zlazarvs Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Well, I had this problem for a year and probably its time to call for help instead trying to fix it by myself. Like a 80% of the saves I have are unaccesible and this is making my game unplayable. I usually save 3-5 times per save, and 4 of these saves are fucked up and I cant load them without a CTD, but I have 1 that I can load. I dont know why, but it happens. When I load one of that 4 saves, the game loads normally. I hear the music, I hear the sound of equiping somethin, and, in the moment when I see the game, BOOM, it crash to desktop. This just got me to one conclusion: My compulsive mod instalation without caring about the load order is hitting back. If someone had a little idea about why this is happening, please tell me. My actual load order, after using LOOT: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp hdtHighHeel.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm SGHairPackBase.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm AOM.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Inn Girls Resources.esm CompanionArissa.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm daymoyl.esm KameleonArmor.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm CreatureFramework.esm RaceCompatibility.esm SPIKE.esm XPMSE.esp SwordplayFinishers.esp RevampedExteriorFog.esp SkyRe_Main.esp MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Immersive Wenches.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp SoS - Civilization.esp OBIS.esp SoS - The Dungeons.esp Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp SkyUI.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp UIExtensions.esp UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp LFox Pickpocketing Chance Caps at 100.esp MorePP.esp DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Disparity.esp AuroraFollower.esp Morskom.esp No Essentials 1.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp NPCs of Dibella - Females - USKP - SkyRe.esp SSv2.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp HentaiCreatures.esp UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp fallentreebridges.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Populated Cities 2.esp LPBards.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp East Reach House.esp SkyRe_Races.esp AOM.esp Hateful Wenches.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp FalmerBikini.esp Hunterborn.esp alcoholiceffect.esp SOS - Shop.esp FreckleMania.esp KJ Lore Tattoos 2K.esp KJ Tattoos 2K.esp BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp Brows.esp Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp Fh hairs-by zzjay.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp SGHair33x144.esp HHairstyles.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp KS Hairdo's.esp MikanEyes All in one.esp Nouserhere Ears.esp RenHair.esp Purewaters.esp RSChildren - Complete.esp RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp zzEstrus.esp Celtic Music in Skyrim 2.0.esp Celtic Music in Skyrim - Combat.esp Celtic Music in Skyrim - Dungeons v1.1.esp HeartBreaker.esp Locational Damage.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Seductress Serana.esp SKY_Lumen-Cael.esp Venice.esp Moniko.esp SKY_Aura.esp DeadlyHeadshots_v200.esp better_torches.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp Immersive Speechcraft.esp Immersive detection of NPC.esp FS_UltimateAssortment.esp KameleonArmor.esp ClumsinessMod.esp SKY_Solis.esp The Ningheim.esp The Ningheim - Followers.esp Sunsakuka Follower Pack.esp SKY_Girls.esp Zt_followers.esp SteelPlateBikini.esp vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp DragonBoneBikini.esp FNISspells.esp TheLily.esp SteelBikini.esp BladesBikini.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Real Clouds.esp WKBendTime.esp EnchantedArsenal.esp Facelight.esp InvisibilityPower.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp OBISDB.esp Avelyn Follower.esp CiriOutfit.esp Sneak Tools.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp JZBai_Hidespots.esp KatanaCrafting.esp CharmingHighHeels.esp UNP Undies.esp ShreddedTrissMash.esp hentai Dark Rose.esp NiaOutfitBBP.esp Field Mage Outfit.esp Neo's Selene.esp SKY_Uniques.esp Finnia.esp SKY_Iridis.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp Neo's Scouter Set.esp zzjayHentaisConversions.esp Aradia Kato Outfit.esp AradiaKatoArmor.esp BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp Strap.esp MashupUNP.esp Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp Skyrim Unlimited Rings and Amulets SP.esp SexyVest.esp Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp Zipsuit.esp HuntressArmor.