rabie125 Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 hi, i have been having a problem were when i enter the Dasek Moor Maleboge and get deeper in i find a minotaur female laying on a bed or such when i go to start the fight or take any action my game always crashes in that place (more likely when she move) els if she dont move while am pointing my screen at her it doesnt crash but sooner or later she will hit me and the game crashes, i thought i might be missing something but am not sure what it could be exactly and i was told to show my load order so here it is Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Lovers with PK.esm 03 BreakUndies.esm 04 LoversCreature.esm 05 CM Partners.esm 06 Oblivion Vwalk.esp 07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 08 DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp 09 DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp 0A Female Lich.esp 0B Water Nymphs.esp 0C VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 0D homura outfit HGEC.esp 0E IrohaClothes.esp 0F LadyDeath.esp 10 SPB Oppai Sensei.esp 11 VipCxjHHTest.esp 12 Slof's Horses Base.esp 13 Slof's Extra Horses.esp 14 CurseOfHircine.esp 15 LBUndeadAdditions.esp 16 Abriael_Human.esp 17 BridFetishGirl.esp 18 BridFetishGirlTrainerAddon.esp 19 Knights.esp 1A Knights Vwalk.esp 1B Nude Humanlike Spriggan Tweaked.esp 1C LoversFSE.esp 1D LoversRapeman.esp 1E LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 1F LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 20 LoversRaperS.esp 21 LoversRaperSGalgat.esp 22 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 94] 23 LoversBitch.esp 24 LoversCreature.esp 25 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 26 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp 27 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp 28 LoversBrothel.esp 29 Diplomacy and Mercy.esp 2A SetBody.esp 2B cidnothumpMMversion.esp 2C HTHAdvanced - Normal.esp 2D HTHAdvanced - Sinkpoint.esp 2E Chain it!.esp 2F Specialanims.esp 30 CM Partners.esp 31 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp 32 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 33 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 34 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp 35 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 36 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 37 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp 38 CM Partners NPC.esp 39 CM Partners More NPCs.esp 3A CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp 3B CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 3C ABCompilation_APN.esp 3D cidnothump.esp 3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp 3F LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 40 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 41 ABCompilation.esp 42 Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp 43 yangyang_shoes.esp 44 yangyang_Oneytia.esp 45 aion_rose.esp 46 Schwertleite Armor BU.esp 47 ArgentArmorBreakDMGUTS.esp 48 CaptiveMaiden.esp 49 LoversHooker.esp 4A Bridal_clothes.esp 4B LoversSummonRapeman.esp 4C Female Xivilai.esp 4D BlackLolita.esp 4E momomoeqip.esp 4F Magician_Girls.esp 50 T's Clothing.esp < still learing so take it easy on me please xD thanks again gregathit. Edit: talking about oblivion btw sorry Edit: basically, am just crashing alot in that area i will post an image of were it is on the map here it is http://postimage.org/image/6im6kbt13/ also crashing when enter luther's broad's broading house in imperial city to activate a quest which is like the 2nd or so x.x
gregathit Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 Well, part of the problem could be that you have lovers files below these two: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp That is a no, no. Those two plugins above should be at the VERY bottom of your load order. Lovers raperman and hooker should be up with the other lovers plugins. [spoiler=All of these should be up above the lovers plugins:] 29 Diplomacy and Mercy.esp 2B cidnothumpMMversion.esp 2C HTHAdvanced - Normal.esp 2D HTHAdvanced - Sinkpoint.esp 2E Chain it!.esp 2F Specialanims.esp 30 CM Partners.esp 37 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp 38 CM Partners NPC.esp 39 CM Partners More NPCs.esp 3A CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp 3B CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 3C ABCompilation_APN.esp 42 Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp 43 yangyang_shoes.esp 44 yangyang_Oneytia.esp 45 aion_rose.esp 46 Schwertleite Armor BU.esp 47 ArgentArmorBreakDMGUTS.esp 48 CaptiveMaiden.esp 4A Bridal_clothes.esp 4C Female Xivilai.esp 4D BlackLolita.esp 4E momomoeqip.esp 4F Magician_Girls.esp 50 T's Clothing.esp Your bashed patch should be just above LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and the following items should be merged into your bashed patch and disabled: 31 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp 32 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 33 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 34 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp 35 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 26 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp 27 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp You have multiple versions of the