Children Overhauls causing FPS drop?

[Spyder Arachnid]

So this is a new odd issue I'm having. It appears that any child overhaul I use cause a massive FPS drop.

 

I noticed this when I was in Honorhall Orphanage and Proudspire Manor (my home). I have already adopted Sofie from Windhelm and Lucia from Whiterun, and was about to adopt Samuel from the Orphanage.

 

But all the sudden while standing in the Orphanage, my framerate dropped tremendously. Like almost to a halt. Had the same thing happen while at my house, with the two kids I adopted there as well.

 

 

Now I was using SkyKids, always have for the longest time. Never had this issue before ever. So I thought it might of been the updated SKSE script, so I uninstalled it completely and ran the script cleaner to clean it out after making a clean save without it.

 

Vanilla kids now, and no frame rate drop at all. Everything is working just fine.

 

So I thought, we'll, I hate the vanilla children so let's try something different then. So I went and picked up RS Children. Installed it fine, no issues, started up my game, and there it was again. Huge frame rate drop. Same as before when using SkyKids.

 

 

So it definitely wasn't SkyKids causing it, yet it seems any mod I use to overhaul the children cause my frame rate to drop to a crawl. When using vanilla children everything is fine, no drop. But once I use any overhaul, frame rate hit.

 

This is rather odd, and weird, as I am unsure what could be causing it. I have no other mods at all that edit the children, so not sure why this is happening. Any help would be appreciated though.

 

Here's my current load order, after I installed RS Children. The only new mod I have added is Wet and Cold v2.0. Otherwise, everything else has been the same since I first installed Skyrim.

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
OblivionHairPackAIO.esm
Obl-VB hair.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
RelightingSkyrim-NoScripts.esp
RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp
RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp
RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp
ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - for Pure Weather.esp
Personalized Music.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
NusbieVoices.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
SexLabSquirt.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
sr_FillHerUp.esp
Holidays.esp
WetandCold.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
AddItemMenu.esp
towConversation.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SkyUI.esp
BarbarianExplorer.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Dread Crossbow.esp
Duster.esp
GDZZJJDH.esp
Gwelda Armor Pack.esp
heimu0.esp
kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp
LDWs Crimson Closet.esp
MashupUNP.esp
NiaOutfit - UNPB BBP.esp
Nicoroshi Collection.esp
SexyEveningDress.esp
SinbloodLethalMajesty.esp
SinbloodVelvetRose.esp
UNPB Armor Replacer.esp
BHTNF_Eli.esp
DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
hjerimtnf.esp
HSTNF.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Proudspire Manor Refurbished.esp
Proudspire Manor Refurbished - Multiple Adoptions Support.esp
SilianManor.esp
Skyrim Radioactive.esp
VHTNF.esp
armored-horses.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Skysan_Icicle.esp
Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
ETaC - Complete Holidays Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp
Pureweather.esp
Vividian - Pure Weather Patch.esp
Vividian - Extended Weathers - Pure weathers.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp
Pinup Poser.esp
Halo's Poser.esp
Brows.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
FreckleMania.esp
UNO - NPC Overhaul.esp
UNO - Dawnguard FIXED.esp
UNO - Dragonborn.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Brothers.esp
RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
Serana.esp
Toccata as Elisif.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Purewaters.esp
PWwaterfall.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
 

 

 

[Groovtama]

Children Overhauls are using seperate skeletons, these skeleton can have breast bones, which means HDT PE will try to attach the default xml file to it, if you have butt, belly or schlong stuff in it HDT PE but the skeleton of the children does not have the bones for the features of your default xml, HDT PE will constantly log errors, it will write constantly to your Harddrive <- that will make for a good how fast can skyrim write to your hdd benchmark.

 

Children skeletons from other than vanilla are generally not replaced by XPMSE.

Thus mods such as this http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/62830/?exist

SkyKids has also a version for the latest XPMSE that should be in the next version.

 

RSChildren skeleton by default has breast and butt bones for example, but no belly, means belly collision in the default xml = low fps when standing near an Actor with an RSChildren race which is using the RSChildren skeleton.

[Spyder Arachnid]

Ah makes sense then. I've got all sorts of fancy stuff going on with the skeleton for my adults, but SkyKids used the basic skeleton it came with. Not trying to give SkyKids schlongs or belly nodes or HDT or any of that stuff, but that's what my adults currently use, so what would I need then to stop that fps drop without having them get the adult stuff?

 

I tried the one that you had for the SkyKids though, but it made them all stretched and weird looking.

[Dinosaurus]

i thought this had something weird to do with HDT and the solution was using a different skeleton with your child mods?

Hmm! i saw someone talk about it in the RCOTS thread, i'll try to find the solution!

 

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Oh that'll teach me to start typing while i'm on the phone... not refresh the page and submit my post. i am way late to the game >.< Sorry!

[Spyder Arachnid]

No worries, I've done that before myself.

 

 

Just need to find a compatible skeleton for SkyKids that supports the same things as the adults, but doesn't actually use it (I guess?). At least, that's kind of what I got out of it lol. or just wait till the new XPMSE comes with the support for it in the newer version (currently I'm using 2.6).