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp voidMountedFollowers.esp Northgirl.esp Ocean's Allure.esp Tembtra Thief Armor.esp Celes Nightingale Armor.esp CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp DemonHunterArmor.esp PuppetMaster.esp AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp AradiaRogueArmor.esp zzArmormashups.esp bm_SimpleAction.esp Minou FenghuaZ CBBE TBBP Bodyslide.esp Minou Youlan CBBE TBBP Bodyslide.esp Abigail The Maid.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp SexLab Romance.esp Rowana Follower.esp Osare Culort Outfit.esp Osare Maid Outfit.esp Shyvana.esp Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp Devious Deviants.esp SexLabStopCombat.esp SexLab_Paycrime.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SDpatch - frostfall.esp NusbieVoices.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SLALAnimObj.esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp display-model.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp Blush When Aroused.esp SLAnimSpeed.esp SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SexLabUtil1.esp SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp SSLToys.esp SL Deadly Drain.esp NecroAnims.esp SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp AetherSuite.esp SexLabDangerousNights.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp FNIS.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Halo's Poser.esp Deadly Wenches.esp Forgotten Wenches.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp SexLabSolutions_LAL_Patch.esp ReProccer.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Main_AHead_V.esp SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC1_AHead_V.esp SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC2_AHead_V.esp Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp Thugs.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp (253 active plugins, im fucking crazy) The Papyrus log of a ctd after loading is attached. Papyrus.0.log And here one save that went ok. Papyrus.0.log
CGi Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 The max plugin amount is the least stable and i have no clue about most of these mods.But what you described (game loads, sounds, crash) can usually be bypassed by using QASmoke as starting save.And don't forget to clean your save game and to keep your gaming sessions below 2h. To create a QASMoke save, do the following:- open the console in the main menu- execute COC QASmoke (not case sensitive) - let everything finish initializing - quicksave - quit the game (completly) - load the previously made quicksave - wait a bit (like 1 minute) - open the console - execute Save QASMoke - quit the game (completly again) - clean the QASMoke save using the linked tool - if the QASmoke save has more to clean than Havok, then you need to do some troubleshooting to find the mods that cause it From this point on load the QASMoke save first and then your prefered savegame. Should work like a charm unless you have to many mods that fire on game load. P.s.: Merge your armor and weapon plugins. They consume needed load indexes and can in most cases be safely reduced to 1 single plugin. if a armor or weapon plugin is scripted, merging might not be possible w/o further actions. Edit: And your USKP is outdated. Update recommended and if then a mod no longer works: ditch it and wait for a new release or patch it as described by the USKP authors.
zlazarvs Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 The max plugin amount is the least stable and i have no clue about most of these mods. But what you described (game loads, sounds, crash) can usually be bypassed by using QASmoke as starting save. And don't forget to clean your save game and to keep your gaming sessions below 2h. To create a QASMoke save, do the following: - open the console in the main menu - execute COC QASmoke (not case sensitive) - let everything finish initializing - quicksave - quit the game (completly) - load the previously made quicksave - wait a bit (like 1 minute) - open the console - execute Save QASMoke - quit the game (completly again) - clean the QASMoke save using the linked tool - if the QASmoke save has more to clean than Havok, then you need to do some troubleshooting to find the mods that cause it From this point on load the QASMoke save first and then your prefered savegame. Should work like a charm unless you have to many mods that fire on game load. P.s.: Merge your armor and weapon plugins. They consume needed load indexes and can in most cases be safely reduced to 1 single plugin. if a armor or weapon plugin is scripted, merging might not be possible w/o further actions. Edit: And your USKP is outdated. Update recommended and if then a mod no longer works: ditch it and wait for a new release or patch it as described by the USKP authors. I think you just saved my life with that thing of QASMoke save. I dont know how to merge the armor/weapon plugins, but im on it. Anyways, I think all my armors and weapons have their own scrip. About the USKP, I didn´t noticed an update. Thanks, really.
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