Nihtantuel Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 So the thing is when I started the game everything was working perfectly, never had a single issues with Lovers, all animations worked. Then quite abruptly half the time all I see is my character and an NPC clipping inside each other and no animations whatsoever. Its totally random: no animations with one NPC, then with the next one it is fine, then when I return to the first one it works fine as well and then with the third one it doesn't work. I have no idea what might be the reason, I haven't installed any more mods ever since it was working fine, I didn't add any Lovers mods to the bashed patch and all the rest of it. Something just suddenly broke. If I recall correctly it first occured immediately after I advanced in the Lovers Hooker quest. Don't know if that can be any indication or help to get to the bottom of it in any way. Any idea about what could have suddenly gone wrong?
gregathit Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Please read: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Most problems can be diagnosed and solved by just posting your load order. I don't know if lovers hooker was ever updated to use the LAPF. It could be a simple issue of the plugin calling for an animation that doesn't exist. You can check this quite simply by hitting the console key (~) and noting the animation that has been called when the animation appears broken. Then exit the game and see if you have both the ini file and kf files for that animation. If you do have both, then it is another plugin that is messing things up. If you do not have the ini AND kf files (you must have both) then you can either add them via the daedra sutra or you can edit the lovers hooker esp file to use a different animation. Cheers, Greg
Nihtantuel Posted December 11, 2015 Author Posted December 11, 2015 Here goes the load order 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [версия 1.36] 03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [версия 5.0] 04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [версия 5.0] 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [версия 1.35Beta] 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [версия 3.8b1] 07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [версия 0.9.9MB8b1] 08 Better Cities Resources.esm [версия 6.0.5] 09 Lovers with PK.esm 0A LoversCreature.esm 0B CM Partners.esm 0C POTSB.esm 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [версия 3.4.2] 0E UOPS Additional Changes.esp 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [версия 1.5.1] 11 Better Cities .esp [версия 6.0.5] 12 Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [версия 5.0] 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [версия 5.0] 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [версия 5.0] 15 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [версия 5.0] 16 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [версия 5.0] ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [версия 0.9.9MB8b1] ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [версия 0.9.9MB8b1] 17 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [версия 0.9.9MB8b1] 18 All Natural.esp [версия 1.36] 19 All Natural - SI.esp [версия 1.36] ++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [версия 1.3] 1A Immersive Interiors.esp [версия 0.8.1] 1B AddActorValues_example.esp 1C DLCHorseArmor.esp 1D DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [версия 1.0.7] 1E DLCOrrery.esp 1F DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [версия 1.0.5] 20 DLCVileLair.esp 21 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [версия 1.0.8] 22 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 23 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [версия 1.0.6] 24 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [версия 1.0.1] 25 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 26 SentientWeapon.esp [версия 3] 27 VipCxjHHTest.esp 28 DLCThievesDen.esp 29 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [версия 1.0.11] 2A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [версия 1.0.11] 2B Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 2C Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 2D FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [версия 0.9.9MB8b1] 2E Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [версия 1.09] 2F FCOM_WarCry.esp [версия 0.9.9MB8b1] 30 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [версия 1.35Beta] 31 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp 32 OOOEquipmentAddon.esp 33 FCOM_Convergence.esp [версия 0.9.9Mb8b1] ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [версия 0.9.9beta2] 34 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [версия 0.9.9MB8] 35 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [версия 3.8b1] 36 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [версия 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [версия 3.8b1] 37 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [версия 3.7b7] 38 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [версия 3.8b1] 39 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp [версия 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp 3A Mart's Monster Mod - Mummies.