Teasing Devices

[700 Tnega Terces]

I HATE BDSM, pain and humiliation are major turn OFFs for me (see my Playing as an Abolitionist post).  However the point of this post isn't to debate morality, and I equally strongly believe that true tolerance is realizing that others have different opinions without feeling the need to change the other's opinion or one's own.  What I do like, is the idea of being a tease.  So while I don't like the general feel of or idea behind 90% of the Devious Devices, I like the idea of using various devices to tease and torment my spouse/lover/follower into a state of incoherent need, then screwing their brain out.  Bonus points if they are rendered temporarily unconscious from a super-orgasm in regular sex after TD foreplay (that sounds cool, not ridiculous, right?!?).  Thus I'd like to request Teasing Devices.

 

As an add-on to the Devious Devices framework, it would provide a number of Teasing Devices, devices of various shapes and styles designed to tease all the different erogenous zones which a) don't have locks, and can be remote controlled by the PC.  Thus you could, for example, 'equip' your female follower with nipple/breast, clitoral, vaginal, and/or anal simulators (this last should come in a variety of sizes for anal-training.  Come on guys, don't just bend the poor lass over and shove it in, work her up to it gently!) which you can control (independently? If that's not too complicated...) to supply, low, medium, high or random stimulation, then watch her squirm, scream, or even collapse and writhe with pleasure (Warning: prolonged use of a TD has been known to impair cognitive function, especially speech, resulting in incoherent babbling and pleading, as well as standing still and drooling while smiling like an idiot).  If and when you do have sex with her, she'll have multiple orgasms and you both will derive extra pleasure from the act, increasing (double, triple, or variable depending on length of teasing) the effects of any sex buffs you get.  Your partner is also likely to be rendered comatose for a brief period after sex (the complete end of sex, not just after a single act).

 

There, of course, would also need to be logic to support the underling concept of Teasing Devices.  First, remember, there's no locks, the only thing keeping them in place (beyond, you know, straps and such) is the power of your charisma, and the promise of great sex.  Leave your partner hanging to long and they will get mad, take it off, and refuse to have sex with you for a while. They might even take a swing at you (just a single blow with their fist.  They may be mad, but they don't want to kill you...probably...)!  Second, you can make your spouse/lover/follower climax with these devices, so anything that requires sex with them (spouses enhanced, horny followers, etc.  I'm really hoping that said mods can be satisfied just by having the appropriate NPC's sexlab stats edited by this mod) can be satisfied with Teasing Devices.  Also your spouse/lover/follower could use these devices on you (in which case, yes they control the settings), or you can use any TD on yourself!

 

 

 

So, I really could use a LOT of help with this mod.  Does anyone know of any animations (or animators) that would work for this mod?  I've got two different animations I'd like to see.  One 'Frozen Standing Up', where the NPC twitches and moans, barely able to stand, and totally unable to take another step while their body is wracked by a wave of pleasure.  The other is 'Frozen Lying Down', which is just like FSU, but, well, with the NPC lying down.  Both animations should have moaning and twitching/writhing and the option of ending with a powerful climax.

 

 

 

Then there is the arousal aspect, I really need someone to help me with the arousal logic.  Here's the way I see it working, in general terms (and be aware, I know nothing of sex lab's arousal system, or how well what I'm picturing would work with it).  The PC can manually control the TD, in which case if they just stick to low or medium stimulation the NPC will be happy with them and the PC will get a low or medium Speechcraft boost with that NPC.  Furthermore, on medium the NPC will constantly be 'in the mood' for sex, but not ravenously so or driven to distraction.  At most they'll gasp in pleasure occasionally, but it won't be enough, by itself, to make them climax (though if something else was affecting them, like having sex while a TD is running on medium, that would.  During sex a TD on low would make them climax sooner, or repeatedly, but not drive them to it as quickly or sharply as higher settings.  A TD on high during sex, especially multiple TDs, would cause back-to-back orgasms, and ensure temporary post-orgasm-blackout).  A TD on high could drive an NPC to climax all on it's own, if left on long enough.

