Dars3 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 I talked to Vilkas as I always do to finish the C04 Blood's Honor quest, but this time C05 Purity of Revenge didn't start. I've been googling for answers and trying possible solutions and nothing worked. I haven't even discovered Driftshade Refuge or started the Helm of Winterhold yet. I tried the setstage command, but no matter what I do the quest stage is always the same. I tried resetAI, disabling and enabling Vilkas, or any other companions in Jorrvaskr, but nothing. I even tried resetting the Driftshade Refuge interior in case something might have happened there. I loaded a previous save where I was doing C03, finished both that one and C04 and I still didn't get C05. Any help will be really appreciated. Thank you for your time. Load Order Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp hdtHighHeel.esm SexLab.esm CreatureFramework.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp SkyUI.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp WATER DG + DB.esp GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Dead Body Collision.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Gwelda Armor Pack.esp FNISspells.esp VLCollisionFix.esp throneroom.esp XPMSE.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp MikanEyes All in one.esp BVFE_Serana.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Immersive detection of NPC.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLabDefeat.esp EstrusChaurus.esp Vampirelordroyal.esp WATER Plants.esp Imaginator BETA.esp LustmordVampireArmor.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp HelmetToggle2.02b.esp Requiem.esp Requiem - USKP + UDGP.esp Requiem - Hearthfire.esp Requiem ECE Patch.esp Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp Requiem Immersive Detection Patch.esp Requiem - EstrusChaurus.esp Better Vampires.esp BVandRB_Formlist.esp Predator Vision.esp Requiem - Better Vampires Patch.esp Requiem for the Indifferent.esp I'm using Mod Organizer v1.3.11, and I have the utilities: - SKSE v1.7.3; - FNIS v5.5; - Bodyslide 2 and Outfit Studio v2.8; - Requiem v1.9.2 (SkyProc Patcher). Papyrus.0.log
Thenryb Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 When that has happened to me (not often) it is because I had some unfinished radiant quest, such as recovering the Helm of Winterhold, which was located in the Driftshade Refuge.
Dars3 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Posted October 18, 2015 When that has happened to me (not often) it is because I had some unfinished radiant quest, such as recovering the Helm of Winterhold, which was located in the Driftshade Refuge. Right, that's what I keep reading in older posts, everyone having some quest in Driftshade Refuge. But I don't have any. That place is not even marked on my map yet.
Thenryb Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 When that has happened to me (not often) it is because I had some unfinished radiant quest, such as recovering the Helm of Winterhold, which was located in the Driftshade Refuge. Right, that's what I keep reading in older posts, everyone having some quest in Driftshade Refuge. But I don't have any. That place is not even marked on my map yet. Yes, I know you said that in your OP but thought I would throw it out anyway. From what I can tell there are only two possible quests which lead to that location-the one you cannot trigger and as an alternate location for Helm of Winterhold. Vilkas is so damn buggy anyway. I have had to restart "Proving your worth" many times because after returning to Vilkas he did not lead me to Kodlak to be "initiated" and purging the werewolf quests would break if you talked to him first. I see nothing in your load order which would have any possible effect on that quest. Sorry I cannot be of more help.
Dars3 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Posted October 18, 2015 When that has happened to me (not often) it is because I had some unfinished radiant quest, such as recovering the Helm of Winterhold, which was located in the Driftshade Refuge. Right, that's what I keep reading in older posts, everyone having some quest in Driftshade Refuge. But I don't have any. That place is not even marked on my map yet. Yes, I know you said that in your OP but thought I would throw it out anyway. From what I can tell there are only two possible quests which lead to that location-the one you cannot trigger and as an alternate location for Helm of Winterhold. Vilkas is so damn buggy anyway. I have had to restart "Proving your worth" many times because after returning to Vilkas he did not lead me to Kodlak to be "initiated" and purging the werewolf quests would break if you talked to him first. I see nothing in your load order which would have any possible effect on that quest. Sorry I cannot be of more help. Really weird, isn't it? Still, thank you for the help. It's like there's nothing wrong but it's still bugged. That's why I'm so clueless. I'm now picking an even older save and do the Companions questline all over again. Let's see where this goes.