same thing: 1. HTHAdvanced - Normal.esp and HTHAdvanced - Sinkpoint.esp - are you supposed to have picked only one? check the readme.txt for this mod. 2. cidnothump.esp and cidnothumpMMversion.esp - again I believe you are only supposed to have one of these and not both...check the readme.txt for this mod. 3. LoversRaperS.esp and LoversRaperSGalgat.esp - This is definitely one you can't have both! You can only have one or the other. The load order in the post I gave you before should serve as a guide on how to structure yours. Oblivion is VERY fussy when it comes to load orders. Also be very careful on what mods you put below lovers as anything that has scripts has the potential to interfere with the scripts of lovers mods. After resorting your load order start a new game and travel to Dasek Moor to see if you crash. Link to sample load order (see spoiler): http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 NOTE: You will need to rebuild your bashed patch after shuffling your load order - MAKE SURE you do NOT include any lovers files (esm or esp) in that bashed patch or it can break their scripts which can cause problems. If doing all of the above doesn't sort you out then we will likely need to start disabling all mods and then add them back 2 to 3 at a time until you start crashing to see what is causing the problem.
rabie125 Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 well after along read and thinking xD this is how my loading order looks like Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 BreakUndies.esm 02 CM Partners.esm 03 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 LoversCreature.esm 06 Oblivion Vwalk.esp 07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 08 DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp 09 DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp 0A Female Lich.esp 0B Water Nymphs.esp 0C VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 0D homura outfit HGEC.esp 0E IrohaClothes.esp 0F LadyDeath.esp 10 SPB Oppai Sensei.esp 11 VipCxjHHTest.esp 12 Slof's Horses Base.esp 13 Slof's Extra Horses.esp 14 CurseOfHircine.esp 15 LBUndeadAdditions.esp 16 Abriael_Human.esp 17 BridFetishGirl.esp 18 BridFetishGirlTrainerAddon.esp 19 Knights.esp 1A Knights Vwalk.esp 1B Nude Humanlike Spriggan Tweaked.esp 1C Diplomacy and Mercy.esp 1D cidnothumpMMversion.esp 1E CM Partners.esp 1F CM Partners Special NPCs.esp 20 CM Partners NPC.esp 21 CM Partners More NPCs.esp 22 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp 23 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 24 ABCompilation_APN.esp 25 ABCompilation.esp 26 Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp 27 yangyang_shoes.esp 28 yangyang_Oneytia.esp 29 aion_rose.esp 2A Schwertleite Armor BU.esp 2B ArgentArmorBreakDMGUTS.esp 2C CaptiveMaiden.esp 2D Bridal_clothes.esp 2E Female Xivilai.esp 2F BlackLolita.esp 30 momomoeqip.esp 31 Magician_Girls.esp 32 T's Clothing.esp 33 HTHAdvanced - Sinkpoint.esp 34 Chain it!.esp 35 Specialanims.esp 36 LoversHooker.esp 37 LoversRapeman.esp 38 LoversFSE.esp 39 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 3A LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 3B LoversRaperSGalgat.esp 3C Lovers with PK.esp [Version 94] 3D LoversBitch.esp 3E LoversCreature.esp 3F Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 40 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp 41 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp 42 LoversBrothel.esp 43 LoversSummonRapeman.esp 44 SetBody.esp 45 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp 46 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 47 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 48 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp 49 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 4A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 4B Bashed Patch, 0.esp 4C LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 4D LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp but am still not sure with the merage thing like what do you mean with disable them, as in uncheck them ? and how do i actually do the merage process and rebuild x.x Edit: well i right clicked on the Bashed Patch, 0.esp and choose rebuild then i unchecked the beautiful peaple links i had in the (Merge patch) which was 4 of them and the rest in there was: Nude humanlike spriggan tweaked .esp cidnothumpMMversion.esp cidnothump.esp Female Xivilai.esp Specialanims.esp and i didnt uncheck these then i looked around and found loversCreatures_SexualOrgans.esp and loversCreatures_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp in the (import graphics) and unchecked them. these are all the steps i did so far please correct me if am wrong am just still newby like i said xD
gregathit Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 Actually if I am understanding what you did unchecking them in the bashed patch is opposite of what you do. Recheck them in the bashed patch under the merge tab and import graphics tab. Uncheck them (or disable them) in OBMM or Wyre AFTER you rebuild your bashed patch. The reason for this is they are already included in your bashed patch. DO NOT delete them as you will need those files if you rebuild your bashed patch in the future. Hopefully I explained that a little better Sorry for any confusion I may have caused!
