TTW, immediate CTD when Sexout begins initializing.

[hornguy6]

I posted earlier in a different thread because I thought my problem was different and my saves were just broken, but as it currently stands, I cannot even start a new game with Sexout enabled without an immediate game crash. Therefore, I can only assume that something to do with Sexout and its interaction with my game or TTW is the issue. I am using the most recent stable version of Sexout that was just posted by Odessa and my load order is below. Any help that can be provided would make me very happy as it would allow me to keep playing Fallout.

 

Load Order:

 

FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
CaravanPack.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm
Primary Needs HUD.esm
oHUD.esm
Sexout.esm
SexoutCommonResources.esm
SexoutSlavery.esm
SexoutStore.esm
SexoutSoliciting.esm
SexoutTryout.esm
rePopulated Wasteland.esm
T6M Equipment Replacer NV.esm
NevadaSkies.esm
Lings.esm
MikotoBeauty.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm
Caliber.esm
FalloutTTWquestoverhaul.esp
TTWFixes.esm
CaliberXgunrunners.esm
CaliberXhonesthearts.esm
JIP Selective-Fire.esm
FCOMaster.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
SmallerTalk.esp
SexoutSexAssault.esp
CasinosExchangeMoreNCRCash.esp
LMDExpandedHotkeys.esp
101Posters.esp
101Billboards.esp
populatedcasino.esp
Ghost Variants.esp
Ghost Variants Safe.esp
OCD-Cass outfits.esp
Improved VATS and Autoaim fix with Better Binoculars.esp
RSCR-Expansion_Decks.esp
DragsSeamConcealers.esp
Karma Perks.esp
XFO - 4bb - Perks - Two per level.esp
SexoutZAZ.esp
SexoutAssassin.esp
Sprint Mod.esp
PrnOut.esp
T6M Under Wear.esp
T6M Lingerie NV.esp
EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp
RagdollOverhaul.esp
SexoutClothingEval.esp
CompanionDe-Equip.esp
SexoutConsequences.esp
SexoutResolutions.esp
T6M Unique Item.esp
Naked_gun.esp
SexyTacticalOutfitT6M.esp
T6M Old World Blues Replace.esp
SilverSlugger.esp
MNK-RHINOgaussRevolver.esp
Kriss.esp
CZ805.esp
epock.esp
zzClothes.esp
MikotoBeauty.esp
FCO - GlowingOne.esp
Odins Magazines.esp
MSR556.esp
Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.CaliberX4+.Patch.esp
Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp
Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp
Clean-QuickSave.esp
NevadaSkies - URLIFIED Interiors.esp
A Better Cass.esp
ILO - GS Shack.esp
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp
Manurhin MR96.esp
MEU(SOC) 1911.esp
SexoutSpunk.esp
T6M Jeans Outfit.esp
SexoutLust.esp
SexoutLust - anyHUD.esp
BerettaNV_NVSE.esp
BerettaNVM9Opt_NVSE.esp
Sexout-Amra.esp
SexoutAnimManagement.esp
NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp
SexoutTTWEncounters.esp
hai.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Total active plugins: 105
Total plugins: 135

 

[zippy57]

A lot of times crashes like this are not the fault of one single mod, even though it can seem like it. If disabling Sexout solves your crash issue, it's almost certainly not Sexout causing your crash. Rather, it's probably Sexout and another mod causing the crash together. Try disabling everything but Sexout and see if your crash persists. If it doesn't, start reactivating plugins in chunks until it comes back, then repeat with smaller sets until you've narrowed it down.

[hornguy6]

A lot of times crashes like this are not the fault of one single mod, even though it can seem like it. If disabling Sexout solves your crash issue, it's almost certainly not Sexout causing your crash. Rather, it's probably Sexout and another mod causing the crash together. Try disabling everything but Sexout and see if your crash persists. If it doesn't, start reactivating plugins in chunks until it comes back, then repeat with smaller sets until you've narrowed it down.

 

I did exactly that which is what confused me. I disabled every mod except Sexout and it causes the crash as soon as it begins initializing, even if it's the only thing active. I can get it to work for a short period of time by clean saving with no Sexout files and then waiting an in game week and then re-enabling Sexout, but if I quit the game then I will be unable to load the new Sexout save.

[zippy57]

If Sexout by itself caused a crash, then everyone would be reporting it, so it must be something unique to your install. Have you validated your files with Steam?

[hornguy6]

Yup. Files are validated. I'm not entirely sure what happened because without any changes to my game itself, it just up and stopped working one day. This has been a thing in the past for me, but it would usually only break saves, not the operation of my entire game. I should point out that the crash happens specifically when Sexout begins initializing. I know because I added Odessa's Clean Quick Save mod so when I load up a save it gives me the "You must assign hotkeys for this" window and after I click okay Sexout starts initializing and I get the CTD.

 

I'm going to try different versions of NVSE and check that I have the most up to date files of everything again and see if it makes a difference.

[hornguy6]

Is the Sexout recommended version of NVSE still the one from the dropbox or is the Silverlock one now up to date? I can't currently access the dropbox one as that page seems to be down.

[hornguy6]

Alright, I'm just going to try a full re-install of my game.

