cant pinpoint the cause of this ctd

bieboy · May 5, 2015

its been a week im not playing skyrim, last night when i try to play, suddenly i got this ctd problem after entering the game.

i can enter the game, but when the main menu appears (after the enb bla bla bla words on the top left gone) the game is crashing to desktop. im not too sure what caused it. the game was fine before

last time i checked, i was adding a couple of mods (Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp, NB-Scars.esp, Better City Entrances - All in one.esp, HDTTESTEarring.esp, Leah Lilith Jewelry.esp, RegnPiercings.esp, Elemental Staves.esp, chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp) and merged it

adding some textures mod

the next day, i was trying to update my vga driver (radeon hd 5700) to beta driver 15.4 (GTA V Optimized)

the day after that, i was installing tamriel reloaded HD (with all the patches needed and some error fixes)

-im not sure what caused it, already run tes5edit till its finished because normaly if the ctd is on main menu, tes5edit wont finish

-try deleting skyrim ini and skyrim prefs ini, doesnt work

-generate fnis

-check missing masters in wrye bash

-generate load order with loot

-play in windowed/fullscreen/and reduce the quality

-clean saves with papyrus data transfer

i run over 300++ mods, with a couple of merged mods, and it runs fine before, my modlist:

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unique Flowers & Plants.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

SMPC.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

SMPC_DG.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

SMPC_HF.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

SMPC_DB.esp=1

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1

DynamicLoot.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

Omegared99-Compilation.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

MFVM.esm=1

JSwords.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

RSkyrimChildren.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1

BBLuxurySuite.esm=1

Inn Girls Resources.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

SummerWear.esm=1

JackGaPub.esm=1

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1

GeneralStores.esm=1

ElisHotSprings.esm=1

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1

Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1

3DNPC.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

ASX_Spells.esp=1

pceacompil.esp=1

SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1

chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp=1

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1

00FacialExpressions.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

UIExtensions.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1

BBP_ArmorPack.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Compi1.esp=1

SGHairPackAIO.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp=1

Unique Grasses.esp=1

Compi6.esp=1

ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp=1

ACE Enchanting.esp=1

ACE Archery.esp=1

ACE Melee.esp=1

ACE Armor.esp=1

ACE Speech.esp=1

ACE Synergy.esp=1

ACE BYOG.esp=1

ACE Magic.esp=1

ACE Realistic Fighting.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

Omegared99-GalleryOfArmor.esp=1

Compi2.esp=1

Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1

SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1

SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp=1

SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp=1

blessarmors.esp=1

Dress1.esp=1

BBP_ArmorPack2.esp=1

Locational Damage.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

DynamicLoot_DG.esp=1

DynamicLoot_DB.esp=1

dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

Cannabis.esp=1

CannabisUpdate.esp=1

ForswornFemale.esp=1

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp=1

nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp=1

White River Cottage.esp=1

RiversideLodge.esp=1

ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

mintylightningmod.esp=1

NpcHavokHit.esp=1

NusbieVoices.esp=1

TravellersOfSkyrim - Light.esp=1

Skyrim Bigger Trees Full.esp=1

Adura_Skyrimmerchantmod_BFU.esp=1

ELFX_2_0_BFU_Patch.esp=1

LanternsOfSkyrimELFXpatch.esp=1

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1

AshenFollowers.esp=1

AshenFollowers - MFVM Patch.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp=1

M.D. Wolfe's (SER) Market fix.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

