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For some NPCs every time I look at their inventories their ingredients double.  So if they have 2 apple and I look in their inventories 4 times they will have 16 apples on the fourth time.  This happens even if I remove the ingredients. 

 

This happens no matter what I use to look at their inventories.  I use Active Inventory Spell, Human Touch, Hypnosis from LTD Vampire Overhaul, CSR, and CM Partners to access inventories and all of them causes this but like I said with only some NPCs.  

 

Right now this has happen with a generic Bruma guard, A NPC from MBP, and a vanilla NPC.   The MBP NPC is a unique NPCs that respawns.  I managed to fix her by using disable, enable, resurrect and removing all ingredients on the first attempt.  I'm not sure if I needed to remove the ingredients but I put some more in and they didn't double. 

 

I tried the same thing with the guard but it didn't work.  I just used the kill console command on him.  When his replacement showed up the next day I went in and removed his ingredients. The ingredients didn't double. 

 

This just started happening after I removed Spreading Vampirism, Training Cattle, reinstalled  both, and made some minor changes to a few mods. All I did was change the factions on a few creatures in OOO to stop them from attacking my companions when summon, removed and added some spells to my vampire companion and added some items to a custom merchant.   I'm not sure if any of those things are related to my current problem. 

 

Oh now that I think about 2 of the NPCs were cows converting using Training Cattle but the guard was just a normal guard with no outside mods influencing him.  

 

 

Below is my mod list

 

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Oblivion.esm
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
Better Mining.esm
Better Mining Shivering Isles.esm
Jobs.esm
Jobs Shivering Isles.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm
CM Partners.esm
Toaster Says Share v3.esm
x117race.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
LoadingScreens.esp
Brucevayne's Sound Sets.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
My Voice Extender.esp
Camping.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
TeddyBackpacks.esp
TeddyBackpacksAcc.esp
Duke Patricks - Safe Save.esp
FormID Finder4.esp
kuerteeCleanUp.esp
OblivionReloaded.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
Enhanced Hotkeys.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
Chapel Shop.esp
EY_Vampirehunter.esp
CB Rogue Armor.esp
AncientGuardianRobe.esp
Command Mount.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
AABTSv1.esp
Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp
Better Mining Patch.esp
GoldenCrest.esp
GoldenCrestBattlehornComp.esp
Jobs Patch.esp
Jobs Shivering Isles Patch.esp
PortableCookingPot_JOBS.esp
GlenvarCastle.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Frostcrag_LOD.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Roads of Cyrodiil.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp
xulJerallGlacier.esp
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
CHILDREN ANNUAD.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
HUDCompanions.esp
LoversProstitute.esp
LoversHooker.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LSTBravilUnderground.esp
Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
Basic Primary Needs.esp
Basic Personal Hygiene.esp
LTDVampireOverhaul.esp
SpreadingVampirism_NoSecondaryInfection.esp
Muggervamp.esp
muggervampinvisbed.esp
Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
Summon Dremora Lord Saved.esp
RefScope.esp
SetBody.esp
Dans-Necromancy.esp
StolenItemOwnership.esp
sycHearNoEvil.esp
HumantouchNPC.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
CM Partners.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
VailenaRace.esp
From2ch Lives.esp
F2L_FaceChange.esp
Ta22's 01Army.esp
117NPCs.esp
From2ch Lives Boss.esp
F2LHideRaces.esp
F2LAddon_MSElves.esp
Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp
AsharasCMBeasts.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
VailenaCompanionValeria.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
MiniMap.esp
UVIII.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
Baron's Rich Merchant.esp
Baron's Bash Faction Fix.esp
Baron's Bash Patch Fixes.esp
Baron's Blood Witch Vamp.esp
Baron's OOO Patch.esp
VailenaCompBashFix - OOO.esp
 

 

 

 

This bug has me worried that crap is doubling out of control in the background.  I'm just waiting for the game to blowup and leave pieces of Baron all over the place. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted

The doubling is because they have a negative amount of the object in their inventory, and inventory managers don't tend to allow for that correctly. The negative count is to ensure that they never run out - it effectively gives them an infinite amount of the item.

 

Let's say for example, that they have -2 apples to begin with. When you access their inventory, the script actually moves their inventory to a container, and you access that container. When it does that, the -2 apples in their inventory magically becomes +2 apples in the container. When the apples are removed from the NPC's inventory, they are automatically refreshed, so the NPC still has -2 apples. When you finish with their inventory, the +2 apples from the container are moved into the NPC's inventory, and added to the -2 apples already there. In the world of Oblivion, +2 added to -2 equals -4. So now they have -4 apples, and if you access their inventory again, +4 apples appear in the container, and at the end they are added to the -4 apples the NPC still has, resulting in them having -8 apples. And so on...

