Large, deformed hands

[Sassahuaranga]

I posted this over at Nexus but got 0 help so I a, hoping you guys can help me out.

 

Ok here's the deal:

 

Let me preface this by saying that I am using Mod Organizer, which means none of the original Skyrim files should be overwritten but simply overridden.

 

My install was going fine until i decided to get loose base scripts for RaceMenu and update my skse to 1.7.2 (used 1.7.1 before). I only did so because I meant to get rid of the annoying error messages, they did not really hurt the game. Anyway after I went back into the game I found the hands of my character to be massive and weirdly shaped. In the screenshots you will notice that its looks long and the wrist seems to be in an odd place.

 

So I disabled the added mod, didnt revert to skse 1.7.1 though.

 

Problem persisted!

 

Next thing I started with ECE instead of RM which was fine. Hands looked normal.

 

Anwyay at this point I kinda rely on RaceMenu being present so I fiddled around some more but ultimately could not fix it. I noticed though that all female NPCs displayed the same problem.

 

I tried different hand meshes to fix it also: namely mrtroublemaker's and Halo's

 

Both again looked fine with my ECE profile. Also at this point aswell as right now I am also using RANs Headmesh Type C. Didn't cause trouble before and really headmeshes should in no way affect handmeshes anyway

 

Eventually I decided for the dreaded move of reinstalling Skyrim and all my mods. At this point the list is a bit excessive so I try to avoid it as much as I can. However once I was done reinstalling my mods I found that the issue has spread to my ECE profile. It also spread to a nearly vanilla profile (only thing present: USKP + Live another Life to speed up the process until I can check on NPCs)

 

I am not sure if I just didnt catch it before because the hands distracted me but by now I also noticed that the arms were deformed. It does also affect males now. It's not as notable as with females but you can make out that the hand does't look right. Furthermore I am noticing clipping errors. the arms are slightly clipping through the chest. So yeah long story short: hands and arms are glitched to hell and back

 

I had this thought that either my skeleton (Groovetama's XPMSE  2.72) or my body meshes (UNPB for females, favoredsoulmeshes for males) might be to blame, reinstalling them and making sure to have them relatively low on the list did not fix it and should not even affect my nearly vanilla setup)

 

I could actually try and see if I get a clean result by running entirely vanilla through the official launcher but as Mod Organizer does not replace any files I don't see a point in that. Furthermore I have no intention of playing Skyrim unmodded so theres even less of a incentive in doing so.

 

I want to point out once more that I've repeatedly started new games when i changed which mods im loading just in case the bug is actually in the saves. I do however fall back to the save when i first encountered the problem for the simple reason of double checking with it. The redhead in the pics is actually a preset i made back while everything was still working fine and it surely didnt have weird looking arms and hands. Again I didn't see a reason to try my other preset as I already noticed that the problem existes with npcs and even with the as vanilla as it gets nord male with all sliders on default positions (created with the near vanilla profile where theres not a single mod altering character appearance or creation)

 

I have researched loverslab and beyond on the matter before and it seems theres like 3 recurring glitches related to hands that come in several variations. Either way none of the infortmation I found proved to be useful to me.

 

At this point I actually went ahead and reinstalled Skyrim once more (also maually removed the folder in MyGames) and to be as thorough as it gets I also deleted my mod organizer folder and started fresh.

 

Again even with the minimal setup of USKP + Live another Life I'm getting these graphical glitches.

 

I will add the images as soon as I have the privilege (alternatively go over to nexus tech support for skyrim and look for the topic with the same title)


Any help will be appreciated.

 

[edit]

ugh sorry I had to take out the modlist aswell, aparently I cant use spoiler tags prior to having 2 successful posts and since the list is kinda extensive I dont think it'd be useful to post the whole thing. (the modlist can be found on the nexus ver of this thread too)

 

Of course as the problem remains without any body altering mods It might not be necessary anyway, I do use mod organizer's built in loot to sort my mods tho

[Groovtama]

nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp

 

applies wrong scales for hands (1.0 which is wrong for females, correct is 0.85 for females), also uses Netimmerse, why does everyone installs that crap with XPMSE2, my plugin adds the exact same shit.

[Sassahuaranga]

oh hey thanks. looks like that did it for me.

also good seeing theres an irc to bug people at. looks like a more convenient method for me than building forum exp

[Sassahuaranga]