Dars3 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Posted October 18, 2015 I just did all the Companions quests up to Blood's Honor again, and I'm still missing Purity of Revenge. I don't know what else to try... What else can I do? Is the new Unofficial Skyrim Patch still working well with the Companions questline?
Dars3 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Posted October 19, 2015 Okay, this is getting really weird. I tried starting a new game with only these mods, Load Order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp SkyUI.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp WATER DG + DB.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp WATER Plants.esp GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Imaginator BETA.esp And I'm still getting the same bug. Has anyone tried doing the Companions quesline with the latest version of the Unofficial Patches (2.1.3b)? I don't see anything else that could affect this quest.
Thenryb Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 I suppose you have already tried this but here is a post I found: "Got the same problem and i found this, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Purity_of_Revenge#Bugs, a bug where the quest won't start beacause of the status of another quest. Edit: I finally got this to work. I'm not 100% sure what happend. But my initial problem was that I already had cleared the quest dungeon , Driftshade Refuge. So the quest did not start. When I first didn't find any solution to this i just kept playing, and eventually i ended up in Winterhold and got the quest to fetch the helmet from the Jarl of Winterhold. Then i traveled to the dungeon again and all enemies had respawn (This is probably due to the fact that enemies respawn after 30 in-game days according to the wiki) and just rushed trough the dungeon and got the helmet, left the dungeon, handed in the helmet to the Jarl, then tried to start the Companion quest by console: player.setstage c06 0 <-- Initiates Skyforge burial And that worked =) I know this poster had the Helm quest which you do not have.
Dars3 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Posted October 19, 2015 Yes, I tried that too. But I couldn't get it to work for different reasons. "player.setstage c06 0" does work and I get the "Glory of the Dead" quest. The only issue is that, while all the actors are teleported to the funeral, they're behaving exactly like they were before. Farkas is still busy, Aela still saying "These two aren't a problem anymore" and Vilkas still acting like nothing every happened. I read somewhere that it works if I reset all the characters, but disable and enable does nothing to them. Characters like Torvar can easily be resetted if I kill and resurrect them. But Farkas, Aela and Vilkas won't die even if I try the "setessential <ID> 0" command. I also read that this happens because it's a quest giving them the essential flag. I did mess with CK and TES5Edit for a while, but I don't have enough knowledge to go that far. I soon gave up on it. I've now been trying to start new games with different combinations of mods to check which one is causing this bug. But the way things are going, I'm starting to consider reinstalling the game. It's either the latest version of the unofficial patches, or something wrong with the game itself or Mod Organizer.
Thenryb Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 I have not been motivated to learn MO and simply use Wrye for Skyrim. It could have something to do with the latest unofficial patches. I wish someone besides me would weigh in on the matter. You have already tried everything I would know to try. I do not suppose you have tried the fix here: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/4373/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D4373%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D505497&pUp=1 This looks obsolete, but might be worth trying before you do anything so radical as a reinstall. I use those unofficial patches but have had issues with some versions in the past-eg not getting the Courier to deliver the note from Falk Firebeard which starts the Ptoema quest. I used to have to disable the patch and reenable it after I got the note.
Dars3 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Posted October 20, 2015 I have not been motivated to learn MO and simply use Wrye for Skyrim. It could have something to do with the latest unofficial patches. I wish someone besides me would weigh in on the matter. You have already tried everything I would know to try. I do not suppose you have tried the fix here: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/4373/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D4373%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D505497&pUp=1 This looks obsolete, but might be worth trying before you do anything so radical as a reinstall. I use those unofficial patches but have had issues with some versions in the past-eg not getting the Courier to deliver the note from Falk Firebeard which starts the Ptoema quest. I used to have to disable the patch and reenable it after I got the note. I've never used Wrye. I've always used NMM. But I read people recommending MO so much that I decided to try it this time. I took some time learn how to use, but now I see it's much easier with MO when you have bugs and you need to find the right mod. Okay, I just tested that fix and it doesn't work either. It seems to be simply reviving the Silver Hand leader. I traveled to Driftshade Refugee, checked the whole place and they're all alive, including the leader. But I've finally made some progress! I started a new game with only SKSE and SkyUI, and I was finally able to reproduce a transition from Blood's Honor to Purity of Revenge with no bugs. When I added the unofficial patches to the list of mods (with the right load order), it stopped working again. So yes, it really seems to be the patches. I won't have to reinstall the game. I'll probably just leave the Companions quest as it is and wait for a future update. Hopefully I won't have this issue with the next version. I'd disable them and enable like you said, but I'm afraid it will affect Requiem and cause even more bugs.