 

You've already discovered the solution to this - the first time you access the NPC's inventory, remove all the items that have a negative count (unfortunately you'll have to look in the CS or Tes4Edit to see which items). If you then close their inventory, it should remove the negative count items, and you should be free to give them the items back without them doubling.

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For some NPCs every time I look at their inventories their ingredients double.  So if they have 2 apple and I look in their inventories 4 times they will have 16 apples on the fourth time.  This happens even if I remove the ingredients. 

 

This happens no matter what I use to look at their inventories.  I use Active Inventory Spell, Human Touch, Hypnosis from LTD Vampire Overhaul, CSR, and CM Partners to access inventories and all of them causes this but like I said with only some NPCs.  

 

Right now this has happen with a generic Bruma guard, A NPC from MBP, and a vanilla NPC.   The MBP NPC is a unique NPCs that respawns.  I managed to fix her by using disable, enable, resurrect and removing all ingredients on the first attempt.  I'm not sure if I needed to remove the ingredients but I put some more in and they didn't double. 

 

I tried the same thing with the guard but it didn't work.  I just used the kill console command on him.  When his replacement showed up the next day I went in and removed his ingredients. The ingredients didn't double. 

 

This just started happening after I removed Spreading Vampirism, Training Cattle, reinstalled  both, and made some minor changes to a few mods. All I did was change the factions on a few creatures in OOO to stop them from attacking my companions when summon, removed and added some spells to my vampire companion and added some items to a custom merchant.   I'm not sure if any of those things are related to my current problem. 

 

Oh now that I think about 2 of the NPCs were cows converting using Training Cattle but the guard was just a normal guard with no outside mods influencing him.  

 

 

Below is my mod list

 

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Oblivion.esm
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
Better Mining.esm
Better Mining Shivering Isles.esm
Jobs.esm
Jobs Shivering Isles.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm
CM Partners.esm
Toaster Says Share v3.esm
x117race.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
LoadingScreens.esp
Brucevayne's Sound Sets.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
My Voice Extender.esp
Camping.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
TeddyBackpacks.esp
TeddyBackpacksAcc.esp
Duke Patricks - Safe Save.esp
FormID Finder4.esp
kuerteeCleanUp.esp
OblivionReloaded.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
Enhanced Hotkeys.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
Chapel Shop.esp
EY_Vampirehunter.esp
CB Rogue Armor.esp
AncientGuardianRobe.esp
Command Mount.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
AABTSv1.esp
Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp
Better Mining Patch.esp
GoldenCrest.esp
GoldenCrestBattlehornComp.esp
Jobs Patch.esp
Jobs Shivering Isles Patch.esp
PortableCookingPot_JOBS.esp
GlenvarCastle.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Frostcrag_LOD.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Roads of Cyrodiil.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp
xulJerallGlacier.esp
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
CHILDREN ANNUAD.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
HUDCompanions.esp
LoversProstitute.esp
LoversHooker.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LSTBravilUnderground.esp
Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
Basic Primary Needs.esp
Basic Personal Hygiene.esp
LTDVampireOverhaul.esp
SpreadingVampirism_NoSecondaryInfection.esp
Muggervamp.esp
muggervampinvisbed.esp
Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
Summon Dremora Lord Saved.esp
RefScope.esp
SetBody.esp
Dans-Necromancy.esp
StolenItemOwnership.esp
sycHearNoEvil.esp
HumantouchNPC.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
CM Partners.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
VailenaRace.esp
From2ch Lives.esp
F2L_FaceChange.esp
Ta22's 01Army.esp
117NPCs.esp
From2ch Lives Boss.esp
F2LHideRaces.esp
F2LAddon_MSElves.esp
Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp
AsharasCMBeasts.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
VailenaCompanionValeria.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
MiniMap.esp
UVIII.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
Baron's Rich Merchant.esp
Baron's Bash Faction Fix.esp
Baron's Bash Patch Fixes.esp
Baron's Blood Witch Vamp.esp
Baron's OOO Patch.esp
VailenaCompBashFix - OOO.esp
 

 

 

 

This bug has me worried that crap is doubling out of control in the background.  I'm just waiting for the game to blowup and leave pieces of Baron all over the place. 

 

Greetings.

 

 I think it's only because you use a saved game ... corrupted because you removed some mods.

 

Except a personnal version of CM ( where all is merged, nor more "essential NPCs or creaures etc ... ans no more +/- 70 places with a corrupted name in ... englis h - i use a french version )  i think i don't use any of your mod but i already got your problem  , i use TalkieToaster companion share mod , i this issue occur when i changed my old version ( finally i prefer the old one ) to his latest. .

 

When i started a new game, no more this kind of issue. Usually i use OBSE19 ( i need it for the VipCxj 's Real HighHeels system ) , and actually OBSE20 required for  i don't remember exactly which mod ... in fact i need OBSE to edit OBSE based mod , nothing else.

 

Cheers.

 

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