Swiggity1234 Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Hi, like the title says does my game crash everytime I load the game. I have tried with savefiles without mods and with mods. The strange thing is tho, that when I start a new game, it works perfectly fine. I can enter and exit buildings and the loading screens won't crash. But when I exit Skyrim, restart it, and load a save file it instantly crashes :/ I use mod manager, let it set the load order and I cleaned all the necessary files with TES5 Edit. I also use Safety Load. I also use an ENB Any Idea how this is fixable? This is what LOOT gives me (I tried to clean the EnhancedLightsandFX .esp, but It wont work. But it is also not the cause for the crash, as I always had that warning, even before the crashes occured.): Skrim.esmCRC: C665FD56 Update.esmCRC: 1FDAB215 Add: C.Location, Delev, Invent, Relev Unofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 194004C7 Version: 2.0.8a Add: C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, Stats Note: It is highly recommended that you also use the Unofficial Dawnguard Patch. Note: It is highly recommended that you also use the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch. Note: It is highly recommended that you also use the Unofficial Dragonborn Patch. Dawnguard.esmCRC: 7A481404 Add: C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound HearthFires.esmCRC: F4DDC851 Add: C.Location, Graphics, Invent Dragonborn.esmCRC: A46CA360 Add: C.Location, Graphics, Invent, Names ApachiiHair.esmCRC: 783F7167 Version: 1.4 AzarHair.esmCRC: E7567F7B ClimatesOfTamriel.esmCRC: 918881A7 Version: 3.1 FoxHome_X.esmCRC: 6A129E7D CreatureFramework.esmCRC: C8D19204 Version: 1.0.0 paradise_halls.esmCRC: E915D1AB SexLab.esmCRC: 93A7E8FE Version: 1.59b Devious Devices - Assets.esmCRC: FD610BFF Version: 2.8.3 SexLabAroused.esmCRC: B6F3D900 ZaZAnimationPack.esmCRC: 9B5CB3A6 Devious Devices - Integration.esmCRC: DD6F59B8 daymoyl.esmCRC: DAE8E02F Devious Devices - Expansion.esmCRC: C5EA736A HighResTexturePack01.espCRC: D596F02A HighResTexturePack02.espCRC: D596F02A HighResTexturePack03.espCRC: D596F02A AMatterOfTime.espCRC: 512CD10C Version: 2.00 Brawl Bugs CE.espCRC: D284ACF Auto Unequip Ammo.espCRC: 4B399546 7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer.espCRC: 48727558 Version: 2.5 7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer - Dragonborn.espCRC: 66B4E599 Version: 2.5 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.espCRC: 819B9DE8 Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.espCRC: CE26F897 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.espCRC: B2AF9437 Version: 205.25. Apropos.espCRC: 2BA16F14 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espCRC: 9229A0B4 EnhancedLightsandFX.espCRC: 2F172642 Warning: Contains 12 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit. ELFX - Exteriors.espCRC: C4817E64 CoT-WeatherPatch.espCRC: F7D0C971 RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 8A8A009F Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. RagnarSword.espCRC: 5D964229 SexLab Aroused Creatures.espCRC: D2C8F0FB BBP_ArmorPack2.espCRC: 176732BB Note: Requires: CHSBHC - BBP - Nude and Jiggly Mod Extremegrass.espCRC: B56D61A6 RealisticWaterTwo.espCRC: 3369B96E Version: 1.11 ELFXEnhancer.espCRC: 31D9D865 Devious Deviants.espCRC: 5018DA5E FaalSizaan.espCRC: 50A4F17 Version: 1.0 Facelight.espCRC: 322DCCD9 fox36 Armor.espCRC: 2D34616D HelmetToggle2.02b.espCRC: 2ED2B609 BBP_ArmorPack.espCRC: 3DA8A255 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.espCRC: 6F9D1F37 7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer - Dawnguard.espCRC: 92A53369 Version: 2.5 SlaveTats.espCRC: A6595946 UIExtensions.espCRC: B862AA8E MoreNastyCritters.espCRC: A4251A20 smfsneak attack.espCRC: 34F65DD1 LookCloser.espCRC: 1A3EFCEB SexLab Dangerously Nude.espCRC: E2DD0882 paradise_halls_farengars_study.espCRC: 5C6CC2E4 lord of the rings the hobbit - misty mountains.espCRC: 83E18690 Better Dynamic Snow.espCRC: 1A5860EB Version: 2.4 Smoking Torches.espCRC: E3B82F91 Version: 1.31 Helsmyrr.espCRC: B9BF0C74 Osare HotPants.espCRC: 39D3AA23 VikingArmor.espCRC: 64BCDD1 Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.espCRC: C3DA6E70 