rabie125 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Posted April 10, 2012 Actually if I am understanding what you did unchecking them in the bashed patch is opposite of what you do. Recheck them in the bashed patch under the merge tab and import graphics tab. Uncheck them (or disable them) in OBMM or Wyre AFTER you rebuild your bashed patch. The reason for this is they are already included in your bashed patch. DO NOT delete them as you will need those files if you rebuild your bashed patch in the future. Hopefully I explained that a little better Sorry for any confusion I may have caused! lol please don't be sorry, your like the best thing that happend to me so far xD and am pretty thankful for all the help, will work on it and let you know what am doing exactly and i hope am not being much of a stress to you. Btw do you recommend any of the following patches or shall i stick to v1.2.0.416 Unofficial_Oblivion_Patch_v3_2_0_Installer_Version-5296 Unofficial_Official_Mods_Patch_v15_Installer_Version-9969 v1_4_0_Self-Installing_EXE_version-10739 Edit: ok so now i rebuild my bashed and checked Beautiful People links again, LoversCreatures_Organs.esp and LoversCreatures_Organs_Scale.esp. shall i be cheching other things in the bashed rebuild? or just leave everything as it is? then built bashed. then unchecked the ones you told me to uncheck (though they had + and dots instead of blank for being unchecked) which is: 31 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp 32 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 33 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 34 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp 35 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 26 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp 27 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp now this is how my load order looks like: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 BreakUndies.esm 02 CM Partners.esm 03 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 LoversCreature.esm ** Oblivion Vwalk.esp 06 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp 07 Female Lich.esp 08 Water Nymphs.esp 09 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 0A homura outfit HGEC.esp 0B IrohaClothes.esp 0C LadyDeath.esp 0D SPB Oppai Sensei.esp 0E VipCxjHHTest.esp 0F Slof's Horses Base.esp 10 Slof's Extra Horses.esp 11 CurseOfHircine.esp 12 LBUndeadAdditions.esp 13 Abriael_Human.esp 14 BridFetishGirl.esp 15 BridFetishGirlTrainerAddon.esp 16 Knights.esp ** Knights Vwalk.esp ++ Nude Humanlike Spriggan Tweaked.esp 17 Diplomacy and Mercy.esp ++ cidnothump.esp 18 CM Partners.esp 19 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp 1A CM Partners NPC.esp 1B CM Partners More NPCs.esp 1C CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp 1D CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 1E ABCompilation_APN.esp 1F ABCompilation.esp 20 Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp 21 yangyang_shoes.esp 22 yangyang_Oneytia.esp 23 aion_rose.esp 24 Schwertleite Armor BU.esp 25 ArgentArmorBreakDMGUTS.esp 26 CaptiveMaiden.esp 27 Bridal_clothes.esp ++ Female Xivilai.esp 28 BlackLolita.esp 29 momomoeqip.esp 2A Magician_Girls.esp 2B T's Clothing.esp 2C HTHAdvanced - Sinkpoint.esp 2D Chain it!.esp ++ Specialanims.esp 2E LoversHooker.esp 2F LoversRapeman.esp 30 LoversFSE.esp 31 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 32 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 33 LoversRaperS.esp 34 LoversRaperSGalgat.esp 35 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 94] 36 LoversBitch.esp 37 LoversCreature.esp 38 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp 39 LoversBrothel.esp 3A LoversSummonRapeman.esp 3B SetBody.