Kirara5 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 I'm trying to use defeat to allow me to loose to animals and SD+ to get me enslaved by people. Defeat seems to work pretty well, I get beaten down and raped. If I have defeat uninstalled and only use DA then the moment I get knocked down I get stuck permanently. If I set defeat to use DA 100% of the time defeat goes off, then once the attackers are done I get sent into a permanent blackout. Though if I use SD+'s surrender key "\" then SD+ works fine. I've set DA's mcm to use SD+ for getting knocked down but I stay frozen with only the heartbeat noise and everyone ignores me. Load order (Sorry I have a lot of mods): 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.2b] 06 RaceCompatibility.esm 07 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 08 hdtHighHeel.esm 09 SexLab.esm [Version 1.61] 0A SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.6] 0B ApachiiHair.esm 0C TERAArmors.esm 0D SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm 0E Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] 0F Evil Lair of Hydra.esm 10 fox_shop.esm 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 MiasLair.esp [Version 6.1] 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 14 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 15 NekoRace.esm 16 daymoyl.esm 17 EFFCore.esm 18 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 19 ApachiiHairMales.esm 1A ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 1B ScocLB.esm 1C SkyUI.esp 1D iHUD.esp 1E CharacterMakingExtender.esp 1F XPMSE.esp 20 FNIS.esp 21 RaceMenu.esp 22 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 23 KS Hairdo's.esp 24 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 25 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 26 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 27 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 28 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 29 MoreNastyCritters.esp 2A SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 7] 2B vlkStrip.esp 2C SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 2D UIExtensions.esp 2E LyPlayerVoice.esp 2F ImmersiveFP.esp 30 SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp 31 SexLab Extra Voices.esp 32 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 33 SkyrimBound.esp 34 zzEstrus.esp 35 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 36 zThingsInDark.esp 37 Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 38 dcpack1.esp 39 SlaveTats.esp 3A Tera Armor Level List.esp 3B Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 3C Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp [Version 0.9.4] 3D ELFX - Exteriors.esp 3E zzEstrusMimic.esp 3F SexLabGuild.esp [Version 666] 40 PWwaterfall.esp 41 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] 42 ELFXEnhancer.esp 43 SD Cages.esp [Version 2.5] 44 SexLab_Solutions.esp 45 NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp 46 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 47 Correct Gender Animations - Legendary Edition.esp 48 Immersive Weapons.esp 49 AOS.esp [Version 2.5.1DGDB] 4A hydra_slavegirls.esp 4B Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] 4C BDIC.esp 4D xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 4E xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 4F Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp 50 Captured Dreams.esp 51 Cum Shot Brothel.esp [Version 0.7.1] 52 HentaiCreatures.esp 53 animal_mansion.esp 54 SexLab More Creatures.esp 55 wolfclub.esp 56 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 57 Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 58 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 59 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 5A EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 5B zDeviousStories.esp 5C SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp 5D RavenCastle.esp 5E SGS.esp 5F ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp 60 qayl.esp 61 DeviousRegulations.esp 62 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 63 GetStripped.esp 64 EFFDialogue.esp 65 CoCo_TDM2.esp 66 SkyCasino.esp 67 BesEss.esp 68 Aradia Devious Expansion.esp 69 SexLabDefeat.esp 6A mslDeviousCaptures.esp 6B Sacrificial Spriggan.esp 6C Milker Movil Armor.esp 6D SMUTBDS.esp 6E Devious Cidhna.esp 6F SerialStrip.esp 70 SerialStripper.esp 71 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 72 GagSFX.esp 73 Sleeping Innkeepers.esp [Version 1.0] 74 Cum Alchemy.esp 75 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 76 Spriggan Armor 2.esp 77 CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp 78 SSLToys.esp 79 S_L_U_T_S.esp 7A SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 7B Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 7C Deviously Enslaved.esp 7D AngrimApprentice.esp 7E daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 7F Sneak Tools.esp 80 MilkModNEW.esp 81 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 82 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 83 MilkModNEW HF.esp 84 MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp 85 DeviousToys.esp 86 zzLSAR.esp 87 EstrusChaurus.esp 88 ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp 89 DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest.esp 8A dD Enchanted Chests.esp 8B display-model.esp 8C MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp 8D Gamefever 1st Person Items Fix.esp 8E SleepTight.esp 8F College of Winterhold Entry Requirements.esp 90 StreakerPerks_2013-05-29.esp 91 PervertedPerks.esp 92 DW.esp 93 SLIA - Dawnguard.esp 94 SLIA - Dragonborn.esp 95 SLIA - Skyrim.esp 96 SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.7.2] 97 SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp 98 SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp 99 SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 9A SLA Monitor Widget.esp 9B SexLab-AmorousAdventures-ArousalTriggers.esp 9C SexLabArousedAnimations.esp 9D SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp 9E SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 9F adcSexlife.esp A0 Sexlab Release.esp A1 Horgasm.esp A2 SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp A3 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp A4 SexLabWorkingGirl.esp A5 SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp A6 SWT1.2.esp A7 Blush When Aroused.esp A8 Blush When Aroused CE.esp A9 Devious Loading Screens.esp [Version 2.7] AA GCE NPCs Replacer.esp AB Bijin Warmaidens.esp AC zHauntedHouse.esp AD LoversComfort.esp AE FNISspells.esp AF FoxMerged.esp B0 Qasmoke.esp B1 PetCollar.esp B2 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp B3 submissivelola.esp B4 Riding Styles.esp B5 Books of Skyrim Compilation.esp B6 Devious Deviants.esp B7 FollowerCiceria.esp B8 DeviousMagic.esp B9 Abigail The Maid.esp BA Nekomimi Follower 7 Base Normal Version.esp BB OK_HumanBeastCaravan.esp BC TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] BD MF_RadiantProstitution.esp BE vlkAnimalFollower.esp BF tailed_dildo_FV20.esp C0 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp C1 NekoRace_V3_Plugin.esp C2 dc-untamed-000.esp C3 K2 Naked Mage.esp C4 SMDR Cat Lingerie.esp C5 BDO_Kibelius.esp C6 UNPB_BBP_Rabbit.esp C7 Red Vipers Racing Swimsuit.esp C8 Vamp.esp C9 Arcane Sister Outfit.esp CA Arcane Knicker.esp CB ChaPi clothing.esp CC Sara.esp CD HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp CE FlameAtronachArmor.esp CF FullBootForKKSA.esp D0 AddItemMenu.esp D1 NewVampChainsArmorReplacer.esp D2 adenz_lily.esp D3 adenz_FairyFollowers.esp D4 adenz_MarieRose.esp D5 Skyrim HD Tribute - Roads.esp D6 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp D7 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp D8 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp D9 Purewaters.esp DA TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp DB Sextoys Calyps - Enhanced.esp DC Mememe harness.esp DD Anal Torch.esp DE pchsImmersivePlugs.esp DF vampirefarith.esp E0 Devious Devices - Equip.esp E1 ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp E2 SGEyebrows.esp E3 TrueEyes.esp E4 Bijin Wives.esp E5 Bijin NPCs.esp E6 ExtraPockets.esp E7 RevampedExteriorFog.esp E8 SFO - Dragonborn.esp E9 Supreme Fog.esp EA mintylightningmod.esp EB AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp EC D13LeveledItemsUpgradeD.esp ED Enchanted Devious Devices.esp EE Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.0.7] EF Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp F0 ImmerSlave.esp F1 Devious Bashnag.esp Also if you see any other potential problems with my setup advice is always nice.
Marauderrr Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 I use Sanguines for enslave as well... here's a few things to check - creatures enabled in SL - in Defeat, under knock down way, make sure wound, exhaustion, stun are off - under assault by NPC and Creature set Knock Down Scenario to All down - under player post assault I have Base DA set to 50% - for DA under Register quests now select Manual registration...Defeat should be listed on bleedout tab. I set mine to 90% I also have SD listed for enslavement - I have sangiunes close to the bottom of the load order I used loot to sort load order to give me a starting point, then adjusted from there. For some reason the BBCode spoiler was not working for me....doing something wrong, but here is my load order. Not sure if any of this helps, but I hope so...works for me. LoadOrder_Skyrim.txt
Nazzzgul666 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Hmpf, the forum devoured my post. Ok: 2 possibilities i think: The long and hard and not neccessrarily successful way: try to figure out if it's a certain mod conflict or scriptlag by dis/enabling mods until you know, and avoid the problem. While writing i had an imho better idea: use Simply Slavery + the defeat option for that and disable or uninstall DA (or just set options to 0). Simply Slavery can send you to any slavery mod here as far as i know, including SD+. The only thing you won't get that way are the default quests from DA. The only possible conflict i can see there is: probably Devious Cidnha Expanded should be after Devious Cidnha. But i'm really no expert at all when it comes to load order, i always use LOOT and MO and hope that it will fix everything which usually works.
Kirara5 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 Hmpf, the forum devoured my post. Ok: 2 possibilities i think: The long and hard and not neccessrarily successful way: try to figure out if it's a certain mod conflict or scriptlag by dis/enabling mods until you know, and avoid the problem. While writing i had an imho better idea: use Simply Slavery + the defeat option for that and disable or uninstall DA (or just set options to 0). Simply Slavery can send you to any slavery mod here as far as i know, including SD+. The only thing you won't get that way are the default quests from DA. The only possible conflict i can see there is: probably Devious Cidnha Expanded should be after Devious Cidnha. But i'm really no expert at all when it comes to load order, i always use LOOT and MO and hope that it will fix everything which usually works. Thanks I upgraded defeat and switched over to using Simple Slavery instead, seems to be working fine now.
