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Dee383

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Anatriax

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No. Spend a little more and get the 4790k i7 and not have to buy another CPU for around 4 years. Same board, same RAM. Different CPU

RitualClarity

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Just get the best deal that you can for the money. If you aren't going to overclock getting a K processor isn't needed. For gamers however the clock speed is important. Get the best base speed you can afford with a decent board and ram.

 

Guest

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Completely agree with @ritualclarity, the K versions of the i7 is just for future overclocking.

In US the 4790 normal version (4 cores + hyperthreading at 4GHz) can be bought for about $ 310.

And a very good motherboard can be got for less than $ 50.

 

RitualClarity

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The 4790 can go up to 4.4 on turbo and keeps 4.0 speed normally. A bit more than the 3.5 that your processor you are looking at can do. Not much of a change. If you are tight on budget it would be fine. Also the K version of the processors are generally the same price in many places.

 

Finally.. something to consider. Skylake is coming out. It is actually already out. The board and processor you are looking at is the old processor model. If you can wait perhaps check and see if you can/want/should upgrade to a Skylake model. A bit more cash but covers DDR4 memory now. For those that have newer equipment it is a waste. Those that have older equipment or slower equipment might be a very nice boost.

 

FYI. it is now a 1151 socket. Needing a completely new board with that alone not to mention the DDR spec. I hear good things on this.

RitualClarity

RitualClarity

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Looks good however it is so new that there aren't any reviews on the boards or processors. Many stores don't even have supplies yet. The place by where I am at only has the boards and ram not the processors and won't have them for awhile.

Dee383

Dee383

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No Reviews As It Is So New Is Kinda Why I Keeped Looking At lga1150 But I Think Im Going To Wait A Little Longer And Go For lga1151...

RitualClarity

RitualClarity

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No Reviews As It Is So New Is Kinda Why I Keeped Looking At lga1150 But I Think Im Going To Wait A Little Longer And Go For lga1151...

 

If you can that might be best. Wait for some good reviews of the processors and motherboards to make a really good choice. Your path is pretty good what you are going to do pretty clear and solid. Just need to be sure it would be the best. Also if you are waiting for a bit maybe you could even gather up a slight bit more for the faster version of the processor. Gaming is all about speed of the processor, ram, SSD etc. I have the 4790k and its a real game changer.. :P

 

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... I have the 4790k and its a real game changer.. :P

 

 

 

I can only confirm this.

 

There are two days that I got a 4790K, paired with 16Gb Kingstone on a ASUS Z87. And Skyrim starts in about 1 second. Game loads in about 2 seconds.

CK loading of mod and about 5 dependencies in about 10 seconds.

Life changing.

 

Price? About $ 400 on Neweggs. Of course you have to build it...

RitualClarity

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... I have the 4790k and its a real game changer.. :P

 

 

 

I can only confirm this.

 

There are two days that I got a 4790K, paired with 16Gb Kingstone on a ASUS Z87. And Skyrim starts in about 1 second. Game loads in about 2 seconds.

CK loading of mod and about 5 dependencies in about 10 seconds.

Life changing.

 

Price? About $ 400 on Neweggs. Of course you have to build it...

 

LOL.. I was trying to capture some loading screens from a mod here. It was so fast that I had to try three separate times to get the screen captures. :P.. I can't read the text and info most of the time and I read pretty fast. :D

 

Like I stated. Speed is king when it comes to gaming. The fast clock and fast ram (within capabilities of your Processor of course if you aren't' going to overclock added money for faster ram beyond that is just a waste. From some reviews and comments the new replacements will be slightly faster than the current gen. Much like the improvements from before with each gen. Those that have newer versions, might not get much of benefit to dollars however those from older rigs will really see a difference.

 

varenne

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I steer clear of any bundled sets nowadays, especially those found on Newegg, which IMO used to be a more trustworthy site. I find they are trying to push merchandise that isn't selling or is overstocked.

 

Research the intended MB, CPU and RAM followed by a selection of vidcards and what you intend on using it for. Matching up all or most hardware throughput will give you the best band for the buck. There is no shortage of PC build sites with recommendations on good to excellent builds. Those are often where I start when contemplating my next PC build.

 

I live very near a TigerDirect store and the PC techs there are always happy to talk shop if I have questions.

Dee383

Dee383

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What Advantage Would Spending More Money For i7 Over i5 Give Me For Gaming ...

I Dont Overclock , Render  Or Do Video Editing ....

Guest

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Games are more and more able to use more cores, also with hyperthreading. Skyrim benefits very little.

But in a short time, a good CPU (not me, the Processor) will be used more and more.

 

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HyperThreading is not. Having multiple cores is already a reality for recent games.

HT is just doubling the logical cores (just a small part of the actual core is doubled, the resources are shared by couple of cores.)

It has some benefits, but not a huge amount.

 

If your i5 has 4 cores and no HT, just go for it. I don't think for many years we will require more than this.

 

RitualClarity

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It will be a slow process. Testing with the newest and greatest processors including Skylake is hard as there are no more CPU bottlenecks with major games. The main thing now is the GPU once a decent powerful and fast processor has been gotten. If budget is a concern. A fast processor, Good fast ram and an SSD along with the best GPU you can get (where you put most of the money at) should do you well for a number of years. You will likely have to upgrade the processor for the new Direct X version and games before you have to upgrade the processor either the i5 or the i7 that has been discussed (regardless of if it is the Skylake or the current line up).

 

Get the i7 if you need / want more processing for other tasks. If this is pretty much a strict internet, movie and gaming rig then you only need an i5. Since your stuff is old you might if possible wait until the skylakes get more mainstream. Worst case is the older gen would be cheaper. Also you might be able to budget for a nice SSD and upgrade for the GPU as well. ;).

 

You can do reasonably well with a nice fast i5, (> 3.2 ~3.5  or better) 8gigs of DDR 1600 (or DDR1800) an SSD big enough to hold the games and a 960 GPU or equivalent. If you mod get the 4gb vram or better. That is basically it. If I hadn't been budgeting for my GPU upgrade and had the money for the rig I currently have. I would have basically what I mention above ;). Basically what you asked about to begin with.

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Looking at reviews from other people that bought them.

varenne

varenne

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Looking at reviews from other people that bought them.

 

Ditto. Plus researching latest trends and features, filtering through all the marketing hype (read bullshit).

 

I still tend build based on being able to effectively use high-end 3d modeling programs, so not an average build.

 

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