Coopervane Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I can't help think the USKP has introduced an issue there recently. I had to scrub a save about a week ago because of the same quest. It did start for me, but unfortunately, the very first Silverhand i encountered inside the keep was unkillable. And i don't just mean set to essential, essential char's will atleast lose health when you hit them and go into the bleed-out stance if you hit them enough, no, this bugger woulden't lose any health nomatter what you threw at him, and even the "kill" console command coulden't do anything. The USKP is the only mod i have installed that has any effect on the Companions quest and the Silverhand, so, i'm thinking the CK may have snuck in a bug there with recent versions.
Dars3 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Posted October 20, 2015 I can't help think the USKP has introduced an issue there recently. I had to scrub a save about a week ago because of the same quest. It did start for me, but unfortunately, the very first Silverhand i encountered inside the keep was unkillable. And i don't just mean set to essential, essential char's will atleast lose health when you hit them and go into the bleed-out stance if you hit them enough, no, this bugger woulden't lose any health nomatter what you threw at him, and even the "kill" console command coulden't do anything. The USKP is the only mod i have installed that has any effect on the Companions quest and the Silverhand, so, i'm thinking the CK may have snuck in a bug there with recent versions. Are you using version 2.1.3b too?
Coopervane Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Are you using version 2.1.3b too? I was using the USKP version just prior to 2.1.3b when i ran into the unkillable Silverhand bug. I'm using 2.1.3b now since i had to start a new game anyway, but seeing how the Companions questline nuked my game the last time, i've been reluctant to start that questline this time around
Dars3 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Posted October 20, 2015 Are you using version 2.1.3b too? I was using the USKP version just prior to 2.1.3b when i ran into the unkillable Silverhand bug. I'm using 2.1.3b now since i had to start a new game anyway, but seeing how the Companions questline nuked my game the last time, i've been reluctant to start that questline this time around Hmm, I see. Well, I just posted on their Nexus topic asking for help. Let's see what they say about it. For now I'll just leave Blood's Honor untouched.
Thenryb Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 You might have better luck using the bug-tracker link in the description to report the bug. I am glad that someone else pitched in on this thread and confirmed a potential problem with the unofficial patch. I read your post in the Nexus topic. You will probably get "Helm of Winterhold" replies like mine since you did not mention that as a non-issue in your game. I always do that questline myself, although it is rather boring (like most of Skyrim imo). There is so much of that game I just refuse to do, such as Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Cigna Mine and almost all of the Deadric quests, and that one is at least tolerable for me.
Dars3 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Posted October 20, 2015 You might have better luck using the bug-tracker link in the description to report the bug. I am glad that someone else pitched in on this thread and confirmed a potential problem with the unofficial patch. I read your post in the Nexus topic. You will probably get "Helm of Winterhold" replies like mine since you did not mention that as a non-issue in your game. I always do that questline myself, although it is rather boring (like most of Skyrim imo). There is so much of that game I just refuse to do, such as Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Cigna Mine and almost all of the Deadric quests, and that one is at least tolerable for me. I first thought of using the bug tracker, but it isn't working at the moment. There's only a temporary topic right now, and it seem to be filled with people who already know exactly what the bugs they're going to report are. So I ended up just posting on the Nexus. But I did say "I don't have the Helm of Winterhold quest and I've never been to Driftshade Refugee". I didn't mention that I tried console commands, but as a very experienced team fixing these sort of bugs, I'm hoping they'll have an idea what can be causing this bug. Arthmoor, for example, seems to be very active on the forums. Well it is not my favorite questline either, but it's always the first one I do because they force me to become a werewolf. And I always do it before I start Dawnguard and become a Vampire Lord for the rest of the game. And thank you both for the replies. I really appreciate it.
Thenryb Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I see you did mention the Winterhold Helm issue. I need to learn to read more carefully. Generally, it appears you exhausted all avenues available for help before posting and I hope a solution is found for you.
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