Terapack2015.esp=1

VioLens.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

winterhold_improvements.esp=1

CraftableClothes.esp=1

Compi3.esp=1

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1

QuickStart3_NoHelmet.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp=1

SoS - Civilization.esp=1

SoS - The Wilds.esp=1

SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1

Immersive Wenches.esp=1

rk_Followers.esp=1

Almanassi.esp=1

Witch Of The Wild.esp=1

AuroraFollower.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

Compi4.esp=1

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

Compy5.esp=1

Armor1.esp=1

Pixie Follower.esp=1

Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1

vampirefarith.esp=1

Victoria Velina Revamped.esp=1

adenz_FairyFollowers.esp=1

adenz_MarieRose.esp=1

Compi8.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

GuardAnimationsGDO.esp=1

Cum Shot Brothel.esp=1

AliciaPainSlut.esp=1

Immersive Patrols II.esp=1

SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp=1

Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp=1

zMirai.esp=1

BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp=1

BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp=1

Compi5.esp=1

studentex.esp=1

QT-Frea.esp=1

SofiaFollower.esp=1

Sofia Toccata.esp=1

Sophia.esp=1

MBWS Followers II.esp=1

gmbear.esp=1

aya_099.esp=1

SKY_StandaloneFollowers.esp=1

WacoFollowers.esp=1

Avelyn Follower.esp=1

Nara.esp=1

_aya_zelaII.esp=1

BTRH_PSv02.esp=1

BTRH_Elly.esp=1

Abigail The Maid.esp=1

Compi7.esp=1

LunariWarriors.esp=1

SKY_Girls.esp=1

New1.esp=1

Followers of Aber.esp=1

Yeriel Follower.esp=1

Armor4.esp=1

Armor2.esp=1

DanarielStormbow.esp=1

RosaFollower.esp=1

Cynthiafamily.esp=1

Armor3.esp=1

QT-Akira.esp=1

WI_ELFX_Patch.esp=1

Zt_followers.esp=1

AdenzFollower.esp=1

YuiH StandAlone Follower - Merura.esp=1

GCE Follower All In One.esp=1

himiko.esp=1

DF_Dianest.esp=1

Rowana Follower.esp=1

Sunsakuka's Follower.esp=1

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1

ChaconneVilja.esp=1

Elwyn - YuiH StandAlone Follower.esp=1

Companion_Ari.esp=1

Kamille.esp=1

Shia - follower.esp=1

TwinSildaril.esp=1

Elf_sisters.esp=1

FollowerSha.esp=1

Agatha Follower.esp=1

M_Follower.esp=1

M_FollowersR.esp=1

NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp=1

SOGS.esp=1

jh_people2.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1

SummerWearSA.esp=1

Compi9.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

marriagemod - alpha v3.esp=1

Change Spouse Outfits.esp=1

Spousetocustomhome.esp=1

My Home Is Your Home.esp=1

SpousesEnhanced.esp=1

FollowerWander2.esp=1

FollowerWander2Serana.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

Donyaakin.esp=1

zzLSAR.esp=1

PrinceandPauperRS.esp=1

PNPRSPatch.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp=1

skytestpatch.esp=1

Patch1.esp=1

SoS-CoTPatch.esp=1

BWS.esp=1

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1

BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1

Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp=1

TR HD no grass no trees.esp=1

Real Roads.esp=1

SaturationBoost.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

i assume either the vga driver update or the tamriel reloaded hd is causing this. i already check my installation of tamriel reloaded, step by step and repeat it but still ctd. can tamriel reloaded hd is conflicting with my enb ? (i have megatherium enb, with v0.266 dlls) my enb have their own meshes and textures so tamriel hd must have replaced it. can it cause ctd?

i forgot about what mod textures i installed yesterday, but most of textures mods cant cause ctd right?

im running out of idea to solve this, need some thoughts on this please. any help will be appreciated

(sorry for my bad english)

Papyrus.0.log

digital_dovah · May 5, 2015

Sounds like your mod setup went over the 3.1GB RAM usage limit that skyrim has.

yatol · May 6, 2015

last time i checked, i was adding a couple of mods (Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp, NB-Scars.esp, Better City Entrances - All in one.esp, HDTTESTEarring.esp, Leah Lilith Jewelry.esp, RegnPiercings.esp, Elemental Staves.esp, chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp) and merged it

-im not sure what caused it, already run tes5edit till its finished because normaly if the ctd is on main menu, tes5edit wont finish

try without that merged esp

when i tried merging the immersive winterhold esp, tesedit found 0 errors in that esp, and was able to load the load order with it

but skyrim wasn't able to load that esp -> ctd

bieboy · May 6, 2015

Sounds like your mod setup went over the 3.1GB RAM usage limit that skyrim has.

i run skyrim performance monitor and the ram + vram usage is small

try without that merged esp

when i tried merging the immersive winterhold esp, tesedit found 0 errors in that esp, and was able to load the load order with it

but skyrim wasn't able to load that esp -> ctd

i tried excluding the new merged mods 1 by 1 (removed the textures,mesh, script and esp) to see what mod is causing this but still no luck

i just wondering could it be my enb conflict with tamriel reloaded hd? in papyrus data transfer when i choose ctd before main menu it means the script not caused it, it can be because of the enb, mods or mods order it says

i used megatherium enb, and they have their own data files (meshes,textures) so tamriel reloaded hd must be replacing them

tried removing the TR HD no grass no trees.esp, still ctd before main menu appears

and is it possible that updating vga driver caused this ctd? i mean the game isnt even loaded yet

im running out of ideas for what have caused this. dont even know what to test anymore

its my day off and cant even get to play skyrim, just more work testing what caused this ctd for my day off :mellow:

bieboy · May 6, 2015

i search around about my ctd, and the only things that sounds possible is either mods or other technical problems. so i suspect its about the memory/vga or like digital dovah above said.

i try to replace my skse.ini (sheeson patch) with this one http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51038/?and it works wonderfully!!

i didnt know what caused this, probably maybe because after i installed tamriel reloaded i hit my memory limit

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