Male skeleton?

[Phelps1247]

http://postimage.org/image/t3twzga57/full/

So that's happening during sex. I assume it's a skeleton problem as with the female equalivent.

 

Not sure what I was using when it first happend but I just tried this one:

 

http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=37596

 

and the same thing happens.

 

Female are just fine.

[MonicaAngelBlade]

http://postimage.org/image/t3twzga57/full/

So that's happening during sex. I assume it's a skeleton problem as with the female equalivent.

 

Not sure what I was using when it first happend but I just tried this one:

 

http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=37596

 

and the same thing happens.

 

Female are just fine.

 

Have you tried any of these?

 

BBB Ragdoll Breast Physics - Growlfs Skeleton http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=40739

 

Coronerras Maximum Compatibility Skeletons http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=27945

 

I use Coronerras all the time with no problems.

[Phelps1247]

The second worked. Thanks. I thought that's what I was using the first time.

[Phelps1247]

Ah no that didn't fix it. I thought it did but it didn't. Is it possibly another non-skeleton related problem?

[gregathit]

Phelps, does this only occur with one animation or all of them?

 

If just one or two then the animation is what could be bad. If all then it could be a mesh and/or skeleton problem.

[Phelps1247]

Seems to be all. I tried a different mesh but it didn't change. Looked like one or two weren't broken but maybe I couldn't see the error.

 

Also when they're just standing around and I use the console to removeallitems they're fine.

[gregathit]

Ok, so let me see if I have this straight:

 

1. Your toons have this problem with all animations on normal sex.

2. Your toons still have this problem when you are using growlf's universal skeleton (the controllable version).

3. Your toons do NOT have this problem if you remove all items from them and have sex.

4. After installing growlf's universal skeleton you archive invalidated via bsa redirection and still have the issue.

5. You have started a new game to test things (not using saved games).

 

What body mod do you have installed?

What is your load order?

[GSBmodders]

Ok' date=' so let me see if I have this straight:

 

1. Your toons have this problem with all animations on normal sex.

2. Your toons still have this problem when you are using growlf's universal skeleton (the controllable version).

3. Your toons do NOT have this problem if you remove all items from them and have sex.

4. After installing growlf's universal skeleton you archive invalidated via bsa redirection and still have the issue.

5. You have started a new game to test things (not using saved games).

 

What body mod do you have installed?

What is your load order?

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Also what folder did he pull growlfs skeleton from, and did install both of the skeletons? many people only install the 1 and then they wonder why the first person view is screwed

 

the modders only skeleton will entirely screw up all animations, i am thinking that is what he used

 

then again it could also be something along the line's of turning a esp into an esm, like Vipcxjs it will function properly but over time it will also screw up aimations and corrupt saves, but left as a esp it works flawlessly

 

there are other mods that suffer the same problem so a load order posting is the best bet to fix the problem

[Phelps1247]

1. I eventually found ONE that works (#5) but it seems the rest of them are messed up like that. I re-downloaded the new and improved animation project just in case but it still happens.

 

2. Yes.

It's the controllable one and was placed:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\oblivion\Data\Meshes\characters\_1stperson

and

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\oblivion\Data\Meshes\characters\_male

 

3. No. If I remove all items and there's no sex involved it's not a problem. It happens during and after while laying on the ground but is otherwise not a problem.

 

4. Yes,OBMM is set to do it every time upon exit.

 

5. Yes.

 

Female body is variable through setbody,base body is TGND.

 

Male,I tried Roberts 4,Roberts 5.2 and Harts both as an omod and manual.