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [версия 3.8b1] 3B 7roads.esp 3C BladeOfTheHaunted.esp [версия 3.1] 3D (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp 3E Haunted_House_v1.5.esp 3F Hentai Mania.esp 40 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [версия 2.18] 41 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp 42 KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp 43 GTAesgaard.esp 44 POTSB.esp 45 SMChorrol.esp [версия 1.0] 46 Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp 47 DLCFrostcrag.esp 48 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [версия 1.0.7] 49 Knights.esp 4A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [версия 1.1.2] 4B Fall of the Ayleids.esp [версия 4.1] 4C TOTF.esp ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [версия 0.9.9MB8b1] 4D HeartOftheDead.esp [версия 6.5] 4E KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp [версия 1.1] 4F HentaiMania2.esp ++ HentaiMania2_Merged_Nightmare.esp 50 Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion.esp ++ Lush & Gaudy Aurora Borealis.esp ++ Prox - Arena Loot v1.1.esp ++ Red's Weightless Arrows.esp 51 LoversRaperS.esp 52 LoversHooker.esp [версия 2.2a] 53 Lovers with PK.esp [версия 96v5] 54 LoversCreature.esp 55 Alternative Beginnings.esp [версия 1.4.3] 56 Oblivion XP.esp 57 Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp 58 CM Partners.esp 59 Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 5A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 5B X.Races.Comp.esp 5C CM Partners Special NPCs.esp 5D CM Partners NPC.esp 5E CM Partners NPC NE.esp 5F CM Partners More NPCs.esp 60 CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp 61 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp 62 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 63 Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp 64 Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp [версия 6.0.4] 65 Better Cities BRAVIL.esp [версия 6.0.5] 66 Better Cities ANVIL.esp [версия 6.0.4] 67 Better Cities CHORROL.esp [версия 6.0.4] 68 Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp [версия 6.0.4] 69 Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp [версия 6.0.4] 6A Better Cities BRUMA.esp [версия 6.0.3] 6B Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp [версия 6.0.0] 6C Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp [версия 6.0.0] 6D Better Cities IC Arena.esp [версия 6.0.0] 6E Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp [версия 6.0.0] 6F Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp [версия 6.0.0] 70 Better Cities IC Market.esp [версия 6.0.0] 71 Better Cities IC Prison.esp [версия 6.0.0] 72 Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp [версия 6.0.0] 73 Better Cities IC Temple.esp [версия 6.0.0] 74 Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp [версия 6.0.0] 75 Better Cities IC Waterfront FPS Patch.esp [версия 6.0.0] 76 Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp [версия 6.0.4] 77 Better Cities - All Natural.esp [версия 6.0.4] 78 Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp [версия 6.0.4] 79 Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp [версия 6.0.0] ++ FCOM_BetterCities-Bravil.esp [версия 6.0.0] 7A UVIII.esp ++ HM2SummonCompatible.esp ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [версия 1.36] ++ Mass Outfit Redesign.esp ++ Sexy Robes And Hats.esp ++ Weightless Ingredients.esp ++ Weightless Ingredients SI.esp 7B Bashed Patch, 0.esp 7C LoversMB2.esp 7D LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 7E LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp I did a bit of testing and found out the following: - 2 animations that didn't work for some characters (females) where 180 and 170 (was doing female on female). But then I walked to a couple more characters and both of those worked fine. I checked and I have all the required files for those. - nothing ever works on female guards (I am using LoversHooker functionality on them). I have Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion, if that may be something which is the reson for it being broken. - if I start sex with a male right after a guard it breaks, if I do it after another lesbian animation which worked, the one with a male works fine. None of this brought me any closer to understanding what may be the reason for some of it being broken.
gregathit Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Colorwheels mods have heavy use of custom idles. Try moving all of her stuff up above all your lovers mods, then disable all lovers stuff and rebuild your bashed patch. Then re-enable the lovers plugins and start a new game to test if the guards and the animations start working. Also, check to make sure that all 8 kf files for each animation are present and that you have an ini file for each. The load order helps folks to spot if there are any obvious conflicts. In your case, I don't see any that jump out at me. Basically, any plugin that regularly calls out animations can potentially break Lovers. You can only perform one animation at a time, so if an animation is playing and a script fires that calls for another animation, bang, you are broken.
Nihtantuel Posted December 18, 2015 Author Posted December 18, 2015 looks like I've managed to find the conflicting mod. it was Unnecessary Violence III. No idea why it is conflicting, even though it adds a bunch of animations and such, and why it stopped working suddenly and started conflicting. i don't really see how it can interfere. But turning it off and rebuilding the patch did the trick and now everything works fine. Well good riddance.
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