Avatier Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 So I was wandering the internets and I noticed there was a new ImaItems, I caved in and took a peak at what the contents was. There seems to be a message here in this particular modification from the creator: -Start of Messages- [Reprint, alteration, etc. Redistribution] Do not reprint or redistribute anywhere, of course, may be altered if I enjoy locally in your PC only. It's not that I sensed. Other than that is described below. This statement is translated using the WEB I have been writing only to convey the use and conditions. English is not even my own use, and it is not I want to use English. Contact, conversation, etc. I use only the Japanese. Also been contacted in English, etc. Just because it is written in English, therefore ignore. Redistribution of this MOD MOD, but not limited to, that you created for me, reprint, translation will be refused. If you wish to enable only when they absolutely do "person want to do it in Japanese" make contact with contact means such as 2Ch, I admit it. (Also out of the question I ask understands Japanese intervention to others of course) I do not read it shall be deemed also been in touch with non-Japanese, has not been contacted in the first place. Method for contact is because it is written on. Only because I do not have to use other than Japanese, I also have not yet uploaded TESN. This is because the malicious site like writing down there. This MOD, but not limited to, posted to the MOD Lovers Lab of all I've made to refuse. Change, modification, it could have by any application. Lovers Lab is not only the MOD and distributed without permission I have aborted the previous distribution, arbitrary changes, such as translation was carried out. I, the author also of course did not come let me know. In addition, we often hear, etc. from theft or unauthorized reprint without permission of other MOD other. Be posted on the site that it is a thief like this is very uncomfortable, and therefore to refuse resolutely. If that sort of thing has been made arbitrarily, then the MOD to be published publicly, said: abort overall. (Those who do the wrong kind to trouble and say it can not be downloaded ordinary people does not work is the wrong kind of course he has led. Complaint Monk is such a good person speaking) And on the ESP itself: This MOD has been allowed to distribute only where the author has given his own distribution. Web site authors are not allowed to act as a human being recommended by the theft-plagiarism that can be distributed to LoversLab there is not absolutely impossible for the hate to the utmost limit. It is has been stolen without permission not get permission from the author if you downloaded the MOD if this LoversLab. -End of Messages- This seems to imply that we're a bunch of thieving asshats? It seems to imply that he's absolutely enraged because of this too? I thought I might as well bring this up because I'm really confused about what's going on here and it apparently involves the community somehow. These are not translations, the readme included these sections in english, and the ESP itself had it's description in english. I apologise in advance if this is the wrong section to place this in.
gregathit Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Machine translations are pretty crappy and can be incredibly confusing. Not sure what his/her beef is but I would not let it bother you. Who knows why he/she is upset and frankly........who cares.
Guest Donkey Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 I think there is feud going on between 2chen 3dm and loversloab. I know it sounds very negative. If we did do what the author claimed then he should have reported the said mod here and it would have been removed instead. 3dm and 2chen also takes away mods we created here and releases it there in there own forums. Those from Galgat for instance. Some of them have not even ask for permission either. All mods i made translation for are actually only done because said modders made it available anyone could add there own contents or fix bugs to it or translate etc.. 3dm uses some form of pay system before you can download a mod. Witch is also questionnable to say the least... Besides chinese community is known to steal from japanese community allot. Lovers with pk is Japanese. they are more open in who they share there stuff too. I have never transalted any chinese mods. Only Japanese mods.
Avatier Posted April 30, 2012 Author Posted April 30, 2012 Funny, I thought 3DM did the whole cash thing for their forums, which is also slower and harder to access at times. 2-Chan is just a forum board with no such payment since I do tend to follow their threads.
Guest Donkey Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 yes i meant 3dm. Forum or not. You still need to get coins before even downloading.
Kashiwaba Tomoe Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 My two cents: When a modder refuses to allow translation (even if in the form of a patch), it's ok to ignore them as long as you link to the original and use it as a master file, and if they take it down because of a translation patch, then I see nothing wrong at that point with sharing it. I remember back in the day that occurring with some oblivion mods I briefly used, I'd used google translate to ask if there would be any official or approved translation effort of the mod, as the only one I could find seemed to be quite buggy, and instantly got banned (in addition to various racial slurs aimed at me) for asking. The Japanese modding community, in my experience, fits into one of two categories. One category is normal modders, with all the quirks. The other category is extremely xenophobic, sometimes to the point of taking down and ceasing work on a mod if a single non Japanese person gets ahold of it. In my personal opinion: First category, like any modder respect their wishes in how/if you distribute anything aside from a patch that requires you first DL their mod. Second catagory, fuck their wishes. But be polite about it until given reason to be otherwise.
zcomp Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I don't get the extreme hostility and security culture either. What are they afraid of lol? We're all brothers n sisters under the sun no D:?
Kashiwaba Tomoe Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 I don't get the extreme hostility and security culture either. What are they afraid of lol? We're all brothers n sisters under the sun no D:? Japan (I'm assuming it's a jappanese mod team, since this is big with some of them) has a history of xenophobia, which often causes modders to hate their work being used by round eyes.
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