 

Load order:

 

Oblivion.esm

xeorace.esm

Xrace.esm

xeoracex117.esm

x117race.esm

Slim.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Hair Style Master.esm

Bab.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

Knights.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

SpeedBuster Collection.esp

kfclothes.esp

Lace outfits.esp

Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp

Elwing.esp

1SBVampireOutfits.esp

Bab.esp

Ryk_Swimwear.esp

Ryk_Swimwear2.esp

HGEC_SBVelvetRose.esp

Navel Piercings Enchanted.esp

Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Panty Shop HGEC.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

Slof's Jeans.esp

Slof's Goth Shop 3.esp

Slof's Gentlemen's Wear.esp

HitomiDress.esp

Bloodrayne set.esp

Jill.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

It's A Wig!.esp

FF_Lowrise_Ver0.2.esp

Pistols!.esp

Bab_KotN_Armors.esp

LC_Lingerie.esp

AirOC04 Vat.esp

Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp

Supergirl.esp

candy.esp

N_Undies.esp

Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp

HTBMondsteinShop.esp

Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp

HTBFLYCollection.esp

TGND_Lingerie_Underwear.esp

HTBNeoSGOutfitsRedone.esp

1SB_NightWeaveOutfit.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Neo_Ahrum_race.esp

Kani's Elves.esp

Nona.esp

FFRace.esp

SuccubusRace.esp

Synx.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Star Orphans.esp

IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

DKImperials.esp

EvyRace.esp

AIRrace Evy.esp

Raven Elves.esp

Human_Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

xeoex.esp

Nascosto Isles 3.esp

Haunted_House_v1.5.esp

YakumoIsle.esp

Ryk_Onsen.esp

YIsle_SpringSkin.esp

24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp

24HrArenaAliveV2.esp

2011_Studio.esp

SD2011.esp

Punk Stevo - Brutal Underground.esp

Halloween Haus.esp

Haunted Woods.esp

CTAddPose_Pinups.esp

CTAddPose_Pinups_2.esp

CTAddPose_Pinups_3.esp

The Uguu Poser.esp

CTAddPose_Bkasou.esp

CTAddPose_Le01.esp

CTAddPose_Ordinary.esp

Flan - Imp Edit.esp

SetBody.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

OSM-All Genders.esp

M2sHeavyFatigueConditions.esp

Ragdoll Camera.esp

LongerUnconscious.esp

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

TML_EfficientTorches.esp

BreathingOB.esp

Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp

No Sun Damage v1.0.esp

Alternative Beginnings.esp

No_Raiment_Ring-9336.esp

Get Wet bright.esp

OBGE - Liquid Water Basic.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

Specialanims.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

[gregathit]

Which version of male body are you running right now? To be perfectly honest you really don't need to do much more than install Roberts. Don't enable the esp for roberts as you simply don't need it. All setbody needs is the textures installed and then it takes it from there.

NOTE: Many of the setbody mods come with a skeleton so make sure you install the setbody mod and then install the universal skeleton afterwards.

 

I would not trust that OBMM is actually archive invalidating upon exit. Instead manually do it after you install any mod that is a replacer type (replaces something vanilla). If you have not installed any replacer type mods there is no need at all to archive invalidate.

 

Also you might try disabling this mod: Punk Stevo - Brutal Underground.esp

It has been known to cause all kinds of problems.

[Phelps1247]

Using Hart's now since that was the last one I tried since the previous Robert's didn't fix things. I've tried 4 different replacers now (some other random one) and animation #5 is the only one it doesn't happen with. Used manual invalidation the last 2 attempts.

 

I've had setbody installed for a long time so the skeletons were over-ridden.

 

Disabled the mod and no change.

[gregathit]

I would uninstall all your body mods including setbody to get back to a clean slate and then reistall setbody. This should fix things up for you.

[Phelps1247]

I uninstalled the body. Forgot the archive invalidation. It still happend with -no mesh- and once I reactivated archive invalidation it happend with the default mesh. It must be an animation problem?

[gregathit]

I uninstalled the body. Forgot the archive invalidation. It still happend with -no mesh- and once I reactivated archive invalidation it happend with the default mesh. It must be an animation problem?

 

Ok, I want you to try one last round of things:

 

1. Rename you oblivion.ini file that can be found where your saved games are (typically in the Documents\My Games\Oblivion\oblivion.ini) - change it to oblivion.ini-disabled, then start the game via the oblivion.exe (not via obse_loader.exe or OBMM or Wrye as you usually would), once the game screen shows up just hit escape and exit. What this did is have the game generate a new clean ini for you.