 

The really tricky bit is establishing the balance between teasing the NPC progressively higher and higher with the TD without leaving them on edge so long they get mad and take it out and possibly hit the PC.  If the NPC hasn't been wearing the device for long when the PC leaves them hanging for too long, the NPC should just take the TD off and refuse sex for a while.  If the PC has been using the TD on the NPC for a while (X game hours, I've no idea what would be reasonable), then the NPC will also punch the PC once for being too much of a tease and not delivering as they promised.  In counter to this, the more times the PC brings the NPC up to the edge and then back down again, the more times the NPC will bring the PC to climax (while simultaneously climaxing themselves) when they do have sex and the more any sex buffs will be boosted (is the boosted buffs easy/reasonable to implement?) and the more extra points the NPC will gain for mods like spouses enhanced (a secondary goal after the basic mod is working).  Or if the PC uses the TD to finally bring the NPC to climax, the more times the NPC will climax (and gain the extra points for mods like spouses enhanced).  If there is anyone who knows a lot about sex lab arousal and sex buffs, I could really use their help.

 

There should also be three different random modes: random steady, which just fluctuates between low and medium stimulation, random peak, which includes high and automates the process of teasing the NPC to enhance the final sex act, and random climax, which, as it's name implies, will tease like random peak, but will also occasionally go all the way and drive the NPC to climax.  Teasing Devices are smart and can tell if multiple units are being used on the same subject and adjust their settings such that their effects don't stack.  Having two TDs on low produces the same arousal stimulation as a single TD on low.  If multiple TDs are on different settings, the subject's arousal will be dictated by the level of highest stimulation from any one device.  The exception to this rule is that high stimulation, which counts independently for each erogenous zone.  So if the subject was experiencing high stimulation from one TD which switched back to medium or low before they could climax as another TD moved up to high stimulation, then their arousal would drop down a bit before climbing back up towards climax again.  However this dip would not be enough to give an NPC true relief from over stimulation and could still result in them removing all devices in frustration and possibly attacking the PC.

 

 

 

It seems to me that the best way to implement my Teasing Devices is to use the same method as Devious Devices, but with different effects.  I'd really like for any TD to be capable of all three random modes as well as manual control.  Of course, one would have to do something to 'sync' the manual control spell with the TD devices.  What about two different spells.  One would be a single target projectile spell, the other an area of effect projectile spell (maybe also in multiple ranges).  Everyone hit by the targeting projectile spells who's wearing TDs gets their devices synced with the PC's controller spell.  There could then be a controller spell with options for the three modes, as well as master stimulation level option that set all devices to stimulate at a selectable level, or a secondary page that lets one set individual controller levels or random modes based on erogenous zones (I've given some thought to doing this while keeping everything simple and only running one script once per actor, here's what I've come up with: the slot for any TD device has a rank, - breasts 1, clit 2, vagina 3, butt 4.  If there are multiple TDs, only the highest ranked TD runs its script - the rest all do a test, see that a higher ranked TD is installed, and exit without doing anything.  Stimulation modes also have a ranking: 1 manual, 2 random climax, 3 random peak, 4 random stable.  The highest ranked active stimulation mode is the mode that affect the actor's arousal, the rest are ignored.  If two or more devices are in the same mode and generating the same level of stimulation, the effects stack, but no so much as to produce medium level simulation effects from all low stimulation, or high from medium.  In general, follow this rule of thumb: whenever things start getting complex, figure out what you can ignore to make it simple again!).  Again, I've no idea if and how this could actually work, so someone who knows something about DD and modding would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

I don't have a working PC at the moment, or for the near future, which is why I'm requesting help with this mod.  If someone wants to do the whole thing, great, I'd be forever grateful.  If, however, you just feel like tackling one of the issue I raised above, or even one portion of an issue, that would be awesome as well!  Whatever you can do and however much you can, I'll be forever grateful!  I'll break the mod down into small bites if anyone feels like tackling any of them:

• Frozen Standing Up animation (with sound)
• Frozen Lying Down animation (with sound)
• FSU Climax (with sound)
• FLD Climax (with sound)
• Speechcraft boost from Low Stimulation
• Dialogue comments for Low Stimulation (here NPC should be trying to play it cool and ignore the TD)
• Speechcraft boost from Medium Stimulation
• Dialogue comments for Medium Stimulation (including gasps, innuendos, and out right offers)
• Dialogue for giving NPC TD device(s) (just putting them in their inventory is not enough, you must convince them to put them on.)
• NPC mad, remove TD - Dialogue and action
• NPC mad, remove TD and hit PC - Dialogue and action
• Method for syncing PC controller spell with single NPC
• Method for syncing PC controller spell with self
• Method for syncing PC controller spell with multiple NPCs
• (?) Method for syncing NPC controller spell with single NPC
• Method for syncing NPC controller spell with self
• (?) Method for syncing NPC controller spell with multiple NPCs
• (?) Dialogue for instructing NPC with controller spell (you should only be able to tell them what random mode to use on another NPC, and not anything for yourself).
• Low Stimulation <-> sexlab arousal implementation for single or multiple devices
• Medium Stimulation <-> sexlab arousal implementation for single or multiple devices
• High Stimulation <-> sexlab arousal implementation for single or multiple devices
• Random steady mode implementation outside of sex
• Random peak mode implementation outside of sex
• Random climax mode implementation outside of sex
• Random steady mode implementation during sex
• Random peak mode implementation during sex
• Random climax mode implementation during sex
• Sex buff boost implementation
• Level of boosting to apply (based on number of peaks before sex/climax)
• (?) NPC mod effect sync (spouses enhanced, horny followers, etc.)
• Method to insure TD code only runs once per actor (suggest following points)
• TD location rank implementation
• Simulation Mode rank implementation

Items marked with (?) are very low priority and should be left for last.

 

[Jayleia]

While I love BDSM and REALLY love non-con forcible stuff in games...this also sounds like a lot of fun.  You can get the assets for such a mod just using the "non-devious devious devices" posted recently, since I think that they do everything but lock.  I'd encourage the DDi coders to add more "kinky-play" options in future updates.

 

However, you'd still need a separate mod to control the behavior and dialogues of your partner that's enduring(enjoying?) the extended tease session.

 

Although...the idea of teasing them to unconsciousness seems a bit past BDSM and close to the non-con stuff.

[700 Tnega Terces]

 

Although...the idea of teasing them to unconsciousness seems a bit past BDSM and close to the non-con stuff.

 

 

No, no, the unconsciousness is only caused by super-orgasms from regular sex after TD foreplay!

 

Oh, and I'm glad you like my idea too!  The more people that do, the more likely it is to happen!

[Dreamweaver]

Non-Devious Devices is my mod, but the devices in it are nothing more than standard clothing and jewellery items. They don't lock, vibrate, inflate, arouse, or anything else by themselves, except for a few that use some Zaz effects.

 

There are lots of features built in to Devious Devices that can make pretty good teasing items, though. It's all about what keywords and enchantments you use. For example, you can make a very effective teasing plug or piercing with the keywords linked, very lively, vibrating very strong, and always edges. With a matching enchantment attached the resulting item will vibrate often, very powerfully, and always stop, not allowing the wearer to orgasm. For an extra thrill, add electro stim and it will sometimes shock her back down to low arousal before repeating the process. Changing always edges to edge random will also add some extra unpredictability, so sometimes it will stop her short, sometimes shock her down, and sometimes buzz her over into climax.

 

If you want it to be a non-locking device, though, it would need a custom script I think. Dasha's Devious Toys has vaginal and anal plugs that don't need a chastity belt to hold them in, so they stay in until you take them out, which you can do whenever you like. Sadly, development seems to have long since stopped for that mod.

 

A teasing mod is definitely a good idea, and one that I wouldn't mind slotting in to my game right beside the multitude of heavy BDSM mods I'll still be using and loving

[700 Tnega Terces]

Non-Devious Devices is my mod, but the devices in it are nothing more than standard clothing and jewellery items. They don't lock, vibrate, inflate, arouse, or anything else by themselves, except for a few that use some Zaz effects.