[hornguy6]

No dice. I'm completely out of my depth here. With any other problems I've had with this game, I could always have some idea of what was wrong, usually a problem with load order, something I could diagnose myself. I've got no clue. It's like my game itself is somehow incompatible with Sexout now.

 

Will my NVSE log help?

nvse.log

[hornguy6]

Any suggestions from anyone? I think I'm willing try anything short of re-imaging my computer at this point.

 

edit: tried uninstalling TTW and it makes no difference. I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I guess I can never play Sexout again.

[cecik]

I don't know if you've allready did this, but you could try loading your install in FNVEdit.

Usually when your game crashes, FNVEdit will crash as well, but it will tell you (or at least try) what is wrong

[hornguy6]

Yeah, it doesn't bring up anything there. I always use that to check my game.

[hornguy6]

Not gonna lie. I'm actually pretty upset about this. I was really looking forward to trying Loogie's Pitt Tryout.

[zippy57]

I wish there was something we could do to help you, I really do, but the issue you are experiencing isn't reproducible and that makes it near impossible to troubleshoot.

[hornguy6]

I've been hoping to upgrade my processor at some point. Maybe I can fix it then since I was planning a backup of my hard drive before that.

 

If I can find time to do a full re-installation (as in deleting the entire folder from my computer and then re-downloading everything) but it sounds like a huge pain in the ass finding all my mods and such again.

[zippy57]

Why would you need to find them again? Where are they going to go?

[hornguy6]

When I said full re-install, I meant deleting all the data for my mods (just in case) as well and then getting them back from whatever site I originally got them from. While not "difficult" it would certainly be long and tedious to do that for 100 mods.

 

It's funny that I have all these problems because of mods while my friends play just the base game but I just can't give up my mods ahahaha

[zippy57]

Deleting the other 99 seems like a bit of overkill considering you've narrowed it down to Sexout being the problem.

[wunderbar]

When you're trying to load up Sexout, are you loading up the typical framework items only, or all the .esps such as Assault, etc? If the game works fine without Sexout, I'd recommend loading up all your plugins, and then trying just the Sexout .esms. If it still crashes, switch off SexoutStore, Tryouts, Soliciting and Slavery so you're left only with CommonResources and Sexout.esm. It may be one specific Sexout plugin that's killing your game. Also do you have the NVSE Extension that is needed for most of Sexout?

[hornguy6]

When you're trying to load up Sexout, are you loading up the typical framework items only, or all the .esps such as Assault, etc? If the game works fine without Sexout, I'd recommend loading up all your plugins, and then trying just the Sexout .esms. If it still crashes, switch off SexoutStore, Tryouts, Soliciting and Slavery so you're left only with CommonResources and Sexout.esm. It may be one specific Sexout plugin that's killing your game. Also do you have the NVSE Extension that is needed for most of Sexout?

 

 

I use Wyre Flash so when I deactivate Sexout it automatically deactivates all of the child esm/esps. I tried testing it by disabling every ESM/ESP except for the TTW files and Sexout and it was still causing CTDs. I was using NVSE 5.0beta2 and NX 16 with Odessa's SexoutNG 2.10.94. It seemed to somehow be an incompatibility with the installation itself rather than any mod conflicts, as I could also load FNVEdit just fine without any problems.

 

Deleting the other 99 seems like a bit of overkill considering you've narrowed it down to Sexout being the problem.

 

Perhaps it is/was overkill, but I realized that since I can't play Sexout anyways, I have nothing to lose by just starting the process now and slowly moving forward (since I was at least smart enough to save my load order) over the course of a week or two. Of course, I do also still have everything in my recycling bin should I change my mind, but for the most part my hail mary seems to have paid off. I deleted everything relating to Fallout New Vegas including my saves and ini's and all of my mod files, and then I re-downloaded/installed the basic essentials for TTW and Sexout and I can now start a new game which loads up without crashing. Just going to be a while till I have everything customized and modded out the way I want it again and then I can do a brand new playthrough, but hopefully bug free as I had a plethora of other bugs that plagued my game including one that prevented me from entering the Testing Labs of Vault 87 without a CTD, thus forcing me to console my way to Fawkes to continue the mission. Long story short, "problem solved." Couldn't fix it, so I nuked it and am rebuilding from scratch I'll mark this solved after this post.

 

I should mention though that I noticed a slight discrepancy that I wasn't aware was a discrepancy before. I mention this in case anyone else ends up having a similar problem and you might be reminded of my issue. When I started new games while my game was broken, it would always load the New Vegas intro first (with the moon) and then afterwards load the Fallout 3 intro (with the radio.) It was so long ago that I started my TTW game that I didn't realize that it's not supposed to be like that, it's just supposed to immediately start with the Fallout 3 intro and disregard the New Vegas intro altogether. Maybe I've just unintentionally messed up my install more than I possibly could have known over the course of several years, or maybe there was one thing that had to do with that, but either way, I felt that I should mention this for posterity.

 

Not like it matters because in a few months we'll be sexing out Fallout 4 ehh?

[zippy57]

It seemed to somehow be an incompatibility with the installation itself rather than any mod conflicts, as I could also load FNVEdit just fine without any problems.

There would be no reason for FNVEdit to have any problems loading in this situation. FNVEdit will only present a fatal error on load when there is a missing or out-of-order master file.