALUXify - Falskaar.esp 237 ed CLARALUXify - Wyrmstooth.esp 238 ee Vivid Landscapes.esp 239 ef Blade and Soul Infernal Armor.esp 240 f0 Better Dynamic Snow.esp 241 f1 RSChildren - Complete.esp 242 f2 RSChildren_V.esp 243 f3 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp 244 f4 ShakeIt!.esp 245 f5 ShakeItSomeMore!.esp 246 f6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 247 f7 ETaC - Complete AS-LAL Patch.esp 248 f8 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 249 f9 Armor and Clothing for RSChildren - Playable Override + All DLC Patches.esp 250 fa Bijin Wives.esp 251 fb Vampire Skin Color Fix.esp 252 fc SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
RitualClarity Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 You sir or ma'm are likely running into the max texture/ esm/esm issue. You have too much running to be able to have the mod work properly. (possible issue) Not sure but with the regular mods and add the heavy texture mods you are likely running out of vram/ram. One way to test to be sure is to remove a large portion of the mods (at least half or more) and then run TR. Just like you set it up now. If it works then it might be too many mods running or could be a conflict. Then add a small set of mods (one mod and its requirements) from the most needed to least and keep doing that until it cuts out. Dial back and see if it works alternate a mod or two tobe sure it wasn't a conflict and then you will have a firm grasp on the issue if it is a conflict or you just blowing out your game with mods. Lots of work but you should get the answer. If the same results occur with little or no mods installed then it is what you are doing to install the mods missing requirement or something. Mod Organizer makes this much easier. Pick up some clean saves from Nexus and just jump in and out of the game running just one or a small set of mods to be sure all works then start combining them into a profile from most needed to least and you can do a pretty good job at getting what you need.Yes I see you combined a few mods which is fine and will allow you to add more and more than just plain mod user but even then there is a number of records (and textures) that can run in a single game. Also are you running on Windows 10 (maybe 8)? If so there is a Vram restriction if you have 4+ gig on your Video card you can't use it. Windows 7 you can access all if the vram.
allsunday Posted May 29, 2016 Author Posted May 29, 2016 Hohoho... simply not true, my good Sir. Skyrim does not decide it doesn't want to load textures because you ran out of VRAM, it simply loads them slower. My game runs perfectly fine at 40-45 fps outdoors and 60fps constant indoors. Love it! Can't wait for the GTX 1080ti. Usually the amount of mods one has does not translate into texture issues but into CTDs and stuttering and since I don't experience any of that, I don't see any cause for concern. Plus, we already settled the fact that if TR is disabled, my game textures are fixed! But I don't want to disable TR.Anyway, I have good news and bad news. First the bad news, I found the answer to the bad textures in the mines, it's specifically related to Tamriel Reloaded because... the good news: the problem with the mine textures are found nowhere else in Skyrim! Only Left Hand Mine near Markarth.I didn't even think to check. I never go inside mines and just now I went inside 4 different ones from all over Skyrim and none of them have the problem! Of course, I could always check more mines, but I think this is enough proof that the problem is DIRECTLY related to Tamriel Reloaded HD. This is still only theory at the moment, but it's the best one right now. Here's an in-game picture of Riverwood I took while running around diagnosing TR textures:
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