ProperWeaponScale.espCRC: 51FC22F6 RaiderHelmet.espCRC: 36CB0D1B RaceMenu.espCRC: 2765B7D0 DAO Morrigan's Robes.espCRC: 58F7D571 RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.espCRC: 4A751DD1 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.espCRC: B74B21DA Add: Delev, Relev RND_USKP-Patch.espCRC: FE81BA78 Add: Relev SC07SexLabRandomAttack.espCRC: DF5FD32 SexLabStatsManipulator.espCRC: F50FBDAD SFO - Expanded Diversity.espCRC: 1D0F678E Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Captured Dreams.espCRC: D8F1C54C Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espCRC: 2A9F7DED Version: 7.1 Add: Delev, Relev SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.espCRC: E1CE6449 Anal Torch.espCRC: 1DA2BD4C SexLabMatchMaker.espCRC: E35C9647 Version: 7 SexLabNudeCreatures.espCRC: 459F3CED SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.espCRC: 729356A2 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.espCRC: ED2F9C57 SkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7 Version: 4.1 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.espCRC: 1FFE7B07 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 674C05BC dD-Reduced Splatter Size.espCRC: 8840345E dD-Reduced Wound Size.espCRC: 7DC9E4B1 Smoking Candles.espCRC: EF3260F6 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.espCRC: 8E73F4A8 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.espCRC: 5DCB676 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espCRC: 3F40CC78 Version: 1.8 Vivid Landscapes.espCRC: D596F02A WarpNudeRings.espCRC: 6E4C429C Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.espCRC: 6023FA83 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espCRC: FB51E4FC msAMV - PunisherArmor.espCRC: 58E8A29A paradise_halls_SLExtension.espCRC: D4E3B1F6 smfArena1.8.espCRC: A6604A6F HentaiCreatures.espCRC: 282DA865 wolfclub.espCRC: 8B515E05 MVABasic.espCRC: 7E1CE489 Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.espCRC: 3F26A0BD Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.espCRC: D27EB6E9 Viking Weaponry.espCRC: E413A6 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espCRC: D53F3ABC RND_Dawnguard-Patch.espCRC: A554A56D UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espCRC: 4CEB4A5B Version: 1.2i Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page. AddItemMenu.espCRC: 20116176 Better Follower Improvements.espCRC: C9D965AA Mannequin.espCRC: F260F0E9 Populated Forts Towers Places.espCRC: 888B6EE5 SMIM-Merged-All.espCRC: 46D0D2C0 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espCRC: 3B4FFDF9 Populated Lands Roads Paths.espCRC: E40B22E6 Populated Cities Towns Villages.espCRC: 849BCB1F Avelyn Follower.espCRC: 973A7DCC Populated Skyrim Civil War.espCRC: 705AE70A RND_HearthFires-Patch.espCRC: E3E62E4 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.espCRC: 856590D2 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.espCRC: 72A698CB SexLab_Dialogues.espCRC: A3BF0046 paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.espCRC: 7770F093 SexLabDefeat.espCRC: 31F322CC Hunterborn.espCRC: 20309CC5 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.espCRC: 7A36D404 LIAT - Sounds.espCRC: 6F305D Immersive Speechcraft.espCRC: 22471C88 LIAT - NPCs.espCRC: B0C82860 AK- Alternate Actors.espCRC: 7D4298F5 Version: 1.2 FNISspells.espCRC: 4F3339DE R18Pn - Heilige Mutter Armor.espCRC: B417073F zzjayHentaisConversions.espCRC: 41194107 Stynja.espCRC: C0B21B8 SexLabDangerousNights.espCRC: D519A137 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espCRC: E4D4E092 Horses for followers.espCRC: 564D605D NorseMaille.espCRC: 6288C339 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.espCRC: 2A814629 ShellBondage - Bombshell.espCRC: F5160247 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.espCRC: D34DD9EC sextoys-calyps-2.espCRC: F9D67782 CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.espCRC: 9752BE42 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.espCRC: 7995206D Version: 2.5.5 Add: C.Location
guyver Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 do a fresh start, let all the mods load up. then save and load the save you want to continue. everytime you open up the game, reload the save you made at the beginning and then load the real save.