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 3C Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 3D Bashed Patch, 0.esp 3E LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 3F LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp ps: shall i run boss or ? and btw i kept the LoversRaperS.esp and LoversRaperSGalgat.esp because when i remove LoversRaperSGalgat.esp i cant get rape man to spawn when i use it and then when i remove LoversRaperS.esp i can make rapeman spawn but he wont be doing any action just hitting till he kills the target, yet when i keep both of these 2 plugins rapeman and all rape animations works just fine dont ask me how but it does xD. ok now i have done everything i guess, just waiting for you to check if am on the right track then i will delete all my saved files and start over and see if i still crash at the 2nd quest and dasek moor, and i am so very sorry for this long news paper i left for you but man i really respect all of your help and appreciate it your nooby fwend rabie125 xD
gregathit Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 The UOP mods are good things to have. However before installing them make a backup of your data folder (you can compress it via your favorite compression program - winzip, 7zip, winrar or whatever to save space). This will save you HOURS of time spent installing things if something goes south on you. Getting it the habit of doing this every so often is a really good habit The reason you can't get it to work (summonraperman) is it likely has RaperS.esp as its master. You should be able to rename the master via Wyre if you were so inclined. You can ignore this for now if you like, but if weirdness starts happening you may have to do something. So far you are doing well. You can run BOSS but remember you will still have to hand sort the lovers files as BOSS does terrible sorting them. It is great for everything else. Have fun and holler if you have any problems
rabie125 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Posted April 10, 2012 The UOP mods are good things to have. However before installing them make a backup of your data folder (you can compress it via your favorite compression program - winzip' date=' 7zip, winrar or whatever to save space). This will save you HOURS of time spent installing things if something goes south on you. Getting it the habit of doing this every so often is a really good habit The reason you can't get it to work (summonraperman) is it likely has RaperS.esp as its master. You should be able to rename the master via Wyre if you were so inclined. You can ignore this for now if you like, but if weirdness starts happening you may have to do something. So far you are doing well. You can run BOSS but remember you will still have to hand sort the lovers files as BOSS does terrible sorting them. It is great for everything else. Have fun and holler if you have any problems [/quote'] Thanks alot buddy, will make backups now and then install one of these UOP then will start over, hopefuly i wont crash with the 2nd mission at least xD thanks alot again !
