572 page Papyrus log and slow transitions?

[halieslade]

Some time ago, I finally got my load order and mod lineup working right.  I've been trying not to add or remove big scripted mods in case it creates a new problem but there have been a couple of exceptions.  I've tried hard to be careful and always run SaveCleaner and TESEdit5 to keep my games clean.

 

So, right now my game is functioning.  But by the Nines it loads slowly!  I'm unsure whether to leave it as is and just ignore the slow transitions or to go in and remove more mods. Or maybe there's another analysis tool I can run?

 

I've noticed that a couple of my mods don't always work - that is, their dialogs aren't showing up at all.  So, the last thing I did a couple of days ago was to remove Prison Overhaul and the 5.0c fix, on the theory that it was responsible for the slow transitions.  That turned out not to be the problem, but now I'm afraid to add PO and the fix patch back in until I straighten things out.

 

My save game size has not increased for months - it remains right around 10-11k consistently. (I'm running "ClearInvalidRegistrations=1" in my SKSE.ini to prevent bloat.)

 

Here is my load order, and I'll attach my ginormous Papyrus log to this post.  As I said, the game works for me so this isn't a big CTD emergency, but I'm troubled by the poor performance I started to see lately and puzzled by a possible relationship between the big papyrus log and the very slow cell transitions.

 

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
hdtHighHeel.esm
DynamicLoot.esm
SexLab.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SPERG.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
FullBootForKKSA.esp
MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp
Bikini-MTM.esp
Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp
No NPC Greetings.esp
BootsOfNimbleSpeed.esp
AlynShirArmor.esp
DaedraHuntress.esp
CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
DonMichHeelsstock.esp
Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
Craftable Arrows.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
DraugrSkirts_Havok.esp
TriRings of Powers v1.0.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
DynamicLoot_DB.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
JackshAyaneArmor.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest.esp
FlameAtronachArmor.esp
DynamicLoot_DG.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Elleh's Circlets Standalone.esp
KKFur.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
QuieterDogs.esp
KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp
Mass Calm.esp
Collar.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
Latex Armor.esp
LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Daedric Extra Armor.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
JackshJuliaArmor.esp
Extended UI.esp
One With Nature - DG+DB.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
Artifact Disenchanting.esp
master of enchanting.esp
FormsEdit.esp
ProperWeaponScale.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
SSv2.esp
RaceMenu.esp
DHuntress.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RichMerchants.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
SPERG.esp
Dalight.esp
SexLab Enchantress.esp
SexLab SexChat.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
SkyUI.esp
SkyTweak.esp
Strap.esp
extra extra effect for zer0.esp
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
Tamriel Reloaded Flora.esp
GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp
animal_mansion.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
ShellBondage - Bombshell.esp
SexLabWorkingGirl.esp
Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp
More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
BesEss.esp
Enchanting - IDWIW.esp
Equip more Rings (8)_EN.esp
Dragonborn Crafting Hall LE.esp
Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp
PetCollar.esp
Map Markers Complete.esp
LongerCraftingDurations.esp
thu'um infinium.esp
Edhildils Dominatrix and Purelust.esp
R18pn - lingerie Set.esp
CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp
ReworkedSkimpySilverlight.esp
Bob's Boots CBBE v8.0.esp
Bob's Boots CBBE v8.2.esp
Bob's Boots CBBE v8.3.esp
DonMichHeels.esp
tie.esp
Uncraftable-DawnGuard-DragonBorn.esp
cpkinokopose.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
enchantmentcleanserdlc2.esp
hetai china dress.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
SexLabSolutions_LAL_Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[funnymotion]

Before I try to help ya, are you using the SKSE Memory Patch as well as Cell Stabilizer, ENBoost and Safety Load? Those four fixes are neccessary as well. Cell Stabilizer and Safety Load are similair but affect different aspects. You can find those particular Mods on the Nexus. With SKSE's Memory Patch I reccommend watching YouTuber Gopher's Video on Installing the SKSE Memory Patch. He also does a video on Installing ENBoost as well. Go get those if you don't have any of them.