 

2. Then install Growlf's universal skeleton (the controllable version) and archive invalidate.

 

3. Then disable all esm/esp files except for the below items:

Oblivion.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

Knights.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

SetBody.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

4. Start a new game and test if things work correctly.

 

5. If this works (and it really should) then you should enable mods back one at a time until things break (you can make a new save after exiting the sewers with the above load order to save time for testing).

[Phelps1247]

Failed at #4. Animation #5 is still the only one that works normally.

[gregathit]

Failed at #4. Animation #5 is still the only one that works normally.

 

what is animation 5? missionary or bj?

[Phelps1247]

Neither. It's sideways.

I tried reinstalling the game and that didn't fix it either but that should really narrow down the problem.

Should also note it's working with females.

[gregathit]

Neither. It's sideways.

I tried reinstalling the game and that didn't fix it either but that should really narrow down the problem.

Should also note it's working with females.

 

 

Ok, so what you are describing now is not the same as the picture in your OP right? Can you post a new screeny of what it looks like now please.

[Phelps1247]

No it's the same problem.

 

This is the problem:

 

 

 

 

This is when they're just standing with no sex involved and everything is fine:

 

 

 

 

This one oddly resulted in no penis at all:

 

 

 

 

This is the one that works with no problem,motion 05:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But same guy,different animation and problem:

 

 

 

 

 

Happens with both Joburg and RaperS.

[gregathit]

Ok, I want you to extract the attached files (lowerbody.nif/skeleton.nif/skeleton.nif) and place them as follows:

Lowerbody.7z ---> Oblivion\Data\meshes\characters\_male\lowerbody.nif

Main Skeleton ---> Oblivion\Data\meshes\characters\_male\skeleton.nif

1st Person Skeleton ---> Oblivion\\meshes\characters\_1stperson\skeleton.nif

 

Make a backup of your current files (or you can rename their extensions to something like .nif-disable) before moving the attached in. Make no other changes other than this and try playing and see if things happen the same.

[Phelps1247]

Yup still the same.

[PhilMc2]

You say motion 5 is the only one that works??

Okay...I believe motion 5 is the only motion with a dangly penis...all others (wich seem to fail) have erected or hard pipis...

Can`t believe I`m asking this but do you have the normal Lovers-pipis for your characters or a mod like "Slofs Boners"?

 

if last: what about disabling "slofs boners"?

 

if first:

What Penis-Settings did you choose ingame with the Lovers-Menu?

This might be a problem with "Oblivion\Data\meshes\clothes\Lovers\penis.nif"

...did you try to install this file from the modpack again?

or (better)

...did you try to rename your Oblivion\Data\meshes\characters\_male\lowerbody.nif to penis.nif and replace it with Oblivion\Data\meshes\clothes\Lovers\penis.nif ?

See if this works...I guess you should have dangly pipis with all animations (or you use gregathits file) but your main problem should be gone

 

Btw...just to make sure what kind of archive invalidation do you have? The one from Modmanager? Or the downloadable one?

[gregathit]

PhilMc2, the file that I sent him contained an erect lowerbody.nif (I was hoping to trick both lovers and oblivion).

 

That is a good idea however to go into the sexual exploits spell and try selecting lovers v3 cocks to see if that helps. Personally slof's never worked right for me, but likely that was due user error

 

Well I am fresh out of ideas and have exhausted every trick and method I know of to get things working right.

[Phelps1247]

I had no idea what the setting was. Didn't even know there was one or that folder exsisted. Though yes that was in fact the problem file,renaming it didn't work but reinstalling from the pack worked.

[PhilMc2]

Lolz...the wonders of reinstalling ^^

 

@gregathit

noone needs the whole slofs boners mod ^^...I only copy the desired pipi branch over to my lowerbody.nif and that`s it...this should work for everyone ^^

...oookay it is Oblivion so there might be some problems with this too I guess -.-