rabie125 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 new issue >.< made a backup then installed UOP patch, mods and plugins that is needed and this is how my loading order looks like : Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 BreakUndies.esm 02 CM Partners.esm 03 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 LoversCreature.esm 06 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 08 DLCHorseArmor.esp 09 DLCOrrery.esp 0A DLCFrostcrag.esp 0B DLCThievesDen.esp 0C DLCVileLair.esp 0D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 0E DLCSpellTomes.esp ** Oblivion Vwalk.esp 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp 10 Female Lich.esp 11 Water Nymphs.esp 12 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 13 homura outfit HGEC.esp 14 IrohaClothes.esp 15 LadyDeath.esp 16 SPB Oppai Sensei.esp 17 VipCxjHHTest.esp 18 Slof's Horses Base.esp 19 Slof's Extra Horses.esp 1A CurseOfHircine.esp 1B LBUndeadAdditions.esp 1C Abriael_Human.esp 1D BridFetishGirl.esp 1E BridFetishGirlTrainerAddon.esp 1F Knights.esp ** Knights Vwalk.esp ++ Nude Humanlike Spriggan Tweaked.esp 20 Diplomacy and Mercy.esp ++ cidnothump.esp 21 CM Partners.esp 22 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp 23 CM Partners NPC.esp 24 CM Partners More NPCs.esp 25 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp 26 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 27 ABCompilation_APN.esp 28 ABCompilation.esp 29 Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp 2A yangyang_shoes.esp 2B yangyang_Oneytia.esp 2C aion_rose.esp 2D Schwertleite Armor BU.esp 2E ArgentArmorBreakDMGUTS.esp 2F CaptiveMaiden.esp 30 Bridal_clothes.esp ++ Female Xivilai.esp 31 BlackLolita.esp 32 momomoeqip.esp 33 Magician_Girls.esp 34 T's Clothing.esp 35 HTHAdvanced - Sinkpoint.esp 36 Chain it!.esp 37 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 38 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ----> Delinquent MASTER: DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 39 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 3A DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 3B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 3C DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 3D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 3E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 3F DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 40 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ++ Specialanims.esp 41 LoversHooker.esp 42 LoversRapeman.esp 43 LoversFSE.esp 44 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 45 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 46 LoversRaperS.esp 47 LoversRaperSGalgat.esp 48 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 94] 49 LoversBitch.esp 4A LoversCreature.esp 4B Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp 4C LoversBrothel.esp 4D LoversSummonRapeman.esp 4E SetBody.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 4F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 50 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 51 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 52 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp not sure if i should move anything or so i moved everything up before lovers as i think i should, then rebuilt patch and did every thing needed. the problem am having now is when i open map and travel any were after the loading screen i get this msg then i get the loading screen again and game crashes, here is a screen shot of the error msg i get: any idea what could be wrong ? Edit: Btw Bashed Patch, 0.esp and LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp are highlighted with red. <<< no clue whats going on xd
gregathit Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Well, at least one thing is obvious 38 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ----> Delinquent MASTER: DLCBattlehornCastle.esp The above is a wrye bash error message. You have a dependent file that is above its master in the load order. What this is telling you is you need to move DLCBattlehornCastle.esp up in your load order to at least be above the UOP file. When something is highlighted in red in wrye it is calling out a problem. After installing the UOP files did you rebuild your bashed patch? Remember to disable all lovers mods BEFORE rebuilding your bashed patch so that NO lovers files are built into it. Doing so will mess up their scripts. I have never seen that particular error message myself. You might try running BOSS on your load order. Just remember that if you do, you will have to hand sort your lovers files after using it as BOSS sucks at correctly ordering lovers stuff. Also if you use BOSS you will need to rebuild your bashed patch.
rabie125 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 ran boss, re fixed my order list and now rebuilding, will let you know if it crashes again, will start over again i guess better just to be safer and keep saving Edit : lol omg Dx went in the merchant inn at imperial city (which the 2nd quest is at) i still did crash its like something in there makes me crash but i really dont know what to do any more >.< The when i travel to a target through the map issue is fixed btw but still having that old problem were i crash in some certain places such as The Merchant inn at imperial city, and Dasek Moor. Edit: its ok i will try taking 2 by 2 mods out of the lest and exclude the ones that am sure they got no hand in it, sorry for bothering you i will do all i can when i find the main issue i will let you know, just 1 last question would it matter if i use the same load game which is front marchant inn to try each time i remove a mod or do i need to start over each time? Edit: finaly Dx, problem detected, it was the CM Partner Extra NPCs.esp (at least that was for Marchant inn) now working on finding a way to make it work and not having to remove it ~ i guess its not really that important (at least i hope its not xD) am just gonna go on without it sense am not sure how to fix it cuz it already looks good so eh x.x
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