 

One more thing, you are only experiencing trouble with slower loading screens and cell's right? That's to be expected with a script heavy set up. Also, what is your UGridsToLoad set at? Are you using an ENB? How about high resolution textures for landscapes and buildings?

 

Also, you are going to want to check this out as well:

http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/22rbk5/whats_the_best_papyrus_tweaks_to_use/

 

^ Scroll down a bit and find MasterCobia's comment on Papyrus Tweaks.

[halieslade]

Before I try to help ya, are you using the SKSE Memory Patch as well as Cell Stabilizer, ENBoost and Safety Load? Those four fixes are neccessary as well. Cell Stabilizer and Safety Load are similair but affect different aspects. You can find those particular Mods on the Nexus. With SKSE's Memory Patch I reccommend watching YouTuber Gopher's Video on Installing the SKSE Memory Patch. He also does a video on Installing ENBoost as well. Go get those if you don't have any of them.

 

One more thing, you are only experiencing trouble with slower loading screens and cell's right? That's to be expected with a script heavy set up. Also, what is your UGridsToLoad set at? Are you using an ENB? How about high resolution textures for landscapes and buildings?

 

Also, you are going to want to check this out as well:

http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/22rbk5/whats_the_best_papyrus_tweaks_to_use/

 

^ Scroll down a bit and find MasterCobia's comment on Papyrus Tweaks.

 

Yes, I'm using the SKSE mempatch.  That was one of my earliest tweaks.  I had ENBoost going for a while but Sacremas recommended I ditch it in favor of my RealVision ENB 265.

 

UGridstoLoad is still 5.  Way back when, I tried to change it and that totally borked my current game at the time.   I'm currently also running "Stable uGridstoLoad" mod.

 

I consider my machine a mid-level one (8GB RAM, 4GB Vid card, 3Ghz duo-core CPU) so I went lightly with the high texture stuff.  I was running Tamriel reloaded HD and Tamriel REloaded Grass for weeks before experiencing the slowdown.  Same with Enhanced Lights and FX.

 

Thanks for the recommendations on Cell Stabilizer and Safety Load.  I'm off right now to check those out.  It may just be that your point about a script-heavy setup is the sticking point.  I'm just not sure what mods I'd be willing to part with. 

[funnymotion]

 

Thanks for the recommendations on Cell Stabilizer and Safety Load.  I'm off right now to check those out.  It may just be that your point about a script-heavy setup is the sticking point.  I'm just not sure what mods I'd be willing to part with. 

 

 

Yeah, I have two Installations of Skyrim. One is for Sex and Smut Skyrim Modding and the other for my Lore Friendly and Immersive Roleplaying needs. I knew I couldn't have both in the same experience because of compatibility and stability issues so I split em up. The thing with Sex Mods is that a lot of em use other Sex Mods Scripts as a foundation. I don't think I need to explain how and why this create's problems but rest assured that it does.

 

The last thing I can tell ya is to play with those Papyrus tweaks above in the Link. You seem to really know your stuff so there isn't really anymore help I can give ya.

[halieslade]

Update: It would appear that Cell Stabilizer has been taken down.  It's not on Nexus any longer, and the discussions I found on it seemed to point back to StableUGridstoLoad, which I already have.  I didn't check Steam as I've made a point of never using Steam Workshop mods -- unnecessary steps if I decide to remove them, and I can add the .esp to my /data folder after I unsubscribe.  So, again, unnecessary.

 

I did find Safety Load and added it.  My game immediately crashed, but I found 102 orphan scripts that SaveCLeaner hadn't seen before.  Cleaned those up, ran WryeBash and LOOT again, and the game is working.  Hard to tell if there's any difference in load times, yet, but it felt pretty solid.

 

I have those papyrus tweaks but you make a good point - my game setup has changed enough over the last months that it wouldn't hurt to go back and review them again.

 

Thanks again!