 

There are lots of features built in to Devious Devices that can make pretty good teasing items, though. It's all about what keywords and enchantments you use. For example, you can make a very effective teasing plug or piercing with the keywords linked, very lively, vibrating very strong, and always edges. With a matching enchantment attached the resulting item will vibrate often, very powerfully, and always stop, not allowing the wearer to orgasm. For an extra thrill, add electro stim and it will sometimes shock her back down to low arousal before repeating the process. Changing always edges to edge random will also add some extra unpredictability, so sometimes it will stop her short, sometimes shock her down, and sometimes buzz her over into climax.

 

If you want it to be a non-locking device, though, it would need a custom script I think. Dasha's Devious Toys has vaginal and anal plugs that don't need a chastity belt to hold them in, so they stay in until you take them out, which you can do whenever you like. Sadly, development seems to have long since stopped for that mod.

 

A teasing mod is definitely a good idea, and one that I wouldn't mind slotting in to my game right beside the multitude of heavy BDSM mods I'll still be using and loving

 

The stuff you talk about with the DD enchantments is 'similar' to what I want, but not quite there.  For one thing, I'm anti-pain as well as anti-humiliation, so I very much dislike the idea of using 'electro stim' to shock my partner back down from the edge.  For another, while a random mode that took care of itself would be nice, I'd also like to be able to actively control the device's settings.  Most importantly, this is a fore-play-to-sex (possibly with the toy itself, true) device with the clear expectation of great sex at the end (hence the "Enough already!  I'll rip this out and beat you with it if you don't satisfy me right NOW!"), and not as a device to hold her endlessly on the edge.

 

Again, if all you hardcore BDSM'ers like my idea to, great!  My desktop PC is down, so I can't do this mod (not for the near future, at the very least), plus I have lots of other stuff I want to do, hence the mod request to anyone who knows enough already to be able to throw this together.

[700 Tnega Terces]

Just thought of a great new Teasing Device (I suppose it would make a good Devious Device toy/enchantment as well): Ben Wa Balls.  Just give them to your follower, then ask her to please keep up with you!  Or, in general, a device that stimulates whenever the wearer moves, with its intensity matched to their movement.  Creep - low stimulation, Walk - medium stimulation, Jog/Run - High stimulation!

[700 Tnega Terces]

So, I really could use a LOT of help with this mod.  Does anyone know of any animations (or animators) that would work for this mod?  I've got two different animations I'd like to see.  One 'Frozen Standing Up', where the NPC twitches and moans, barely able to stand, and totally unable to take another step while their body is wracked by a wave of pleasure.  The other is 'Frozen Lying Down', which is just like FSU, but, well, with the NPC lying down.  Both animations should have moaning and twitching/writhing and the option of ending with a powerful climax.

 

 

 

Then there is the arousal aspect, I really need someone to help me with the arousal logic.  Here's the way I see it working, in general terms (and be aware, I know nothing of sex lab's arousal system, or how well what I'm picturing would work with it).  The PC can manual control the TD, in which case if they just stick to low or medium stimulation the NPC will be happy with them and the PC will get a low or medium speechcraft boost with that NPC.  Furthermore, on medium the NPC will constantly be 'in the mood' for sex, but not ravenously so or driven to distraction.  At most they'll gasp in pleasure occasionally, but it won't be enough, by itself, to make them climax (though if something else was affecting them, like having sex while a TD is running on medium, that would.  During sex a TD on low would make them climax sooner, or repeatedly, but not drive them to it as quickly or sharply as higher settings.  A TD on high during sex, especially multiple TDs, would cause back-to-back orgasms, and ensure temporary post-orgasm-blackout).  A TD on high could drive an NPC to climax all on it's own, if left on long enough.

 

The really tricky bit is establishing the balance between teasing the NPC progressively higher and higher with the TD without leaving them on edge so long they get mad and take it out and possibly hit the PC.  If the NPC hasn't been wearing the device for long when the PC leaves them hanging for too long, the NPC should just take the TD off and refuse sex for a while.  If the PC has been using the TD on the NPC for a while (X game hours, I've no idea what would be reasonable), then the NPC will also punch the PC once for being too much of a tease and not delivering as they promised.  In counter to this, the more times the PC brings the NPC up to the edge and then back down again, the more times the NPC will bring the PC to climax (while simultaneously climaxing themselves) when they do have sex and the more any sex buffs will be boosted (is the boosted buffs easy/reasonable to implement?) and the more extra points the NPC will gain for mods like spouses enhanced (a secondary goal after the basic mod is working).  Or if the PC uses the TD to finally bring the NPC to climax, the more times the NPC will climax (and gain the extra points for mods like spouses enhanced).  If there is anyone who knows a lot about sex lab arousal and sex buffs, I could really use their help.

