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Innkeeper, Innserver, Bard & Packages, Factions Problem


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Hi,

 

I'm trying to create an Inn.

 

I duplicated several NPC's. I mostly followed the Darkfox127 Tutorials in Youtube.

 

My biggest problem is that I have no clue about meaning rank number 0 or -1 and what they can cause.

 

Few of my problems:

 

 

 

I can't ask to sing to the Bard. I duplicated Karita. I changed the Dawnstar related Factions & Packages. Still, it doesn't work.

 

Innserver NPC's Factions & Packages settings seem OK, I keep rank number 0, she only walks around.

 

Innkeeper NPC seems fine, but if I change the other NPC's rank or factions, etc, one of her questions gets lost.

 

 

 

I have to understand the logic of Factions & Packages. But, I couldn't find in the Internet, or I don't know how to search where I can find it.

 

What can you suggest?

 

Thank you in advance...

 

Sincerely Yours,

 

 

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My biggest problem is that I have no clue about meaning rank number 0 or -1 and what they can cause.

 

http://www.creationkit.com/GetFactionRank_-_Actor

 

Keep in mind that -1 is effectively the same as not being in the faction, the rank needs to be edited to 0 or a positive number for the actor to pass IsInFaction checks.

 

 

I can't ask to sing to the Bard. I duplicated Karita. I changed the Dawnstar related Factions & Packages. Still, it doesn't work.

 

Open the BardSongs quest -> Player Dialogue tab -> BardSongsGeneralRequestBranch. Now open the first topic info and check the conditions. Your duplicated NPC is missing one of these, probably the LocationHasKeyword : LocTypeInn, if you created the inn without assigning location keywords.

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My biggest problem is that I have no clue about meaning rank number 0 or -1 and what they can cause.

 

http://www.creationkit.com/GetFactionRank_-_Actor

 

Keep in mind that -1 is effectively the same as not being in the faction, the rank needs to be edited to 0 or a positive number for the actor to pass IsInFaction checks.

 

 

I can't ask to sing to the Bard. I duplicated Karita. I changed the Dawnstar related Factions & Packages. Still, it doesn't work.

 

Open the BardSongs quest -> Player Dialogue tab -> BardSongsGeneralRequestBranch. Now open the first topic info and check the conditions. Your duplicated NPC is missing one of these, probably the LocationHasKeyword : LocTypeInn, if you created the inn without assigning location keywords.

 

 

Thank You,

 

I'll check those...

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I can't ask to sing to the Bard. I duplicated Karita. I changed the Dawnstar related Factions & Packages. Still, it doesn't work.

 

Open the BardSongs quest -> Player Dialogue tab -> BardSongsGeneralRequestBranch. Now open the first topic info and check the conditions. Your duplicated NPC is missing one of these, probably the LocationHasKeyword : LocTypeInn, if you created the inn without assigning location keywords.

 

 

I still have the bard problem.

 

I don't know how to use LocTypeInn.

I just used

Reference of Bard NPC. Linked Ref tab. I selected the reference that I created, which is a XMarkerHeading (with the keyword "BardPlaySpot").

I gave a specific name to the XMarkerHeading too.

 

In BardSongsGeneralRequestBranch, I added:

GetIisID

Actor: 'BardNPC'

Comparison: !=

Value:1.0000

Run On: Subject

 

I mostly followed Darkfox127 Tutorial in Youtube.

I make something, or lots of things wrong!!!

 

Argggg...

 

When he explains, it seems easy. But for me, it's really big deal...

 

:)

 

 

 

 

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I checked few more tutorials about LocTypeInn and bard.

 

About creating a LocTypeInn, I find this:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/669999-bard-is-not/page-2

 

 

1. Open the external world view of your house (not the inside, but where the map marker/front door/entrance is).

2. Go to WorldData>Location in the Object Window, and select the Location of your player home (i.e. Whiterun Hold, etc)

3. Right-click in the list of locations (under the EditorID column to the right, NOT in the main Object Window list), and select New.

4. Give the location a name and select the Reference in the Render Window (map marker, etc) and set the Radius to include your house (I selected the map marker, and set the radius to 512, though I'm sure that's either too big or too small), then set the Parent Location to wherever your house is situated (i.e. Whiterun Hold, etc). Click OK until those windows close.

5. Your house should now be in the list under the main Location (i.e. Whiterun Hold, etc). Edit that entry and set the Keyword as LocTypeInn.

5. Right-click on your house in the Cell View window and Edit. When you click the Location dropbox on the Common Data tab, you should see your place in the list. Set it as a Public Area on the Interior Data tab.

 

I did all that and now my Bard does her thang. biggrin.gif

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-dEwfJHRTw

In a different a video tutorial about creating a bard, I fund something like this below:

 

 

1. Duplicate & rename JobBardFaction (e.g. NPCJobBardFaction)

2. Quest => BardSongs => BardSongsgeneralRequestBranch

3. Right Click on "Sure, what can I do for you?", then select Copy.

4. Double-Click on dublicated "Sure, what can I do for you?"

5. Delete all factions except "BardSingerFaction" and "BardNoRequestFaction".

6. Create a new faction as:

 

Condition Fuction: GetInFaction

Faction: 'NPCJobBardFaction'

Comparison: ==

Value: 1.0000

Run on: Subject

 

7. Add the NPCJobBardFaction in NPC's Faction List.

 

 

 

I do not know why/how it works.

 

As a result, everything seems satisfying...

 

Thanks...

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