Swiggity1234 Posted April 26, 2015 Author Posted April 26, 2015 try to remove Alternate Start Tried it, didn't work :/ do a fresh start, let all the mods load up. then save and load the save you want to continue. everytime you open up the game, reload the save you made at the beginning and then load the real save. Tried that, too doesn't work. Keeps crashing after loading
Abhw Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 I had the same problem and found a workaround that might also work for you. In the main menu, open the console, then type "coc ctest". You'll be taken to a test cell. Once the game has finished loading, save the game. That savegame should load without crashing. Load it, then load your normal save. If everything went well, it shouldn't crash and you'll be able to continue the game. Of course this doesn't fix the underlying problem that causes the game to crash in the first place, but at least you can continue the game. I haven't noticed any instabilities with this, my game started crashing after about one hour and using this workaround, I now have more than 150 hours logged without any further problems.
Swiggity1234 Posted April 26, 2015 Author Posted April 26, 2015 I had the same problem and found a workaround that might also work for you. In the main menu, open the console, then type "coc ctest". You'll be taken to a test cell. Once the game has finished loading, save the game. That savegame should load without crashing. Load it, then load your normal save. If everything went well, it shouldn't crash and you'll be able to continue the game. Of course this doesn't fix the underlying problem that causes the game to crash in the first place, but at least you can continue the game. I haven't noticed any instabilities with this, my game started crashing after about one hour and using this workaround, I now have more than 150 hours logged without any further problems. Crashes when I do that.... Guess I have to reinstall everything... God this will be a pain in the ass
Dubhorizon Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Crashing on load, but not in a new game is absolutely normal when you have a lot of mods, that have a lot of scripts firing up simultaneously. It is normal and as far as I know, cannot be avoided. Either you start and new game and load from in-game, use coc qasmoke in main menu and then load, or remove a couple of script heavy mods.
laz0r Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 From what I've seen this can be caused be a few reasons: 1) Too little VRAM, basically if you have a lot of texture mods installed and you have 2gb of VRAM or less, your game will become unstable very fast. 2) You have a body mesh with an incompatible skeleton. 3) Your CPU is too shit to run all the scripts you have installed from mods without exploding. 4) Your load order is messed up (run LOOT). 5) You have an outdated mod installed and it fucks with your scripts and saves. 6) You have a mod conflict Any of these will 100% make your game virtually unplayable. The good news is that 2,4,5,6 are very easy to fix, but if you have a hardware limitation you're pretty much fucked unless you uninstall some texture mods and remove some heavily scripted mods. Mods that consistently run script checks will definitely make your save game break quicker, so I'd recommend avoiding them at all costs unless you need it for immersion. You can check your papyrus to see if there is a lot of spam from one mod in particular, and if there is, you're better off removing it.
Swiggity1234 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 From what I've seen this can be caused be a few reasons: 1) Too little VRAM, basically if you have a lot of texture mods installed and you have 2gb of VRAM or less, your game will become unstable very fast. 2) You have a body mesh with an incompatible skeleton. 3) Your CPU is too shit to run all the scripts you have installed from mods without exploding. 4) Your load order is messed up (run LOOT). 5) You have an outdated mod installed and it fucks with your scripts and saves. 6) You have a mod conflict Any of these will 100% make your game virtually unplayable. The good news is that 2,4,5,6 are very easy to fix, but if you have a hardware limitation you're pretty much fucked unless you uninstall some texture mods and remove some heavily scripted mods. Mods that consistently run script checks will definitely make your save game break quicker, so I'd recommend avoiding them at all costs unless you need it for immersion. You can check your papyrus to see if there is a lot of spam from one mod in particular, and if there is, you're better off removing it. I have 16GB RAM GTX 970 i7 4790k so it is not my system^^ I already ran LOOT. Anyways, I reinstalled, now it works.
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