 

There should also be three different random modes: random steady, which just fluctuates between low and medium stimulation, random peak, which includes high and automates the process of teasing the NPC to enhance the final sex act, and random climax, which, as it's name implies, will tease like random peak, but will also occasionally go all the way and drive the NPC to climax.  Teasing Devices are smart and can tell if multiple units are being used on the same subject and adjust their settings such that their effects don't stack.  Having two TDs on low produces the same arousal stimulation as a single TD on low.  If multiple TDs are on different settings, the subject's arousal will be dictated by the level of highest stimulation from any one device.  The exception to this rule is that high stimulation, which counts independently for each erogenous zone.  So if the subject was experience high stimulation from one TD which switched back to medium or low before they could climax as another TD moved up to high stimulation, then their arousal would drop down a bit before climbing back up towards climax again.  However this dip would not be enough to give an NPC true relief from over stimulation and could still result in them removing all devices in frustration and possibly attacking the PC.

 

 

 

It seems to me that the best way to implement my Teasing Devices is to use the same method as Devious Devices, but with different effects.  I'd really like for any TD to be capable of all three random modes as well as manual control.  Of course, one would have to do something to 'sync' the manual control spell with the TD devices.  What about two different spells.  One would be a single target projectile spell, the other an area of effect projectile spell (maybe also in multiple ranges).  Everyone hit by the spell who's wearing TDs gets their devices synced with the PC's controller spell.  There could then be a controller spell with options for the three modes, as well as master stimulation level option that set all devices to stimulate at a selectable level, or a secondary page that lets one set individual controller levels or random modes based on erogenous zones (note that individualized random modes would work together for all erogenous zones, with any TDs on random peak taking precedence - actually controlling - the subjects arousal level even if there are some on random steady, and random climax taking precedence - actually controlling - the subjects arousal level and ignoring any lower random levels.  Manual control similarly takes precedence over all random modes.  In general, whenever things start getting complex, figure out what you can ignore to make it simple again!).  Again, I've no idea if and how this could actually work, so someone who knows something about DD and modding would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

I don't have a working PC at the moment, or for the near future, which is why I'm requesting help with this mod.  If someone wants to do the whole thing, great, I'd be forever grateful.  If, however, you just feel like tackling one of the issue I raised above, or even one portion of an issue (a projectile spell that registers a TD for the controller spell, for example), that would be awesome as well!  Whatever you can do and however much you can, I'll be forever grateful!

[700 Tnega Terces]

 

There are lots of features built in to Devious Devices that can make pretty good teasing items, though. It's all about what keywords and enchantments you use. For example, you can make a very effective teasing plug or piercing with the keywords linked, very lively, vibrating very strong, and always edges. With a matching enchantment attached the resulting item will vibrate often, very powerfully, and always stop, not allowing the wearer to orgasm. For an extra thrill, add electro stim and it will sometimes shock her back down to low arousal before repeating the process. Changing always edges to edge random will also add some extra unpredictability, so sometimes it will stop her short, sometimes shock her down, and sometimes buzz her over into climax.

 

If you want it to be a non-locking device, though, it would need a custom script I think. Dasha's Devious Toys has vaginal and anal plugs that don't need a chastity belt to hold them in, so they stay in until you take them out, which you can do whenever you like. Sadly, development seems to have long since stopped for that mod.

 

You seem to know a lot about DD and how it works, could you help me at all with any of the bullet points in my OP?!?  Please?!?

[Dreamweaver]

You seem to know a lot about DD and how it works, could you help me at all with any of the bullet points in my OP?!?  Please?!?

 

I would like to help but it's unlikely I can do anything. I can make my own versions of devices that use the devious framework, but I'm afraid making new features, meshes, textures, animations, code or scripts is out of my league at the moment.

[Eatos]

i really,really like this idea. i hope you get all the support you need