Kirara5 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 I use Sanguines for enslave as well... here's a few things to check - creatures enabled in SL - in Defeat, under knock down way, make sure wound, exhaustion, stun are off - under assault by NPC and Creature set Knock Down Scenario to All down - under player post assault I have Base DA set to 50% - for DA under Register quests now select Manual registration...Defeat should be listed on bleedout tab. I set mine to 90% I also have SD listed for enslavement - I have sangiunes close to the bottom of the load order I used loot to sort load order to give me a starting point, then adjusted from there. For some reason the BBCode spoiler was not working for me....doing something wrong, but here is my load order. Not sure if any of this helps, but I hope so...works for me. Thanks for trying, unfortunately DA decided it wanted to crash every time I tried to use it and I got fed up. I'm still using SD+ but I have SS to call on it now. To bad SS doesn't have the same percentage system as DA.
Nazzzgul666 Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 I use Sanguines for enslave as well... here's a few things to check - creatures enabled in SL - in Defeat, under knock down way, make sure wound, exhaustion, stun are off - under assault by NPC and Creature set Knock Down Scenario to All down - under player post assault I have Base DA set to 50% - for DA under Register quests now select Manual registration...Defeat should be listed on bleedout tab. I set mine to 90% I also have SD listed for enslavement - I have sangiunes close to the bottom of the load order I used loot to sort load order to give me a starting point, then adjusted from there. For some reason the BBCode spoiler was not working for me....doing something wrong, but here is my load order. Not sure if any of this helps, but I hope so...works for me. Thanks for trying, unfortunately DA decided it wanted to crash every time I tried to use it and I got fed up. I'm still using SD+ but I have SS to call on it now. To bad SS doesn't have the same percentage system as DA. You can still play around with the wound/exhausted/stun options from defeat if you want to be beaten before your health is zero. I didn't have the problem that i died before defeat could trigger, if you do: i think i've seen untamed in your load order, try to raise your armor/resistance if you die too fast Both is not the same, but probably it's possible to get something close enough. Btw, if you're using SD+ that much you can hopefully give me an answer: what do i have to do to start the SD+ quests below "gold for the wicked"? Last but not least: SS supports a lot of questmods, you could give them a try too, but not all of them are stable so better keep a save before installing them. Wolfclub worked fine for me for example and isn't that long either. Best used with something like RND Isle of Mara is a gaymod but works fine with a female character (worst part is that you'll sometimes be called 'boy'...), quite long and imho one of the best questmods at all here. Dragonbottom is gender-neutral, right? Some users reported problems though, if your system is already at it's limits maybe better use a new game for that one.
Kirara5 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 I use Sanguines for enslave as well... here's a few things to check - creatures enabled in SL - in Defeat, under knock down way, make sure wound, exhaustion, stun are off - under assault by NPC and Creature set Knock Down Scenario to All down - under player post assault I have Base DA set to 50% - for DA under Register quests now select Manual registration...Defeat should be listed on bleedout tab. I set mine to 90% I also have SD listed for enslavement - I have sangiunes close to the bottom of the load order I used loot to sort load order to give me a starting point, then adjusted from there. For some reason the BBCode spoiler was not working for me....doing something wrong, but here is my load order. Not sure if any of this helps, but I hope so...works for me. Thanks for trying, unfortunately DA decided it wanted to crash every time I tried to use it and I got fed up. I'm still using SD+ but I have SS to call on it now. To bad SS doesn't have the same percentage system as DA. You can still play around with the wound/exhausted/stun options from defeat if you want to be beaten before your health is zero. I didn't have the problem that i died before defeat could trigger, if you do: i think i've seen untamed in your load order, try to raise your armor/resistance if you die too fast Both is not the same, but probably it's possible to get something close enough. Btw, if you're using SD+ that much you can hopefully give me an answer: what do i have to do to start the SD+ quests below "gold for the wicked"? Last but not least: SS supports a lot of questmods, you could give them a try too, but not all of them are stable so better keep a save before installing them. Wolfclub worked fine for me for example and isn't that long either. Best used with something like RND Isle of Mara is a gaymod but works fine with a female character (worst part is that you'll sometimes be called 'boy'...), quite long and imho one of the best questmods at all here. Dragonbottom is gender-neutral, right? Some users reported problems though, if your system is already at it's limits maybe better use a new game for that one. Ya I don't have any problem with dying before defeat as defeat has always worked perfectly for me (Good on you defeat). For those secondary quests I think they just happen on a random chance or depend on what you're defeated by (or what buys you in SS's case), The dreamworld also changes some aspects. Though don't hold me to that . Complete randomness is cool, I just enjoy the ability to change the weights of what quests I get.
FrAnCy96 Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 I use Sanguines for enslave as well... here's a few things to check - creatures enabled in SL - in Defeat, under knock down way, make sure wound, exhaustion, stun are off - under assault by NPC and Creature set Knock Down Scenario to All down - under player post assault I have Base DA set to 50% - for DA under Register quests now select Manual registration...Defeat should be listed on bleedout tab. I set mine to 90% I also have SD listed for enslavement - I have sangiunes close to the bottom of the load order so, this made Defeat, DA and SD+ work fine togheter for me. At least for humans! whenever DA triggers defeat by creature i get CTD, even if when using the defeat surrender key on a creature it works fine. help pls?
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